M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

I still think one of DemonRHK and Brainbomb must be scum, for the simple reason that I don't think town has two standard Doctors.

No way is that a thing. One of them is faking.

yeah, I think it's probably Demon at this point.

[Chaqa]

Claiming he visited/protected me in order to make me not scumread him?

##Vote DemonRHK

[e.m.c^42]

I still think one of DemonRHK and Brainbomb must be scum, for the simple reason that I don't think town has two standard Doctors.

No way is that a thing. One of them is faking.

yeah, I think it's probably Demon at this point.

RHK scum jailer then? If not misreading

[brainbomb]

there are different kinds of doctors tho.

Insane Doctor: This doctor has 50% chance of killing his patient instead of protecting them.
Paranoid Doctor: This doctor not only protects his patient but he also roleblocks them. See also: Jailkeeper.
Naïve Doctor (a.k.a. Quack): This doctor's protection is ineffective.
Weak Doctor: This doctor dies if he protects an anti-town player.
CPR Doctor (also a Quack variant): If the patient is NOT saved from death that Night, this doctor kills its patient.
When a Game Moderator uses these roles as sanities, the player receiving the role is usually only told his/her role is Doctor. Sometimes sanity is revealed upon death, but frequently not, leading to ambiguity if a Doctor is killed early in the game.

These "sanities" are very rarely used as such. However, CPR Doctor and Weak Doctor have gone on to become viable roles in their own right, and players with these roles are generally told their full role names.

[brainbomb]

I do think its possible worcej did this as an anticlaim mechanism.

also mine is proven to not roleblock or kill as summit wouldve died or been roleblocked

[brainbomb]

its possible rhk is actually a doctor and scum. or a doctor and town. this is role madness.

[brainbomb]

if I flip weak doctor then summit is town.

[brainbomb]

Another broken combination involves two Doctors in the same setup; they can protect each other each Night and thus become immune to kills for the rest of the game. Because of this, full Doctors have fallen out of vogue in favor of Jailers or simply not including a protective role at all.

It is not unheard of for Mafia to have Doctors of their own in games with Vigilantes, Serial Killers, or even another Mafia. Their power is about the same in practice as that of standalone Town Doctors. Note however that in some flavours, Mafia Doctors do not have guns, and so act as Godfathers to Gunsmiths.

[brainbomb]

if theres 2 docs. and both town. then there may be a 3p arsonist who is out there dousing ppl. thats a countermeasure to an imbalance of town protectives

[summit_fever]

I do think its possible worcej did this as an anticlaim mechanism.

also mine is proven to not roleblock or kill as summit wouldve died or been roleblocked

I can't confirm I was visited by Brain, but I can confirm my night-time dealings were not affected.

[Jamiet99uk]

Another broken combination involves two Doctors in the same setup; they can protect each other each Night and thus become immune to kills for the rest of the game. Because of this, full Doctors have fallen out of vogue in favor of Jailers or simply not including a protective role at all.

It is not unheard of for Mafia to have Doctors of their own in games with Vigilantes, Serial Killers, or even another Mafia. Their power is about the same in practice as that of standalone Town Doctors. Note however that in some flavours, Mafia Doctors do not have guns, and so act as Godfathers to Gunsmiths.

Doctors with guns? What are you on about now?

[rdrivera2005]

Brain isn't reading, Bunny is going to miss a lot of context and come up with some conclusion that makes no sense, and meanwhile half the players are not present.

The scumteam is probably in that last group.

Where the f are Sarah, rivera, etc.?

let's just start lynching whoever has the lowest post count and see what happens

You are also not reading. I told more then once I need to work presentialy today, which is really annoying and limit my time to access the game. And this back and forth between you and Brain is just annoying and hijacked the thread.
If you have something to ask, I will try to address it later, but I will be spending time with my family now.

[brainbomb]

Another broken combination involves two Doctors in the same setup; they can protect each other each Night and thus become immune to kills for the rest of the game. Because of this, full Doctors have fallen out of vogue in favor of Jailers or simply not including a protective role at all.

It is not unheard of for Mafia to have Doctors of their own in games with Vigilantes, Serial Killers, or even another Mafia. Their power is about the same in practice as that of standalone Town Doctors. Note however that in some flavours, Mafia Doctors do not have guns, and so act as Godfathers to Gunsmiths.

Doctors with guns? What are you on about now?

probably isnt applicable but its from the role wiki on docs. we use a diff style of gunsmith than most forums.

irrelevant here tho

[worcej]

GM Note:
Squigs44 has replaced Foxcastle

[worcej]

More GM Note:
I am scraping the barrel to get replacements... if you know a friend who has a friend who also knows how to play Mafia, I may need them by EOD...

[e.m.c^42]

GM Note:
Squigs44 has replaced Foxcastle

Ahahaha. Oh lord, poor Squigs with all these pages

[Jamiet99uk]

Welcome, Squigs.

[e.m.c^42]

if theres 2 docs. and both town. then there may be a 3p arsonist who is out there dousing ppl. thats a countermeasure to an imbalance of town protectives

That's plausible. Is there such a thing as a doc that doesn't save from NK but does clear some other type of effect?

[BunnyGo]

Brain, I don't see how you can simultaneously think I'm a Cult Leader and foodcoats is scum, while both of us have acknowledged (as has EMC) that we're all in a QT together.

Either we're all cultists, or none of us are.

Your logic makes no sense because it comes from a place of scum-perspective.

Is my case.

What Chaqa is saying makes sense to me.

He can't be a cult leader who somehow also has a separate "neighbour" QT he can invite people to without recruiting them to his cult. That would be madness.

EMC
IS
CULT LEADER
HE RECRUITED CHAQA
NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND

and I dont care
im a dead man. im dying. there will be 170 voters on me. just stop

STOP

im tired of it. youre clearly cult with emc and chaqa and I dont even give a shit.its beyond obvious. you 3 are a TEAM.

I wanna find SCUM
not your cult. ive already found you 3. I dont give a rats ass

This is an interesting take. In normal mafia rules do recruits keep powers? As reavers we didn’t.

[flash2015]

Ok, my main question to you Flash - why give up on pushing massclaim? Especially now, when a good half/maybe more have already done so either explicitly or implied.

What changed for you?

I was floating it because I was frustrated how the first day (and night) turned out. We effectively learnt very little.

I don't think anything has really changed. I was laying low for a while (not to get lynched, not to get NK) in the hope that I would be able to catch a scum by guessing right...but the laying low part was dashed when you and Chaqa decided to target me.

If others are onboard, I am fine with mass claim now, especially since there are already so many roles out in the open (including mine).