M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[e.m.c^42]

But no, he gave up rather quickly, so.

[damo666]

I have my doubts that RHK is actually survivor or doc because he didn't even think of the option of bargaining and went straight for role PM and now has given up for death.

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

Regardless of his alignment (presumably scum or a 3p different to how he described) he is gonna be mod killed anyway so we may as well just end (saving Sarah and avoiding a townlynch) unless we are pretty certain of a scumlynch which we patently aren't.

[BunnyGo]

I have my doubts that RHK is actually survivor or doc because he didn't even think of the option of bargaining and went straight for role PM and now has given up for death.

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

Regardless of his alignment (presumably scum or a 3p different to how he described) he is gonna be mod killed anyway so we may as well just end (saving Sarah and avoiding a townlynch) unless we are pretty certain of a scumlynch which we patently aren't.

I still question Sarah's continuation in the game as "pro-town". I think having her mod-killed is in town's favor. It would have been had Andy been modkilled earlier last big game. I get being kind to new players. I really really do, and want to encourage them to keep coming, but this is now her second game.

[damo666]

if scum ever wants to kill cop they have to jail me or kill me first

I'm confused. So you are now saying you can keep saving the same person on consecutive nights but you said it was straight up doc. Which is it?

Is this cyber bullying?

No. But your post potentially is.

[damo666]

I have my doubts that RHK is actually survivor or doc because he didn't even think of the option of bargaining and went straight for role PM and now has given up for death.

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

Regardless of his alignment (presumably scum or a 3p different to how he described) he is gonna be mod killed anyway so we may as well just end (saving Sarah and avoiding a townlynch) unless we are pretty certain of a scumlynch which we patently aren't.

I still question Sarah's continuation in the game as "pro-town". I think having her mod-killed is in town's favor. It would have been had Andy been modkilled earlier last big game. I get being kind to new players. I really really do, and want to encourage them to keep coming, but this is now her second game.

Tbh I don't really care but the day is effectively over. Drag it out to get 2 modkills if you wish.

[e.m.c^42]

I have my doubts that RHK is actually survivor or doc because he didn't even think of the option of bargaining and went straight for role PM and now has given up for death.

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

Regardless of his alignment (presumably scum or a 3p different to how he described) he is gonna be mod killed anyway so we may as well just end (saving Sarah and avoiding a townlynch) unless we are pretty certain of a scumlynch which we patently aren't.

No like, why he didn't before he broke them. There was a good stretch of time.

[Jamiet99uk]

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

I don't understand this statement.

[BunnyGo]

I have my doubts that RHK is actually survivor or doc because he didn't even think of the option of bargaining and went straight for role PM and now has given up for death.

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

Regardless of his alignment (presumably scum or a 3p different to how he described) he is gonna be mod killed anyway so we may as well just end (saving Sarah and avoiding a townlynch) unless we are pretty certain of a scumlynch which we patently aren't.

No like, why he didn't before he broke them. There was a good stretch of time.

I think as was previously stated (by Jamie maybe?): he woke up, saw the wagon, and left something in his pants. Then panicked and broke the rules.

[xorxes]

I still find it hard to believe that the game started with two different third party factions.

Worcej did explicitly state that there would be "at least one" 3p, so it wouldn't be completely out of the blue... especially, as neither of the claims so far are “active” 3p.

He did say "at least one 3p" in point 2, but "a 3P faction" in point 1. To me that strongly suggests one faction with likely more than one member, not more than one faction.

[xorxes]

Now what are the chances that town has two Docs and there is a Third Party Doc as well?

Much more likely that each faction has their own Doc.

[damo666]

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

I don't understand this statement.

Why not?

[damo666]

I have my doubts that RHK is actually survivor or doc because he didn't even think of the option of bargaining and went straight for role PM and now has given up for death.

He says worcej has told him he broke the rules (which must be true else a rule violation of itself) therefore his role description is fake.

Regardless of his alignment (presumably scum or a 3p different to how he described) he is gonna be mod killed anyway so we may as well just end (saving Sarah and avoiding a townlynch) unless we are pretty certain of a scumlynch which we patently aren't.

No like, why he didn't before he broke them. There was a good stretch of time.

I do not disagree. I was making a separate point.

[Chaqa]

♫ A HEAVENLY CHORUS SOUNDS ♫

From my cloud of equanimity I faintly perceive the nagging voice of the noted sex cultist, Chaqa…

Do you have questions for me, Chaqa? What is it that was not addressed?

You claimed to me via our coded messaging that you were a protective role.

Yet, on Night 1, you said you would visit your scumreads, and visited Bozo. Night 2 your crumb was a bit unclear who you were visiting.

Why would a protective role visit their scumreads?

♪♫♪♪ GENTLE MUSIC OF INCREDIBLE BEAUTY PLAYS ♪♫♪♪

I see you have decided to make it clear to the mortal world that you did indeed invite me to join the Neighbourhood Watch.

Very well.

You now wish me to reveal my role, yes?

Well, we weren't too subtle, and xorxes outed.

Can you not use that dark blue text? Hard to read against the site's colors

[Chaqa]

All of this role PM analysis, rule skiting, and general meta-nonsense is really starting to bore me.

I think we should just mass-claim right now.

[xorxes]

Your ability is considered a protective ability and fires after any town or scum protective abilities.

This is relevant for a roleblocking ability. What relevance could it possibly have for a protective ability? Am I missing something?

It's already been mentioned.

His victory condition requires him to successfully save lives. But if he targets the same person as a Town (or scum?) Protective, and they are attacked, then the target is saved by them, and not him, and so does not help him achieve victory.

See?

That makes some sense.

The joint victory condition is more of a problem.

[Chaqa]

I think there's three possibilities:
1. He is a mafia jailer that knew they weren't targeting me and therefore felt safe to claim this role. He also felt safe saying I wasn't bus driven since the driver died and could not counter this, and he knew who flash/EMC had watched/tracked.

2. He is 3P Doctor as he says.

3. He is 3P role of some other sort (maybe Arsonist?) and is using this role as cover to stay alive.

Only in scenario 2 is he possibly not a good lynch. And he can win with any faction, so he would 100% join scum to sell us out long-term, no?

Let's just lynch him and see what he is.

[xorxes]

To elaborate, if he was truly 3P doc then I have to wonder why he did not, say, bargain and lay out this scenario:

"Ok guys, I get that I'm 3P and possibly jailer but how about let me live and I'll save based on a group of players that you guys provide, and you can have emc track me or something"

Or

"I'll save in the group that you guy choose and we can have flash on at EoN and I'll post my choice at :59 and flash can send in his order to that on the clock"

Or even both of the above, actually. Instead he went straight for seemingly copy/paste. He's not that short-sighted.

Are you saying that using flash would be more effective than using your own powers to verify that he does as he promises? Or that flash is more trustworthy than you?

[damo666]

I think there's three possibilities:
1. He is a mafia jailer that knew they weren't targeting me and therefore felt safe to claim this role. He also felt safe saying I wasn't bus driven since the driver died and could not counter this, and he knew who flash/EMC had watched/tracked.

2. He is 3P Doctor as he says.

3. He is 3P role of some other sort (maybe Arsonist?) and is using this role as cover to stay alive.

Only in scenario 2 is he possibly not a good lynch. And he can win with any faction, so he would 100% join scum to sell us out long-term, no?

Let's just lynch him and see what he is.

It can't be 2 because of the rule violation. If he is lying about the rule violation that would be a rule violation so ....

IT DOESN'T MATTER HE IS GETTING MODKILLED ANYWAY

[damo666]

Please join me on end and bring this miserable day to a close.

[Chaqa]

If he was going to be modkilled it would have happened already.

Not reading into flavor was one thing, but I'm DEFINITELY not getting involved in WIFOM involving the GM, role confirmations, PMs, and all this BS.

We had brainbomb saying he requested a sub. Yet worcej said he needed two subs in Discord (for Dargo and Fox, I presume), not three.

We have RHK saying he broke a rule.

No GM confirmation either way on either one.

It's so fucking dumb.

If this shit continues I will just stop paying any attention whatsoever because it's old.