M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[xorxes]

I think it's highly unlikely that rivera would have targeted Sarah at any point, so Tem's defense of rivera doesn't mean anything.

[BunnyGo]

Question:

If I were a smart lead inquisitor, I’d be trying to kill people who are likely to be saved. This is Xorxes. And as Xorxes was in jail, AND we suspect we were short a kill N2, then is Xorxes turned too?

I’m on phone, so can’t look up but who else was saved on N2? Do we know? Have they found Christ?

[BunnyGo]

I think it's highly unlikely that rivera would have targeted Sarah at any point, so Tem's defense of rivera doesn't mean anything.

Correct. Unless he’s referring to a night action?

[foodcoats]

Question:

If I were a smart lead inquisitor, I’d be trying to kill people who are likely to be saved. This is Xorxes. And as Xorxes was in jail, AND we suspect we were short a kill N2, then is Xorxes turned too?

I’m on phone, so can’t look up but who else was saved on N2? Do we know? Have they found Christ?

It cannot be xorxes. xorxes caught rdr.

[BunnyGo]

Question:

If I were a smart lead inquisitor, I’d be trying to kill people who are likely to be saved. This is Xorxes. And as Xorxes was in jail, AND we suspect we were short a kill N2, then is Xorxes turned too?

I’m on phone, so can’t look up but who else was saved on N2? Do we know? Have they found Christ?

It cannot be xorxes. xorxes caught rdr.

Hmm. Probably true.

[Chaqa]

Neph, we kinda really need to know what you're role is classified as

[BunnyGo]

Neph, we kinda really need to know what you're role is classified as

People should ask some more.

[damo666]

Question:

If I were a smart lead inquisitor, I’d be trying to kill people who are likely to be saved. This is Xorxes. And as Xorxes was in jail, AND we suspect we were short a kill N2, then is Xorxes turned too?

I’m on phone, so can’t look up but who else was saved on N2? Do we know? Have they found Christ?

It cannot be xorxes. xorxes caught rdr.

Hmm. Probably true.

rofl

[damo666]

@Neph

Is Jailor classified as a roleblocking type role?

Asking for a friend of a friend

[Nephthys]

Neph, we kinda really need to know what you're role is classified as

Sorry still like 15 pages behind, am a roleblock

[xorxes]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

[damo666]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

[Chaqa]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Food confirmed he is a roleblocker way back when

[Jamiet99uk]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

No, Lightning Rod isn't a form of roleblocker, because the actions still take place, it just redirects them (to itself) - in the same way that a Bus Driver isn't a roleblocker.

[Jamiet99uk]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Food confirmed he is a roleblocker way back when

Well I'm not sure I buy that.

[Chaqa]

So emc could've picked up Tracker after all.

And it might be the later voters and the vanity voters who are the scum.

Does your role description say that your power is performed first, and therefore can't be roleblocked?

Yeah, it happens before any other roleblocking abilities.

Why would that matter? It seems to me you suggested earlier that this setup isn't balanced by the roles. So what does it matter to you how many X types and Y types there are? What could you learn from that, since you don't think the game is rationally structured?

I think there can't be two town roleblockers. If you are a roleblocker, any other roleblocker would have to be scum. And you would be town because town roleblocker has priority. Your wording suggests you are classified as a roleblocker. Is that correct?

It is considered a roleblock ability and resolves before any other roleblock ability.

I will note his follow-up didn't come until Day 3, so he could be misleading us on that one.

[xorxes]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Yes, LR is a roleblocker and the action that saved the original target is the roleblocking action (it affected rivera). So I think we're fine there.

But I'm not sure if the *action* that saved LR was a roleblocking action, even if Neph has a roleblocking type ability. He has a protective ability as well, which is the one that saved foodcoats. It's quite confusing.

The number of kills tonight should be informative anyway.

[damo666]

Point is do we need to worry about rdr's original target? I suspect not but we should keep it in the back of our minds.

[xorxes]

Does your role description say that your power is performed first, and therefore can't be roleblocked?

Yeah, it happens before any other roleblocking abilities.

I think there can't be two town roleblockers. If you are a roleblocker, any other roleblocker would have to be scum. And you would be town because town roleblocker has priority. Your wording suggests you are classified as a roleblocker. Is that correct?

It is considered a roleblock ability and resolves before any other roleblock ability.

I will note his follow-up didn't come until Day 3, so he could be misleading us on that one.

That's true. I asked him to clarify D1, but he never responded until I asked again on D3.

[damo666]

So technically foodcoats was saved by a roleblocker, but not strictly because of the roleblocking action...

Assuming rivera didn't holster, but I can't see any reason why he would do that.

So food is OK but what about rdr's original target?

Is LR a roleblocker? If so that little problem also goes away.

Yes, LR is a roleblocker and the action that saved the original target is the roleblocking action (it affected rivera). So I think we're fine there.

But I'm not sure if the *action* that saved LR was a roleblocking action, even if Neph has a roleblocking type ability. He has a protective ability as well, which is the one that saved foodcoats. It's quite confusing.

The number of kills tonight should be informative anyway.

OK so according to this the original target is OK but there's a doubt against food.