M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[damo666]

SPREADSHEETS ENSURE VICTORY
HOORAY FOR TOWNSPERSON DAMION

Damian not Damion nor Damon nor Damien.

Damo perfectly acceptable.

Okay, Damo. Tell me about "guarantees", if you please?

Assumed you were referring to 'swings'.

Guarantee is stronger than confirm. That's all. Nothing weird. No code.

[damo666]

maybe neph cant be scum here. not sure

Neph ain't scum. Why would he draw attention by saying "why is nobody considering I'm scum jailor?" Neph ain't that arrogant or ballsy (you are lol).

[damo666]

Can anybody think what possible evidence Tem could have regarding the rdr v Xorxes affair?

I'm leaning towards scumTem trying to save scumrdr .

[damo666]

##vote rdr

[Jamiet99uk]

Damian not Damion nor Damon nor Damien.

Damo perfectly acceptable.

Okay, Damo. Tell me about "guarantees", if you please?

Assumed you were referring to 'swings'.

Guarantee is stronger than confirm. That's all. Nothing weird. No code.

I didn't say anything about "swings" and I'm not sure what you mean?

[Jamiet99uk]

Can anybody think what possible evidence Tem could have regarding the rdr v Xorxes affair?

I'm leaning towards scumTem trying to save scumrdr .

The most obvious possible "evidence" of a bulletproof is trying to kill them, and failing.

[Vecna]

What forced Rdrivera to just out his role like that?

[BunnyGo]

That was a great catchup read. summit and brain really gave me some stuff to think about, and look back at early game. I have nothing more to add to their content.

Damo asked about what TemaSarah could have about rdr. Here are the options I see:

1) If rdr and TemaSarah are both scum, the play makes sense. rdr would absolutely bus Sarah, and Tema would probably make some play to save rdr.

2) The flavor text from EOD3 strongly suggest that "Tom Hanks" and "Wilson" lived and died together. Or something like that. It's different from the previous night with 2 deaths. Maybe TemaSarah is tied to rdr?

3) Temasek didn't say his role tied him to rdr, but that "interactions" did? I don't see Sarah interacting with rdr in the bot except to complain when he said that he'd shoot her. Maybe night-time interactions? Umm...AFAIK there are an infinite number of possibilities there, but I have trouble coming up with one that would indicate rdr is town AND not be sure enough about it to say something definite.

[BunnyGo]

Can anybody think what possible evidence Tem could have regarding the rdr v Xorxes affair?

I'm leaning towards scumTem trying to save scumrdr .

The most obvious possible "evidence" of a bulletproof is trying to kill them, and failing.

I can't believe I didn't think of that option mechanically. But that's sooooo fu*#ing weird for Temasek to say. Is there a towny way that TemaSarah would have tried to kill rdr and none of us know?

[BunnyGo]

What forced Rdrivera to just out his role like that?

Xorxes said he had intel that depending on rdr's claim would finger him as scum or not. When rdr claimed and then clarified under request that he also had a unicorn, xorxes then said he could "guarantee" that rdr is scum.

[BunnyGo]

What forced Rdrivera to just out his role like that?

Xorxes said he had intel that depending on rdr's claim would finger him as scum or not. When rdr claimed and then clarified under request that he also had a unicorn, xorxes then said he could "guarantee" that rdr is scum.

For Vecna:

Is your vote based on information you received last night?

That´s something I want to hear. I am pretty sure he can´t have any information that lead to voting me.
So, I am waiting....

Would you be willing to claim your role? It might very well be that my information is compatible with you being town depending on your role, but otherwise it's much more likely that you're scum.

Xorx are you a gun cop or something

I don't want to reveal exactly what my ability is, but I can guarantee that the result I got means rivera is scum given his claim.

[rdrivera2005]

What forced Rdrivera to just out his role like that?

Xorxes said he had intel that depending on rdr's claim would finger him as scum or not. When rdr claimed and then clarified under request that he also had a unicorn, xorxes then said he could "guarantee" that rdr is scum.

The unicorn was a joke, just to make it clear as he keeps pushing me to claim something else.

@Summit - That comment to Nepthys was my "subtle" way to claim my role. If you look, no one have talked about Buletproof before.
It also one of the reasons I suspected so much Vecna after his claim, I find hard to believe town has two roles that can't be killed. In my case, I clarified with GM that I can't be shoot either (at least at first time), just lynched.

[Vecna]

What forced Rdrivera to just out his role like that?

Xorxes said he had intel that depending on rdr's claim would finger him as scum or not. When rdr claimed and then clarified under request that he also had a unicorn, xorxes then said he could "guarantee" that rdr is scum.

Hmm thats pretty weird. Why fakeclaim unless you know you were probably caught doing the NK. Which was a weird type of double-kill in itself

[Vecna]

im just going to debate with people why theyre townreading brainbomb.

What about the way he has played, claimed, survived and not done anything useful with his role whatsoever makes people believe him?

chaqa, you can stay out of it, or you can puke, I dont really care

[BunnyGo]

What forced Rdrivera to just out his role like that?

Xorxes said he had intel that depending on rdr's claim would finger him as scum or not. When rdr claimed and then clarified under request that he also had a unicorn, xorxes then said he could "guarantee" that rdr is scum.

The unicorn was a joke, just to make it clear as he keeps pushing me to claim something else.

@Summit - That comment to Nepthys was my "subtle" way to claim my role. If you look, no one have talked about Buletproof before.
It also one of the reasons I suspected so much Vecna after his claim, I find hard to believe town has two roles that can't be killed. In my case, I clarified with GM that I can't be shoot either (at least at first time), just lynched.

I'm aware the unicorn was a joke. My daughter loves unicorns so I've been trained to fixate on them.

That is an interesting point about 2 roles that can't be shot if you and vecna are both truthtelling townies.

[Vecna]

like maybe some magical things happened that brainbomb did that im unaware of, but else this feels like a strong case of people just using T1 logic to try and read a multi-dimensional wizard level player.

Brainbomb as scum is the craziest mafia player you will have ever encountered. You cannot read him using conventional means. You have to look at his plan. Deduce why he did things. Find out his gimmick and what makes him tick and what hes trying to achieve this game. Find out where he suddenly got an impulse to try something new and exciting.

Ive outlined all these things. But people are unwilling to see it for what it very well could be.

Why would scum RHK want to cc brainbomb? Answer me this

Why would brainbomb claim a docsave on summit riiiight at the moment summit is about to claim a cop guilty on the person that is cc'ing brainbomb?

Can you guys seriously not see the implications here? After brainbomb has been softing all game a role that can view the RESULTS OF NIGHT ACTIONS from people?

Softing a role like that as town doctor? A role that can be a backup to any town role?

If there is a town cop, the role brainbomb was softing could GET THE COP RESULT even if the cop was outed and about to die. The same for the tracker. The same for the watcher. This role is infinately more powerful than a doctor. Its stronger than a universal backup.

Yet brainbomb was softing that while he's claiming to be a doctor. Those softs would ATTRACT nightkills like crazy.

[Chaqa]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

[Jamiet99uk]

im just going to debate with people why theyre townreading brainbomb.

What about the way he has played, claimed, survived and not done anything useful with his role whatsoever makes people believe him?

chaqa, you can stay out of it, or you can puke, I dont really care

Please try to be more polite.

If I can do it, you can too.

[Jamiet99uk]

FYI I added xorxes to the QT.

I don’t think it was a good move in retrospect but meh. If it makes him inform me and Jamie of his role it’s worth.

I think we should postpone the xorxes vs. Rivera and Vecna vs. brain a day and lynch Squigs.

Why did you add Xorxes?

Why are you so sure Neph is now town?

Why Squigs?

Why why why all of these things?

[Vecna]

im just going to debate with people why theyre townreading brainbomb.

What about the way he has played, claimed, survived and not done anything useful with his role whatsoever makes people believe him?

chaqa, you can stay out of it, or you can puke, I dont really care

Please try to be more polite.

If I can do it, you can too.

There is nothing impolite about this. Chaqa said previously he was going to puke if he saw one more brainbomb post. Im not willing to let it go.

If youre going to try to do this moral police thing, at least get good at it. Right now its giving me the heebee-jeebis