M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[damo666]

Would the Doctor be informed if their target was bus driven? Typically not.

He would be informed of if his target changed though, wouldn't he? Like any other role that names a player for their action.

This might depend on GM. When I've used a bus driver, anyone targeting is explicitly NOT told they were swapped.

You are the Town Bus Driver! You love taking people to and from for whatever reason you want! Each night, you can ##swap two players by PMing the GM. When you do, those players swap places and any action targeting one will target the other. Your ability is considered a Protective-type ability.

You win when the Town faction is the last faction left standing.

The role PM is not clear.

Where is this driver PM from?

[BunnyGo]

Since I'm still iffy on whether Donny was scum.
Town needs a scum lynch.
I'm the cop, and demon is scum.

Is this your first time claiming? Did you scan Demon? Did anyone else claim a scanning role yet?

[damo666]

Why would alignment matter?

The rules say that if two roleblocking abilities target each other (which would be the case here), then town goes first, then Mafia, then 3P.

One of the Town JOAT's abilities was "1x Flare Gun (a roleblock action)", so the rule you are referring to about the roleblock resolution may just contain an oversight with regard to 2 roleblocks from the same alignment.

Where are town JOATs abilities listed?

[damo666]

The rules say that if two roleblocking abilities target each other (which would be the case here), then town goes first, then Mafia, then 3P.

One of the Town JOAT's abilities was "1x Flare Gun (a roleblock action)", so the rule you are referring to about the roleblock resolution may just contain an oversight with regard to 2 roleblocks from the same alignment.

Hmm... That's interesting.

What does a Flare Gun do? What would happen if the Flare Gun was used against the Jailor while the Jailor tried to jail the JOAT?

That gives more support to the idea that Jailor is scum, but takes support from the idea that LR is town.

Or 3p Jailer

[damo666]

One of the Town JOAT's abilities was "1x Flare Gun (a roleblock action)", so the rule you are referring to about the roleblock resolution may just contain an oversight with regard to 2 roleblocks from the same alignment.

Hmm... That's interesting.

What does a Flare Gun do? What would happen if the Flare Gun was used against the Jailor while the Jailor tried to jail the JOAT?

That gives more support to the idea that Jailor is scum, but takes support from the idea that LR is town.

Do we know for sure Jailing would be a roleblock and not a protection?

##CallGM: what would happen if two simultaneous roleblocks (both town) were attempted on each other through a Flare Gun and some other power?

You clearly cannot ask this.

[damo666]

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[BunnyGo]

Still catching up on the requested summit ISO. I find his breadbaking a curious mislead. Baguettes? What sort of preferment? Hydration level? Do you care how many slices? How many stretches during bulk rise until desired tension was reached?

[BunnyGo]

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[BunnyGo]

What sort of cop? Alignment or role cop? Crumbs?

I do tend to believe this, though.

##Vote DemonRHK

Alignment

If you're asking if I crumbed there are no intentional crumbs.

"Sit back and observe" from your first post wasn't intentional "watcher" crumb?

[damo666]

So, simplified, I'm leaning towards townreading bozo for his improvement but at the same time I feel like that is NAI or even scummy (albeit at a long stretch) as it is mainly just mechs.

Marvellous. You townread, nullread and scumread Bozo.

Very helpful.

Thanks for your efforts.

[damo666]

Flash n Neph, since you two have stopped playing intentionally detached, gimme reads y'all

Damo you too.

Will do well before EOD

[BunnyGo]

Okay so Summit fever comes in with a cop claim with a guilty scan on RHK. That makes things easy for me, as long as summit is telling the truth.
##vote DemonRHK

Looking back through summits posts, the one thing that bothers me is that you started day 3 voting brain. Why vote brain if you had a guilty on RHK? You also recently made a post saying to lynch brain, vote RHK. That doesn't make sense, can you explain that post?

works on contingency? no, money down!

was asking brain to get back to lynching scum in that recent post. Ambiguous formatting.

My early vote on brain was due to not liking the names of those nightkilled. Brain had written an essay on why marche was scum, and had started to find kgray scummy. I had the verdict on RHK so I voted brain quickly to see what would happen. Brain and demon then both claimed doctor and demon declared brain confirmed town. At that point I figured getting demon lynched would be fairly easy.

You're new, right? I like your thought process, but the lesson town should be learning from all our recent failures: we need to just play straight and simple and coalesce. Trying to be tricky hides our motivations and makes it hard to trust each other. Allows scum to just coast.

Ok, back to ##VOTE Demon (I forgot I'd moved off and on to EMC...still angry at EMC for doing that shit again. I would *totally* be scanning for that and lynching unless there's a mechanical reason EMC is cleared. Even then...it feels wrong to let him live.) The one time someone pushed the rules with me (sent a nearly meaningless message on discord), immediately apologized, and wasn't mod killed they were scum and lived to end.

[damo666]

I have been town reading summit and have no reason to suspect a fabrication so

##vote demon

[damo666]

So interesting fact. my role doesnt say ANYTHING about consecutive saves.

I may be able to just keep doc saving you forever

I find this hard to believe. You could self save every night.

[damo666]

I think brain and demon are both scum and invented the double doc claim such that the survivor becomes an apparent townclear.

[BunnyGo]

Lynch scum brain, vote demon.

Like what does this mean?

I just finished your ISO (I forget who asked me to).

You read like a new but usually clever player. Asking questions, probing, etc. This is not indicative of alignment. New Town use it to learn and understand. New Scum use it as an easy way to hide.

That said, the timing of your reads, details in them. It's not hard to fake, but your progression seems to fit the "new towny" mold.

Some interesting/worrying posts: "Stop it Stop it he's already dead"

I find the use of emotion there strange. You're largely disconnected in your posts; it's a game. But here you really *seem* to care. Why? It reads (both in and out of context) as forced (especially as Neph seemed to be saying something mean about himself).

Then later you decry the "woe is me" brainbomb stuff.

Otherwise, you mostly read as new. Those are the only posts that set my instincts on edge.

Oh, and the bread...if you want a baguette recipe I have a nice one. I used my extended unemployment to bake lots and lots.

[damo666]

##end

TO AVOID A SARAH MODKILL

Odds are she is town

[Jamiet99uk]

Is it possible to know who +1'ed a post?

Yes, look in your own profile at the "list of +1 actions".

Hi Bunny,

You can also mouseover the votecount. What will happen if you find these volunteers.

I want to conduct experiments. Had my experiments been conducted in firefly game, we'd have caught reavers before they spawned. This experiment is downright easy:

1) see what happens with NO votes including GM posts
2) see what happens with all odd votes
3) see what happens with all even votes
4) see what happens with one odd vote and all even votes

All it takes is people to agree to not upvote anything; even GM. In the firefly game, it would have triggered a GM announcement of whom the 3P was. I dunno what'll happen here. But it doesn't take too much to execute and check.

Surely that will take at least four phases?

[BunnyGo]

I think brain and demon are both scum and invented the double doc claim such that the survivor becomes an apparent townclear.

Are you suggesting there is NO doc who joins the 3rd claim? Or that Jamie's (is it Jamie?) claim to Chaq in code (are we really trusting this?) that he's a protector is the 3rd claim?

[BunnyGo]

Hi Bunny,

You can also mouseover the votecount. What will happen if you find these volunteers.

I want to conduct experiments. Had my experiments been conducted in firefly game, we'd have caught reavers before they spawned. This experiment is downright easy:

1) see what happens with NO votes including GM posts
2) see what happens with all odd votes
3) see what happens with all even votes
4) see what happens with one odd vote and all even votes

All it takes is people to agree to not upvote anything; even GM. In the firefly game, it would have triggered a GM announcement of whom the 3P was. I dunno what'll happen here. But it doesn't take too much to execute and check.

Surely that will take at least four phases?

Yes...but costs nothing (unlike the reaver hunting I wanted to do). The volunteers just have to upvote, and confirm nobody else upvotes.