M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

I had some thoughts about Day 2.

It's now known it was TvT. EMC vs. Bismarck. Scum didn't care who was lynched, theoretically. Bismarck claims JOAT on page 171, just after Jamie votes EMC making it 9-7 Bismarck. Bismarck votes for EMC to make it 9-8.

Around this time, Damo had called out Vecna for not voting.

Damo votes:

##vote emc

what now Vecna?

Was Damo signalling to scum-teammate Vecna here to make a call about which of EMC and Bismarck they'd rather lynch?

[Chaqa]

More to come on day 1-3 analysis as I have breaks in work.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don’t understand your fascination with trying to avoid lynching known scum.

Who is "known scum" please, and on what basis?

Chaq has claimed to believe xorxes. In which case rdr is known. But we have a known scum between xorxes and Rdr. Squigs will be there. But we get more definite intel by figuring this out first. I for one trust xorxes.

Why? You believe Xorxes because Chaqa does?

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa, thanks for your trust.

I hope this watch you gave me is not some kind of ticking bomb, given how emc died last night. I'm catching up on that QT thread now, a lot of Chipotle to read there.

Wait...he gave you a watch? Is he a sex cultist/arsonist?! Did he kill EMC and scum kill Wilson? Jamie, is the watch some ticking bomb?

In flavor, I give people watch radios.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can we all just direct our attention to the fact that Foodcoats slipped that he knows all the Mafia NKs have got through to, and killed, the indended targets?

[Chaqa]

Who is "known scum" please, and on what basis?

Chaq has claimed to believe xorxes. In which case rdr is known. But we have a known scum between xorxes and Rdr. Squigs will be there. But we get more definite intel by figuring this out first. I for one trust xorxes.

Why? You believe Xorxes because Chaqa does?

I didn't say I believe xorxes? I'm waiting for more information before deciding.

[Vecna]

like maybe some magical things happened that brainbomb did that im unaware of, but else this feels like a strong case of people just using T1 logic to try and read a multi-dimensional wizard level player.

Brainbomb as scum is the craziest mafia player you will have ever encountered. You cannot read him using conventional means. You have to look at his plan. Deduce why he did things. Find out his gimmick and what makes him tick and what hes trying to achieve this game. Find out where he suddenly got an impulse to try something new and exciting.

Ive outlined all these things. But people are unwilling to see it for what it very well could be.

Why would scum RHK want to cc brainbomb? Answer me this

Why would brainbomb claim a docsave on summit riiiight at the moment summit is about to claim a cop guilty on the person that is cc'ing brainbomb?

Can you guys seriously not see the implications here? After brainbomb has been softing all game a role that can view the RESULTS OF NIGHT ACTIONS from people?

Softing a role like that as town doctor? A role that can be a backup to any town role?

If there is a town cop, the role brainbomb was softing could GET THE COP RESULT even if the cop was outed and about to die. The same for the tracker. The same for the watcher. This role is infinately more powerful than a doctor. Its stronger than a universal backup.

Yet brainbomb was softing that while he's claiming to be a doctor. Those softs would ATTRACT nightkills like crazy.

Why would scum soft their role?

because you want to be town read based on the role youre claiming and make it believable?

you find it more reasonable of an explenation that he was softibg an even stronger role to hide as a doctor? that he wqs so happy to let everyone know he was visiting people while hes a doc?

[Chaqa]

Can we all just direct our attention to the fact that Foodcoats slipped that he knows all the Mafia NKs have got through to, and killed, the indended targets?

Eh, I don't think this makes sense?

We know for a fact N1 mafia NK did fail. We had two kills N2, two kills N3.

Assumption is mafia is responsible for one of those on either side, as how couldn't they be?

[Vecna]

im just going to debate with people why theyre townreading brainbomb.

What about the way he has played, claimed, survived and not done anything useful with his role whatsoever makes people believe him?

chaqa, you can stay out of it, or you can puke, I dont really care

brainbomb spoke of patching up someone on D1.

RHK's doctor role describes him as patching people up.

To me that gives credibility to brain's doctor claim. It doesn't mean town doctor, but a second mafia doctor is hard to believe. 3P doctor is a possibility, but less likely than town doctor.

His somewhat erratic, sometimes absent, sometimes binge isoing, play is perfectly consistent with his town play, especially of late (very similar to last game).

I still don't understand how you get to Interceptor from his dream and omnipotent quotes. Or how it explains anything he did.

or you know, he was talking to RHK in their scumchat.

brain claims its a different variation of doc didnt he? saving the same person multiple days in a row? why would different variations have the same flavour?

[Vecna]

did rhks role allow saving the same person multiple days in a row?

[Vecna]

@Chaqa, thanks for your trust.

I hope this watch you gave me is not some kind of ticking bomb, given how emc died last night. I'm catching up on that QT thread now, a lot of Chipotle to read there.

the fuck? you got a watch when joining?

wasnt flash in there? both emc and flash got exploded by a watch

[Chaqa]

Eh, that Damo vote/post is more likely town Damo trying to keep from lynching the JOAT, actually.

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa, thanks for your trust.

I hope this watch you gave me is not some kind of ticking bomb, given how emc died last night. I'm catching up on that QT thread now, a lot of Chipotle to read there.

the fuck? you got a watch when joining?

wasnt flash in there? both emc and flash got exploded by a watch

The watch thing was known. I used radio watches to crumb EMC joining the QT ages ago.

[BunnyGo]

Temasek is claiming they wrote that said, "Knowing my alignment, I think rdr is town based on the way rdr treated me/Sarah."

This literally makes no sense at all.

##VOTE Temasek

Nah. This could be incomprehensible!Tem. Somehow he manages to get lynched early every game for weird confusing stuff.

[foodcoats]

No NKs have failed!

Excuse me?

How could you possibly know this?

Is this a scumslip?

I don't know it, but I can infer it pretty easily from the number of deaths. But, actually, I think at least one SK or scum NK did fail, as I believe strongly - based on the number of protectives - there is an SK.

You also clipped my quote and avoided my question to you to explain your rather wild reasoning that xorxes was fishing intentionally for specifically the bulletproof role. So, sure, maybe one of their NKs was blocked, but would that naturally lead them to believe there's a bulletproof they should fish for?

[BunnyGo]

Bad wording on my part. But xorx has an interesting reaction, I take my vote off him for now. ##unvote

Speaking of role, I have barely any intel given that Sarah hasn't done much and I misread role PM at start which led to an action that gave little information. In a while I'll probs be able to actually do something.

Did Sarah execute her actions?

[foodcoats]

If Rivera flips Bulletproof, we lynch xorxes immediately. Solved.

It's not that simple. What if rdr was given an item and xorxes saw that? And rdr doesn't want to claim the item?

If there's an Item Smith out there I think either you, me, EMC, Summit, or brain would have gotten one by now.

That... is a fair point. I think we can be sure you, me and emc have not received an item, but there's no reason not to leave it open to possibility someone else may have.

But... I feel like this is probably correct enough that it is unlikely rdr received an item last night. Point taken.

[foodcoats]

##VOTE FOODCOATS

Gotcha.

GOT ME.

[foodcoats]

Attention:

Foodcoats has certainty of the targets and outcomes of the Mafia NK attempts thus far in the game.

How could he possess this information as town?

He could not.

Don't be silly Jamie.

So, why are you so certain xorxes was fishing for bulletproof?

[BunnyGo]

Who is "known scum" please, and on what basis?

Chaq has claimed to believe xorxes. In which case rdr is known. But we have a known scum between xorxes and Rdr. Squigs will be there. But we get more definite intel by figuring this out first. I for one trust xorxes.

Why? You believe Xorxes because Chaqa does?

No. I believe xorxes because none of his posts read like scum!xorxes. He hates being scum and doesn’t try. He loves being town and having a puzzled. He loves mechanics. He loves reading people and solving things. And he loves getting a flip of scum. This is town!xorxes.