M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Nephthys]

CULTING:
-Culting is done by a majority vote in the CULT QT. The Cult begins the game with two CULT LEADERS. The CULT LEADERS must agree on the player target for the night phase. The voting threshold must be 51% or greater. That means at least one CULT LEADER must have a vote on a player target. If the vote is split between CULT LEADERS then the players must resolve this before the end of the night phase. All CULT LEADERS and the MEMBERS they recruited will visit the player target. If a CULT LEADER does not vote then they (and any members they recruited) will not visit the player target.

CULTING EFFECTS:
-Almost anyone can join the cult. When the cult ‘cult’ somebody, they join the cult QT from the next night onwards.
-Anyone converted by the cult will become a CULT MEMBER which is different from a CULT LEADER. They will join the CULT LEADER on all subsequent night conversions. They will be given access to the CULT QT, but lose access to their previous QT (if they had one).
-If the cult ‘cults’ a town PR; that PR loses its PR abilities and joins the CULT QT from the next night onwards as a cult member.
-If the cult ‘cults’ a traitor; then that traitor becomes a cult member and joins the CULT QT from the next night onwards as a cult member.
If the cult ‘cults’ a Mason; then the mason becomes a cult member and joins the CULT QT from the next night onwards. However, the conversion of a mason is a laborious affair and the cult will be unable to convert the following night.
If the cult ‘cults’ a Mafia PR; then the Mafia PR becomes a cult member and joins the CULT QT from the next onwards. However, the Mafia Ninja is immune to any cult conversion attempts.
Additional Rule: If the masons target a cult leader then the cult leader and every member they recruited DIES. If the masons target a cult member then just the cult member DIES.



FROM M16

I mean something like that would certainly add a lot more Blanca’s with al the roles

[brainbomb]

Heres what happened

EMC is a cult leader
and maybe Neph is the other actually

Jamie got culted
and Jamie was scum jailor
Jamie jailed flash
and then joined cult QT and got vanillized. but jailing occurs before culting in order of operations.

Jamie tells emc who he jailed, so emc knows exactly who to claim he tracked

[Nephthys]

*balance

[BunnyGo]

Brain, I don't see how you can simultaneously think I'm a Cult Leader and foodcoats is scum, while both of us have acknowledged (as has EMC) that we're all in a QT together.

Either we're all cultists, or none of us are.

Your logic makes no sense because it comes from a place of scum-perspective.

Is my case.

Oh cool. People have considered him a cult leader before.

[Nephthys]

Heres what happened

EMC is a cult leader
and maybe Neph is the other actually

Jamie got culted
and Jamie was scum jailor
Jamie jailed flash
and then joined cult QT and got vanillized. but jailing occurs before culting in order of operations.

Jamie tells emc who he jailed, so emc knows exactly who to claim he tracked

But your post just said people lose their abilities...

[e.m.c^42]

I do not think reading alignment into why worcej let me live instead of modkilling me is a good idea. In fact, it is a very poor idea.

its not the only reason. I do think that you are cult based on how hard you fought to stay alive. I know youve turned over a new leaf on effort. but not that far. and no way would you fight that hard as a meaningless low power tracker role

My activity is linked to my available time, not alignment lol. Feel free to check with bot. Also I've ditched paragraphs which boosted count a lot.

[brainbomb]

Heres what happened

EMC is a cult leader
and maybe Neph is the other actually

Jamie got culted
and Jamie was scum jailor
Jamie jailed flash
and then joined cult QT and got vanillized. but jailing occurs before culting in order of operations.

Jamie tells emc who he jailed, so emc knows exactly who to claim he tracked

But your post just said people lose their abilities...

Order of Operations

We know it goes like this
LightningRod
Jailing
Culting
Doctors
Invests

So jamie can jail someone and then get vanillized after

[BunnyGo]

Y’all do realise that flash and food almost have to be opposite alignments.

A watcher and a LR on the same team is objectively gamebreaking

*I* realize nothing of the sort. Can you please elaborate with detailed reasoning? Thank you!

It confirms every PR in the game and the NK
N1 the scum doing the NK won’t be using other powers, therefore is likely to have a non-active role.

Without fake claims that means they’re caught.

Also, all the PRs....

Watcher gets told more than just who visited whom?

[e.m.c^42]

Heres what happened

EMC is a cult leader
and maybe Neph is the other actually

Jamie got culted
and Jamie was scum jailor
Jamie jailed flash
and then joined cult QT and got vanillized. but jailing occurs before culting in order of operations.

Jamie tells emc who he jailed, so emc knows exactly who to claim he tracked

Here is the problem with that. Jamie only knows that he jailed xorxes. How do I know that flash was the one to visit xorxes?

[brainbomb]

I do not think reading alignment into why worcej let me live instead of modkilling me is a good idea. In fact, it is a very poor idea.

its not the only reason. I do think that you are cult based on how hard you fought to stay alive. I know youve turned over a new leaf on effort. but not that far. and no way would you fight that hard as a meaningless low power tracker role

My activity is linked to my available time, not alignment lol. Feel free to check with bot. Also I've ditched paragraphs which boosted count a lot.

I dont buy that. you fought hard as nails to stay alive and even risked rule violations to try to prove your innocence. 300 posts from you as town would be like me admitting when im wrong

[Jamiet99uk]

The reason i beleive you were spared D2 from modkill is also why I beleive you are cult leader. I beleive your death wouldve eliminated an entire faction from this game. which I think the Gm isnt willing to do.

You really shouldn't base conclusions on whether the GM did or did not make a decision based on a rules matter which is outside of gameplay.

Second guessing the GM like that is just really poor conduct. It calls the integrity of the game into question. Please don't.

[brainbomb]

Heres what happened

EMC is a cult leader
and maybe Neph is the other actually

Jamie got culted
and Jamie was scum jailor
Jamie jailed flash
and then joined cult QT and got vanillized. but jailing occurs before culting in order of operations.

Jamie tells emc who he jailed, so emc knows exactly who to claim he tracked

Here is the problem with that. Jamie only knows that he jailed xorxes. How do I know that flash was the one to visit xorxes?

hmmmm

I guess maybe foodcoats used a power and told you he tracked flash? I would need food to claim all his powers. he said hes lightning thrower but he could be a scum JOAT.

Again, if jamie is scum jailor he told you the whole scumteam and scum knows jamie is no longer one of theirs.

But scum isnt gonna start open claiming in the game thread that jamie is no longer in wolf chat.

[brainbomb]

The reason i beleive you were spared D2 from modkill is also why I beleive you are cult leader. I beleive your death wouldve eliminated an entire faction from this game. which I think the Gm isnt willing to do.

You really shouldn't base conclusions on whether the GM did or did not make a decision based on a rules matter which is outside of gameplay.

Second guessing the GM like that is just really poor conduct. It calls the integrity of the game into question. Please don't.

Im basing it on his volume. and to be clear I argued on EMCs behalf to not be modkilled. Do not lecture me. My read on emc is influenced by him being allowed to live, but no moreso than the fact he was a 10 wagon and the fact he posted 300 times.

[Jamiet99uk]

this game has been super weird with giant wagon pileups


a 15 wagon day 1 with 6 vanity
a 10 wagon and a 9 wagon day 2 with 1 vanity? and vecna voting in final 5 min, bisnark in final 10 min

today its no different. none of this discussion matters. ill be a 14-18 sized wagon by end of day and there wont even be a cw probably. and that makes this game swingy and to towns detriment. variety is scums fear. variety means higher odds of scum having to bus. and higher odds scum wagons form

cw?

Counter-Wagon

Come on Damo, did you leave your Mafia Dictionary on the bus?

[brainbomb]

Its fairly obvious to me that you arents a tracker for alot of reasons. I cant verify how you pulled it off, or guessed perfectly. but its weird you didnt track me or jamie as everyone wanted.

and you chose flash, which makes absolutely no sense at all

[e.m.c^42]

its not the only reason. I do think that you are cult based on how hard you fought to stay alive. I know youve turned over a new leaf on effort. but not that far. and no way would you fight that hard as a meaningless low power tracker role

My activity is linked to my available time, not alignment lol. Feel free to check with bot. Also I've ditched paragraphs which boosted count a lot.

I dont buy that. you fought hard as nails to stay alive and even risked rule violations to try to prove your innocence. 300 posts from you as town would be like me admitting when im wrong

Hah! To be fair, I didn't think I was violating any rules at the time due to a misconception. I do agree that it was an anomaly that I reached that post count, since usually if I'm actually active I hover at around a little more than 100.

I guess, blame the fact that I got caught up in a back-forth with xorx lol

[Chaqa]

Its fairly obvious to me that you arents a tracker for alot of reasons. I cant verify how you pulled it off, or guessed perfectly. but its weird you didnt track me or jamie as everyone wanted.

and you chose flash, which makes absolutely no sense at all

I chose flash. I directed his track.

Originally it was to be Bozo. I told him to change it at like 5 AM before the night ended lol

If you'd been reading, this would all be knowledge everyone else had forever ago.

There is no Cult.

[Jamiet99uk]

Heres what happened

EMC is a cult leader
and maybe Neph is the other actually

Jamie got culted

Incorrect.

and Jamie was scum jailor

I was not.

Jamie jailed flash
and then joined cult QT and got vanillized. but jailing occurs before culting in order of operations.

I did not.

Jamie tells emc who he jailed, so emc knows exactly who to claim he tracked

Incorrect.

[brainbomb]

JAMIE was SCUM JAILOR, became CULT MEMBER
NEPH is a CULT LEADER
EMC is a CULT LEADER

FOODCOATS is a SCUM JOAT or SCUM DEVELOPER

DemonRHK is maybe a real town doctor and there are 2 town doctors but its also possible RHK is just some other scum role and wanted to undermine my claim

VECNA probably is a veteran but it can easily be a scum role given this setup and his play.

Chaqa is probably a neighborizer as he claimed, but its possible he got Culted somehow, or there is an alliance among scum and cult.

it isnt unheard of for scum and cult to ally to rid town from contention

[Chaqa]

I wonder if it's against the rules to link to the Neighborhood Watch thread here. A strict reading of the rules would say yes lol