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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5281 Post by brainbomb » Tue May 05, 2020 8:37 pm

I wanna say rhk is not grist for the mill
no one is expendable. no player is just supposed to be meat for slaughter.

but you do have to follow precedent

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5282 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch Neph and begin working through some of the scum candidates (Neph, Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5283 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:34 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
Lmao. You sure RHK will want to work with town though? And that he isn't scum
Worst case we can lynch him in the future.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5284 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:40 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:35 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
You don't think there is any chance DemonRHK was fabricating that 3P role?
I'd give it 25% odds he's scum and 75% he's 3P.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5285 Post by Nephthys » Tue May 05, 2020 8:40 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch A person and begin working through some of the scum candidates Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.
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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5286 Post by Vecna » Tue May 05, 2020 8:40 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch Neph and begin working through some of the scum candidates (Neph, Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.
Whats your reason for both believing RHK and EMC?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5287 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:41 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:40 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm


Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch Neph and begin working through some of the scum candidates (Neph, Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.
Whats your reason for both believing RHK and EMC?
I have a reads list I wrote up a few pages back that covers this.

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#5288 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:41 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:57 pm
As it stands, here's my general read on everyone:

Core Town:
Brainbomb: I was very much reading him as scum, but after all the interactions yesterday, as well as the realization that he didn't know foodcoats was in my QT, I'm pretty sure he is the true and blue Town Doctor. RHK's scum-scan adds extra weight to this, but there is a slight potential for being wrong here due to Jamie also claiming town protective.

EMC: Everything he has done from the beginning of our conversations in our QT make me think he's town. I had a bit of a loss of faith momentarily, but I feel pretty alright that he's town given what we know about night 2 actions (or, what we suspect). If flash flips scum or something other than Watcher, this could change, but to me Flash's info at least confirms EMC is the Tracker, though he could potentially be 3P or scum yet.

Foodcoats: I thought about it a lot, and I don't see Lightning Rod being scum. Especially if, as I suspect, the Jailer is classified as a roleblocking role. If we see Jailer flip town protective, then maybe Food is scum, but until then, I have him as town.

Summit: Town Cop. I don't foresee a scum cop, though it's possible, to me he's fel town all game and his scan on RHK fits.

Lean Town:
Flash: For now, I will lean town on him. I can 100% believe town!watcher!Flash trying to keep an eye on xorxes last night, and EMC confirms he did try to visit xorxes. Given two deaths last night, we know mafia performed a kill. We also know Flash isn't the Jailer. Given all this, he's town unless Jailer is town as well, then he may be some sort of unknown scum role.

Jamiet: I would like to clear up his exact role, and I have some questions, but for now I'm still leaning town on him. Will have a more certain read after I can get his full role tonight.

Rivera: This one has the least to back it up. He's had some insightful and logical posts and it's more a gut feeling than anything. Out of everyone in this category, he's the least-strong townread.

Vecna: I believe 100% he is a Army Vet (Paranoid Gun Owner) role. I think he's more likely to be 3P than scum, and more likely to be town than 3P. He might be a decent lynch down the line, but for now he's a deterrent to scum visiting him (or anyone visiting him).

xorxes: Town or 3P, unless Jailer flips town. Enough said.

The Scum Candidates:
Bozo: I've laid out a few different thoughts on why Bozo might be scum before. The gist is that I just don't feel like he's paying much attention, and he's usually much more adept at mechanics discussions than he has been. He's probably my #1 scumread (besides RHK).

Damo: Has rubbed me wrong a lot of the game. I want to make a note that EMC has been townreading and pushing for Damo's recruitment into my QT, so if EMC flips scum, Damo is a very likely teammate.

Bunny(Dargo): Dargo was really scummy early, though I mainly was joking at first he didn't really ever get better. Bunny is incomprehensible and unapproachable as usual. Solid scum candidate.

RHK: Either 3P doctor or some scum role. Should be lynched today.

Squigs(Fox): Fox struck me as town early in the game, then disappeared. I haven't had enough from Squigs yet to say either way.

Neph: He was doing this really strange "too scummy to be scum" or "idk what's going on" bit early in the game that I still find scummy. Has improved somewhat lately. Pushing for a massclaim. Still a potential Jester/Tanner role, or maybe some sort of role that wants to die? Hard to say. Possible scum.

Sarah: Likely modkill. Probably town. Not going to say much else./
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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5289 Post by xorxes » Tue May 05, 2020 8:41 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch Neph and begin working through some of the scum candidates (Neph, Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.
RHK claims he is 3P who can win with town or with mafia, but my wincon says that town wins when there are no other factions left standing, so I doubt he was telling the truth there.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5290 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:43 pm

@xorx - that's what all the town role PMs say, yes.

If we lynch RHK today it's fine. I just think we could give him a day or two.

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#5291 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 8:43 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:28 pm
Vecna is camp counselor
Jamie is scout master
Damo is overly concerned parent
Vecna isn't particularly camp, it's just his accent.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5292 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue May 05, 2020 8:43 pm

I am leaving work now and might lose EOD.
I still don't see a better lynch then Demon, I just don't believe the role he claimed and the way he claimed.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5293 Post by bozotheclown » Tue May 05, 2020 8:43 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm


Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch Neph and begin working through some of the scum candidates (Neph, Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.
RHK claims he is 3P who can win with town or with mafia, but my wincon says that town wins when there are no other factions left standing, so I doubt he was telling the truth there.
I agree, I think DemonRHK fabricated a role. He may be a scum doctor.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5294 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:44 pm

Regardless, I don't think there's enough people on to swing this to Neph anyway.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5295 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 8:44 pm

xorxes wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:41 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:39 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:32 pm


Talk to me Chaqa?

gimme your rundown. Theres too much frivolous idiocy going on here clearly
RHK is almost certainly the 3P Doctor. If he is, we can work with him. Having an additional doc save out there tonight is good for town, and good for RHK. We should lynch Neph and begin working through some of the scum candidates (Neph, Bozo, Damo, Squigs, Bunny are the main five) and we can always come back to RHK later on.
RHK claims he is 3P who can win with town or with mafia, but my wincon says that town wins when there are no other factions left standing, so I doubt he was telling the truth there.
Why do you think your win condition and the third party win condition would be the same?

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#5296 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:44 pm

If RHK were lying I'd assume he'd actually stick around to check on things.

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#5297 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 8:44 pm

Speaking of Damo, where's he at?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5298 Post by e.m.c^42 » Tue May 05, 2020 8:45 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:40 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:35 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:31 pm
Yay another runaway wagon on someone we know isn't mafia.

10/10 guys, real great.
You don't think there is any chance DemonRHK was fabricating that 3P role?
I'd give it 25% odds he's scum and 75% he's 3P.
You know what, just for you, ##vote neph

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#5299 Post by Nephthys » Tue May 05, 2020 8:45 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:44 pm
I love you Neph
Thanks

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5300 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 8:45 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 8:44 pm
Speaking of Damo, where's he at?
Hiding while we lynch another not-his-scum-mate

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