M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[foodcoats]

Morning peoples.

I think we lynch Neph, Damo, or Bozo tomorrow.

Ideally I'd like summit to scan one of Squigs, Bunny, and foodcoats. Or one of the three above.

Sheesh. Don't waste it on me summit.

[foodcoats]

chaqa is very flip floppy this game. He seems to play reactively to the flavor of the moment and acts like an authority at times. Whats weird is none of the people affiliated to chaq ever seem to question his authority

I suppose it's possible that Chaqa could be a scum Neighbourizer. I did find Chaqa scummy before I was added to the 'hood, and Chaqa's idea about not killing RHK was really pretty bananas, given we had no solid leads and no town consensus about anything other than "lynch RHK or brainbomb" and we had a cop scan saying RHK was guilty.

What do you think of Chaqa's play so far brainbomb?

Why did it took you so long to vote for RHK if Chaqa's idea about not killing RHK was really pretty bananas?

Because I enjoy being contrarian, and there was no need to move onto such a large wagon. I did it towards the end recalling that there could be some kind of shenanigans that flips votes, so having a 1 vote wagon (mine on damo) was possibly bad... even though I still think damo is scum.

I did think that RHK was telling the truth up until summit's scan claim, though.

[xorxes]

@Chaqa, if we both make it through the night, please don't add anyone else to your QT before we have a chance to talk. It may or may not be important. Thanks.

[Chaqa]

Morning peoples.

I think we lynch Neph, Damo, or Bozo tomorrow.

Ideally I'd like summit to scan one of Squigs, Bunny, and foodcoats. Or one of the three above.

Sheesh. Don't waste it on me summit.

If you were scanned we could restore the sanctity of the QT.

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa, if we both make it through the night, please don't add anyone else to your QT before we have a chance to talk. It may or may not be important. Thanks.

I doubt we both live through the night lol

[xorxes]

@Chaqa, if we both make it through the night, please don't add anyone else to your QT before we have a chance to talk. It may or may not be important. Thanks.

I doubt we both live through the night lol

You never know...

[rdrivera2005]

That's why I was thinking he could be 3P, but the Flavor shows it was Kgray that visited him and I don't think it exists a 3P that just sit still and wait for people to visit him. And even if this is the case he will never claim this role. So either town or scum, and the way he told people to stay away from him looks town to me.

It's hard to tell people effectively to stay away from you, because many people will take that as more of a reason to investigate you.

I don't now remember how or when Vecna did that. Was it N1 or N2? I think he did say that Jailor should not jail him or emc at one point. Can you point me to where he made a general statement that nobody should approach him?

"he will never claim this role" is hard to sell. Lying about their role is something that scum will try to avoid at all costs, because lies will come to bite them in the long run. They of course need to lie about their alignment, but they will be as truthful as they can about their role.

Did and ISO on Vecna.
You are right, he didn´t said anything on N1 and on N2 just asked the Jailor to avoid him or emc, I don´t know why I had a memory he asked people to avoid him at some point.
And he crumbed more then once a visiting role. Not really AI, as I can see reasons for both. So, I guess he could have any alignment, but still think for a 3P is a far too week power for a role madness, unles he has a recruiting power or something like that.
I felt D1 as towny, but reading again he was really focused on Bismarck with not much to base it. D2 he was mostly absent but decided the vote on favour of Bismarck instead of emc. D3 he started this push on Brainbomb after the doubled doc claim and he is now tunneling Brain hard.
My problem is I can see either town Vecna or scum Vecna playing this way. And we can´t even mechanically sort him as I don´t think cop scanning him is a good idea.

[xorxes]

Did and ISO on Vecna.
You are right, he didn´t said anything on N1 and on N2 just asked the Jailor to avoid him or emc, I don´t know why I had a memory he asked people to avoid him at some point.
And he crumbed more then once a visiting role. Not really AI, as I can see reasons for both. So, I guess he could have any alignment, but still think for a 3P is a far too week power for a role madness, unles he has a recruiting power or something like that.

Or a Doctor as a partner? I've been toying with the idea of a Vecna-brainbomb 3P team, but I have not really checked how much sense it makes.

I felt D1 as towny, but reading again he was really focused on Bismarck with not much to base it. D2 he was mostly absent but decided the vote on favour of Bismarck instead of emc. D3 he started this push on Brainbomb after the doubled doc claim and he is now tunneling Brain hard.
My problem is I can see either town Vecna or scum Vecna playing this way. And we can´t even mechanically sort him as I don´t think cop scanning him is a good idea.

I can't really figure out his obsession with brainbomb.

[bozotheclown]

Count of DemonRHK posts mentioning each player, as best I could determine:

Jamie: 5
brainbomb: 14
xorxes: 7
rdrivera: 2
Donny Dude: 7 (3 while alive)
emc: 6
Chaqa: 9
damo: 1
Vecna: 7
summit_fever: 2
foodcoats: 9
kgray: 3
bozo: 3
Sarah: 4
flash: 4
Foxcastle: 5 (Squigs: 0)
TheMarche: 2
Nephthys: 1
dargorygel: 2 (BunnyGo: 0)
BismarckAlive: 4 (3 while alive)

Didn't we swear at each other right when I joined?

I see that you exchanged some messages with DemonRHK, but he never mentioned you by name. Why did you vote for him the first time?

[bozotheclown]

Holy fuck content.

So I don't like a ton of stuff Donny has done. He had that whole weird flash to no lynch to suicide vote line. At first I was on clueless town, then newb-scum, then too dumb to be scum but he's reaching DammDan levels of super overt.

Rdr has been lazy sitting on Sarah and almost everything was focused there, BUT, he hasn't posted in a while and I misread rdr all the damn time.

food is rubbing me the wrong way. He piled on Sarah and then jumped back onto fox the next time he was back.

I don't have the bias against Sarah many of you have, so I don't see scummy, mostly...disinterested? Lazy? Like I get Durga vibes here on playstyle. And most of this pressure is policy not scumreading, which breaks down to I don't care if I kill someone I think could be town.

My three up three down:
Brain, Kgrey, and Vecna town
food, Donny, and Marche scum

##Vote foodcoats

With 20 players to pick from, my guess is all six he listed here are town (2 are confirmed).

Is that based on how you play? Or how he plays? Or what? It certainly not how *I* play.

It is based on what I would expect from DemonRHK, and probably most players, on D1. Based on my experience, DemonRHK is not big on bussing, at least not D1.

[rdrivera2005]

Did and ISO on Vecna.
You are right, he didn´t said anything on N1 and on N2 just asked the Jailor to avoid him or emc, I don´t know why I had a memory he asked people to avoid him at some point.
And he crumbed more then once a visiting role. Not really AI, as I can see reasons for both. So, I guess he could have any alignment, but still think for a 3P is a far too week power for a role madness, unles he has a recruiting power or something like that.

Or a Doctor as a partner? I've been toying with the idea of a Vecna-brainbomb 3P team, but I have not really checked how much sense it makes.

I felt D1 as towny, but reading again he was really focused on Bismarck with not much to base it. D2 he was mostly absent but decided the vote on favour of Bismarck instead of emc. D3 he started this push on Brainbomb after the doubled doc claim and he is now tunneling Brain hard.
My problem is I can see either town Vecna or scum Vecna playing this way. And we can´t even mechanically sort him as I don´t think cop scanning him is a good idea.

I can't really figure out his obsession with brainbomb.

A 3P protective could explain the many protective around (but I don't fully buy Jamiet claim to protect his scumreads) but I still don't see it as a likely possibility.

I tend to believe Brain's claim. Only in a complete weird scenario like Vecna is proposing he isn't town doctor.

[BunnyGo]

Count of DemonRHK posts mentioning each player, as best I could determine:

Jamie: 5
brainbomb: 14
xorxes: 7
rdrivera: 2
Donny Dude: 7 (3 while alive)
emc: 6
Chaqa: 9
damo: 1
Vecna: 7
summit_fever: 2
foodcoats: 9
kgray: 3
bozo: 3
Sarah: 4
flash: 4
Foxcastle: 5 (Squigs: 0)
TheMarche: 2
Nephthys: 1
dargorygel: 2 (BunnyGo: 0)
BismarckAlive: 4 (3 while alive)

Didn't we swear at each other right when I joined?

I see that you exchanged some messages with DemonRHK, but he never mentioned you by name. Why did you vote for him the first time?

He was being an ass about me joining and asking for help. He seemed on edge. It was a gut/snap/policy thing. I moved to EMC when I found out he missed a vote (violated parole) and cheated. I don’t like that.

My major concerns right now:

1) EMC. I don’t believe he’s being entirely truthful about his role. Why is he upvoting things? Why have a 3P who just steals a role? That’s dumb. But a skin walker. Someone who perverts things or has a power...I think he’s hiding stuff and I don’t believe he’s town.

2) Vecna. I do understand town!Vecna wanting to bait a scum to visit. But Vecna is clever. He’d just bait them with a claim (heavy heavy crumbing) of an obviously strong PR. I do understand scum!Vecna playing this way. So it’s concerning.

I’m sure there are more things. But those are the two mechanics ones that jump at me. I’ll post next about my “feelings/listening” ones.

[Chaqa]

With 20 players to pick from, my guess is all six he listed here are town (2 are confirmed).

Is that based on how you play? Or how he plays? Or what? It certainly not how *I* play.

It is based on what I would expect from DemonRHK, and probably most players, on D1. Based on my experience, DemonRHK is not big on bussing, at least not D1.

I found mixed data on this. On the bot, RHK was scum in M40 and did not vote for a teammate Day 1 or Day 2. However, in M28, he did vote for a teammate both on Day 1 and Day 2.

[BunnyGo]

Feelings:

I see xorxes trying more. This is usually good.

I see brain all over the place. This is hard for me to hear him hunting. But who knows.

I see Neph being inscrutable. This is anti-town play style (IMHO), but I actually hear Neph being sarcastic in a way that connotes he is thinking and trying. He’s not taunting except to say he thinks the rest of yous are being dumb. This is towny.

I see Chaq being weird. He’s throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. But I don’t know all the things he’s saying privately. His public face (outside the sex cult) is someone struggling. Townish.

Jamie I don’t get. But that may be me not listening correctly. I just don’t get what he’s trying to do/say/think and that worries me.

EMC really worries me. I don’t understand why people are letting him violate rules, disappear, over post, under post. It’s obfuscating, it’s worrying. And it suggests someone who isn’t trying to listen but instead trying to hide things.

I already posted my ISO and thoughts on summit. (I’m on phone with kids at nap time. So hard to do a lot)

I didn’t look back much at older days. This is just based on what I read and heard and felt.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie I don’t get. But that may be me not listening correctly. I just don’t get what he’s trying to do/say/think and that worries me.

Please help me to help you.

Ask me questions.

What have I done to cause you confusion?

[e.m.c^42]

I believe you may be a little bit mistaken on what exactly I've done and not done this game but okay, lol

[Chaqa]

Didn't we swear at each other right when I joined?

I see that you exchanged some messages with DemonRHK, but he never mentioned you by name. Why did you vote for him the first time?

He was being an ass about me joining and asking for help. He seemed on edge. It was a gut/snap/policy thing. I moved to EMC when I found out he missed a vote (violated parole) and cheated. I don’t like that.

My major concerns right now:

1) EMC. I don’t believe he’s being entirely truthful about his role. Why is he upvoting things? Why have a 3P who just steals a role? That’s dumb. But a skin walker. Someone who perverts things or has a power...I think he’s hiding stuff and I don’t believe he’s town.

2) Vecna. I do understand town!Vecna wanting to bait a scum to visit. But Vecna is clever. He’d just bait them with a claim (heavy heavy crumbing) of an obviously strong PR. I do understand scum!Vecna playing this way. So it’s concerning.

I’m sure there are more things. But those are the two mechanics ones that jump at me. I’ll post next about my “feelings/listening” ones.

1 - EMC did not miss a vote.
2 - EMC's +1ing is not alignment-indicative and I was also +1ing everything. He +1s literally EVERY POST on the ENTIRE FORUM, mafia is no different except that it's normally not allowed.

[Chaqa]

I believe you may be a little bit mistaken on what exactly I've done and not done this game but okay, lol

Understatement.

[e.m.c^42]

I believe you may be a little bit mistaken on what exactly I've done and not done this game but okay, lol

Understatement.

My life is an understatement.

[Chaqa]

Even a simple look at the bot would tell you he didn't miss a vote...