M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[damo666]

I think brain and demon are both scum and invented the double doc claim such that the survivor becomes an apparent townclear.

Are you suggesting there is NO doc who joins the 3rd claim? Or that Jamie's (is it Jamie?) claim to Chaq in code (are we really trusting this?) that he's a protector is the 3rd claim?

Jamie's 'claim' supports my theory.

@Jamie care to comment?

[BunnyGo]

##end

TO AVOID A SARAH MODKILL

Odds are she is town

Serious question after watching the last game: Is her survival pro-town EVEN if she is town?

[Jamiet99uk]

He would be informed of if his target changed though, wouldn't he? Like any other role that names a player for their action.

This might depend on GM. When I've used a bus driver, anyone targeting is explicitly NOT told they were swapped.

You are the Town Bus Driver! You love taking people to and from for whatever reason you want! Each night, you can ##swap two players by PMing the GM. When you do, those players swap places and any action targeting one will target the other. Your ability is considered a Protective-type ability.

You win when the Town faction is the last faction left standing.

The role PM is not clear.

Where is this driver PM from?

End of phase. Worcej is posting the PMs of players as they flip. Iso Worcej using the bot and you'll see.

[damo666]

##end

TO AVOID A SARAH MODKILL

Odds are she is town

Serious question after watching the last game: Is her survival pro-town EVEN if she is town?

It would give her another 72 hours to prove herself.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think brain and demon are both scum and invented the double doc claim such that the survivor becomes an apparent townclear.

Are you suggesting there is NO doc who joins the 3rd claim? Or that Jamie's (is it Jamie?) claim to Chaq in code (are we really trusting this?) that he's a protector is the 3rd claim?

Jamie's 'claim' supports my theory.

@Jamie care to comment?

Are you inviting me to claim?

[damo666]

This might depend on GM. When I've used a bus driver, anyone targeting is explicitly NOT told they were swapped.



The role PM is not clear.

Where is this driver PM from?

End of phase. Worcej is posting the PMs of players as they flip. Iso Worcej using the bot and you'll see.

Yeah, sorry, obvious really. Doh!

[BunnyGo]

What?

Metagaming?

What?

The reasoning was clear. It is summarized as:

If they are same team it is too powerful and GM and council wouldn’t let them.

Meta gaming.

That's not metagaming. It's setup analysis.

If you had a 10 player setup, and four people claimed Bulletproof Town Cop, and I said "at least one of them is lying" would you should "FUH FUH FUH METAGAYMING!"

Shut up.

Objection your honor, badgering the witness.

[damo666]

Are you suggesting there is NO doc who joins the 3rd claim? Or that Jamie's (is it Jamie?) claim to Chaq in code (are we really trusting this?) that he's a protector is the 3rd claim?

Jamie's 'claim' supports my theory.

@Jamie care to comment?

Are you inviting me to claim?

I'm inviting you to comment on whether you think my brain demon double scum theory has any merit.

[damo666]

The reasoning was clear. It is summarized as:

If they are same team it is too powerful and GM and council wouldn’t let them.

Meta gaming.

That's not metagaming. It's setup analysis.

If you had a 10 player setup, and four people claimed Bulletproof Town Cop, and I said "at least one of them is lying" would you should "FUH FUH FUH METAGAYMING!"

Shut up.

Objection your honor, badgering the witness.

Overruled

[BunnyGo]

Question: I just started the requested summit_fever read. An early post said he knew who was upvoting posts. Is this possible? If so I want 3 volunteers for N3 to make sure every post has EXACTLY 2 upvotes and nobody else upvotes. This includes GM posts.

Is it possible to know who +1'ed a post?

Yes, look in your own profile at the "list of +1 actions".

Hi Bunny,

You can also mouseover the votecount. What will happen if you find these volunteers.

Mind blown

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie's 'claim' supports my theory.

@Jamie care to comment?

Are you inviting me to claim?

I'm inviting you to comment on whether you think my brain demon double scum theory has any merit.

It might do.

What Brainbomb said about his "Doctor" role having no restriction on consecutive targeting is interesting too. I have a visiting role which permits me to visit the same target on consecutive nights...

[rdrivera2005]

I think brain and demon are both scum and invented the double doc claim such that the survivor becomes an apparent townclear.

I have done this with Ezio before and I won the game on lylo. But it only worked because Ezio did it without telling me so I was really enraged with him.
But I don't think they will try it here, it's something that can only be done once as it will not have the same effect twice.

[foodcoats]

I think brain and demon are both scum and invented the double doc claim such that the survivor becomes an apparent townclear.

I have done this with Ezio before and I won the game on lylo. But it only worked because Ezio did it without telling me so I was really enraged with him.
But I don't think they will try it here, it's something that can only be done once as it will not have the same effect twice.

This is the story we tried to sell when dargorygel fake-claimed Tracker for no reason and EspressoPatronum truthfully counter-claimed.

The simpler explanation is that one of them is the Doctor. And since we don't know how far we are from LYLO/MYLO, it's dangerous to take the time to lynch both of them based on a hypothetical scum strategy. We should take their whole activity history into account.

damo, what do you think of brainbomb's iso pre-claim? What do you think of RHK's iso pre-claim?

[foodcoats]

Since I'm still iffy on whether Donny was scum.
Town needs a scum lynch.
I'm the cop, and demon is scum.

Oh, wow.

Seems truthful. Alright, let's roll.

##VOTE DemonRHK

[brainbomb]

from very early game neph and demon rhk seemed to be teammates. both playing reactively and both were upset I wouldnt townread them

[brainbomb]

My three up three down:
Brain, Kgrey, and Vecna town
food, Donny, and Marche scum

##Vote foodcoats

Brain is brown reading me.
@Brain: Does that mean I'm scum or just shit?

RHK probably wasnt bussing. so maybe my foodcoats theory is off.

Fighting out of the blue corner, the Beast of Bombast, the Logic-less Legend, the Giorgio Tsoukalos of the Mafia world, BRAAAAAAAAAAINBOOOOOOOOMB.

And

Fighting out of the red corner, the English Eviscerator, the Ser of Snark, The Jack the Ripper to alllll of your cases, JAAAAAAMIE TEE NINETY-NINE YOOOOOOOOU-KAAAAAAAAY.

he wanted Jamie to fight me tho, so thats maybe good news for jamie

[BunnyGo]

My three up three down:
Brain, Kgrey, and Vecna town
food, Donny, and Marche scum

##Vote foodcoats

Brain is brown reading me.
@Brain: Does that mean I'm scum or just shit?

RHK probably wasnt bussing. so maybe my foodcoats theory is off.

Fighting out of the blue corner, the Beast of Bombast, the Logic-less Legend, the Giorgio Tsoukalos of the Mafia world, BRAAAAAAAAAAINBOOOOOOOOMB.

And

Fighting out of the red corner, the English Eviscerator, the Ser of Snark, The Jack the Ripper to alllll of your cases, JAAAAAAMIE TEE NINETY-NINE YOOOOOOOOU-KAAAAAAAAY.

he wanted Jamie to fight me tho, so thats maybe good news for jamie

Yeah...encouraging chaos and fighting is not pro-town

[brainbomb]

Nephthys
Day-1 46:15
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↑brainbomb: "Chaqa, Neph, DemonRHK are people I got all very brown reads on"
And why do you not like me

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Nephthys
Day-1 46:03
page 10 / orig
↑Nephthys: "And why do you not like me"

@brain

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Nephthys
Day-1 45:54
page 11 / orig
↑brainbomb: "I know its last game
but my herculean undertaking was to convince not just you, but sarah that damo ans worcej were scum..."

So your inability to make Sarah and xorx believe your reads means that you now need to convince xorx???

Good thing there are only you and xorx in this game


Nephthys
Day-1 45:50
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↑brainbomb: "no but its 2 people who ive seen I do not have a great rapport with in terms of sheepability"

This seems to be more about your ego than solving the game tbh


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Nephthys
Day-1 45:44
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↑brainbomb: "it seems like neph and demonrhk are very disappointed I dont have them as townreads"

I can't continue without you townreading me dearest brainbomb.

Neph gets sadistic and hates my null.on.him. demands the read change.



Also worth noting is neph and demonrhk both hard defend sarah.

brainbomb: "its not that sarah isnt great.

its that shes teasing the possibility she could be scum."

Na she's town.

Her line if thinking is to be open to a fault.

The issue is that everyone plays their cards close to their chest in this game

SarahK24: "Can you explain to me why you think neph is scum..."

Can you explain why I'm not?

Weird af.

Bozo -town
Sarah - town
marche - town

Donny - scum

I think the flash wagon is a stretch and the Sarah is severely LHF.

[Jamiet99uk]

DemonRHK is going to defecate in his underclothing when he logs in and sees the size of the wagon on him.

[DemonRHK]

I AM NOT SCUM.

I am a 3rd party Doctor.

'You are the Disgraced Doctor! Your habit of partying too much and leaving patients on a slab has gotten you in hot water with the medical board. During the night, you may ##save a player. If you do, your target is immune to killing actions. Your ability is considered a protective ability and fires after any town or scum protective abilities. You scan as guilty if scanned by a cop-like ability until your victory condition is fulfilled.

You win if you are alive at the end of the game and you have saved two different players. You may win alongside any other faction.'

Some info I have:

- I may save the same target consecutively. This includes myself, meaning that short of a rb I am night immune after I hit my wincon.

- After I pull off the second save, I begin to scan as town.

- Worc wouldn't give any more info when I asked about the whole scum protective ability thing.