M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

Brain and Demon have both claimed town doctor, as has someone I added to my QT. EMC is either the Town Tracker inherited from Donny, or a scum role inherited from Donny, though more likely town. Food and Vecna are likely town, but food *could* be scum and Vecna *could* be some sort of 3P, though I think both are town.

There's a third Doc claim?!?

Ah, the third person is claiming a *protective* role, not specifically doctor.

To be precise.

Specifically, something in this category:

doctor's kit / vest (for other) / other protective

[brainbomb]

Dude... I don't understand.

It has nothing to do with you as a person.

Not only do I have no strong views on you as a person, I literally do not think of you in any way outside of mafia

Within the game of mafia, you have a habit of a playstyle that involves routine fake claims, lies, and playing like you are three people in one account. That is your playstyle. If you don't like that, change it.

I am
I have
I did

this is that person. this is the person you are refusing to acknowledge.

[BunnyGo]

Did you lie that he’d claimed?

Care to clue me in on a summary of the 200 pages?

Sure. In a pretty condensed format:

Day 1 - we lynched Donny due to a supposed scumslip caught by Vecna, but he flipped as [REDACTED]. He had claimed Town Tracker just before death. This was later claimed to be due to EMC's role, which was a 3P Universal Backup who janitors and takes the role & alignment of the first person to die.

Night 1 - no one died. This is 99.9% due to a lightning rod, which has been proven to be foodcoats, more or less. He activated, and then was subsequently jailed, although we do not know yet if it was a town jailer or scum jailer. Many people can at least confirm some part of this.

Day 2 - we lynched Bismarck, who was town JOAT.

Night 2 - kgray died visitng Vecnsa, who is some sort of a Veteran role (kills visitors). Marche was killed by the mafia, we suspect.

Additionally: I am a Neighborizer, and I can add people to a night QT during the day. Day 1 I added EMC, Day 2 I added foodcoats, Day 3 I added someone I have yet to reveal.

Brain and Demon have both claimed town doctor, as has someone I added to my QT. EMC is either the Town Tracker inherited from Donny, or a scum role inherited from Donny, though more likely town. Food and Vecna are likely town, but food *could* be scum and Vecna *could* be some sort of 3P, though I think both are town.

Jamie has some sort of visiting role.

Currently there is a wagon forming on brain for a variety of reasons. I have a case as to why I'm voting for him at the top of a page awhile back.

How has EMC proved any of this? Has he verified for you in your chat that he’s the tracker?

How do we know how kgray died?

What do you mean foodcoats was jailed?

Is food mechanically cleared now, but VT going forward?

Do we know there’s only one town doctor?

Why is Vecna likely town?! His killing kgray sounds like a pro-scum role if what I’m reading here is correct.

Why did you add EMC day 1?

Why is Jamie a visitor?

[Chaqa]

Dude... I don't understand.

It has nothing to do with you as a person.

Not only do I have no strong views on you as a person, I literally do not think of you in any way outside of mafia

Within the game of mafia, you have a habit of a playstyle that involves routine fake claims, lies, and playing like you are three people in one account. That is your playstyle. If you don't like that, change it.

I am
I have
I did

this is that person. this is the person you are refusing to acknowledge.

So then you simultaneously are a doctor, an omniscient, and all the other roles you've softed this game?

Hey, maybe I'm wrong and you are the Doctor. If that turns out to be true, next time we play I'll have a datapoint to counter your past meta. But for now, the most likely explanation I have is that you're mafia.

[BunnyGo]

There's a third Doc claim?!?

Ah, the third person is claiming a *protective* role, not specifically doctor.

To be precise.

Specifically, something in this category:

doctor's kit / vest (for other) / other protective

Could it have been gifted from a maker?

[brainbomb]

Dude... I don't understand.

It has nothing to do with you as a person.

Not only do I have no strong views on you as a person, I literally do not think of you in any way outside of mafia

Within the game of mafia, you have a habit of a playstyle that involves routine fake claims, lies, and playing like you are three people in one account. That is your playstyle. If you don't like that, change it.

I am
I have
I did

this is that person. this is the person you are refusing to acknowledge.

So then you simultaneously are a doctor, an omniscient, and all the other roles you've softed this game?

Hey, maybe I'm wrong and you are the Doctor. If that turns out to be true, next time we play I'll have a datapoint to counter your past meta. But for now, the most likely explanation I have is that you're mafia.

I was watchinh star trek TNG episodes with Q. and loved his quotes. had nothing to do with my role. what was I supposed to do, crumb pictures of medical equipment and ventilatots

[brainbomb]

I wasnt gonna soft my real role. what purpose would it serve to putting real crumbs out there to telegraph myself. id just fuckin die

[BunnyGo]

So we’re allowed to upvote ALL posts? Have people debated yet that this is possibly a 3P goal like the alphabetical reavers?

Yes, that has been debated.

Also, welcome.

Also also, get your stinkin' vote off me.

Did people agree to have ALL posts for a day/night end on 0 votes? Did we agree to have ALL votes for a day/night end on 3? Or4? We should totally do this.

[brainbomb]

my goal when I crumb things or joke around is to keep mafia confused about what U am. not necessarily bait kills but be distracting. make them waste time hypothesizing in maf chat. time they could spend elsewhere.

[flash2015]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-into-bag-ye ... f-15383267

[Chaqa]

Care to clue me in on a summary of the 200 pages?

Sure. In a pretty condensed format:

Day 1 - we lynched Donny due to a supposed scumslip caught by Vecna, but he flipped as [REDACTED]. He had claimed Town Tracker just before death. This was later claimed to be due to EMC's role, which was a 3P Universal Backup who janitors and takes the role & alignment of the first person to die.

Night 1 - no one died. This is 99.9% due to a lightning rod, which has been proven to be foodcoats, more or less. He activated, and then was subsequently jailed, although we do not know yet if it was a town jailer or scum jailer. Many people can at least confirm some part of this.

Day 2 - we lynched Bismarck, who was town JOAT.

Night 2 - kgray died visitng Vecnsa, who is some sort of a Veteran role (kills visitors). Marche was killed by the mafia, we suspect.

Additionally: I am a Neighborizer, and I can add people to a night QT during the day. Day 1 I added EMC, Day 2 I added foodcoats, Day 3 I added someone I have yet to reveal.

Brain and Demon have both claimed town doctor, as has someone I added to my QT. EMC is either the Town Tracker inherited from Donny, or a scum role inherited from Donny, though more likely town. Food and Vecna are likely town, but food *could* be scum and Vecna *could* be some sort of 3P, though I think both are town.

Jamie has some sort of visiting role.

Currently there is a wagon forming on brain for a variety of reasons. I have a case as to why I'm voting for him at the top of a page awhile back.

How has EMC proved any of this? Has he verified for you in your chat that he’s the tracker?

How do we know how kgray died?

What do you mean foodcoats was jailed?

Is food mechanically cleared now, but VT going forward?

Do we know there’s only one town doctor?

Why is Vecna likely town?! His killing kgray sounds like a pro-scum role if what I’m reading here is correct.

Why did you add EMC day 1?

Why is Jamie a visitor?

EMC's Night 1 and Night 2 results matched with the expected results. On Night 1, he received the same message as others whose actions failed due to food being simultaneously lightning rod + jailed. I'm reasonably comfortable with it for now.

Kgray's death implication is based largely on flavor, which I'm not crazy about. I don't think Vecna has confirmed if he knows he shot anyone (or how many).

Food was jailed Night 1. Xorxes was jailed Night 2. We don't know if the Jailer is town-aligned or scum-aligned. Jailed here meaning no actions can reach them. basically doc save but stronger.

Vecna is a town role called Army Veteran. Look it up.

Jamie said he is a visitor, and had the same message Night 1 as others.

As for why I added EMC... I basically didn't mean to. I put him in as a temporary order as I had a mild townread on him, but turned out to be instantaneous and I wound up with him lol

[Chaqa]

Ah, the third person is claiming a *protective* role, not specifically doctor.

To be precise.

Specifically, something in this category:

doctor's kit / vest (for other) / other protective

Could it have been gifted from a maker?

In this instance, no. The instructions I left for them how to relay it in code were pretty clear.

[brainbomb]

the reason it makes no sense is because its supposed to make no sense. this is really about making scum waste time wondering.

[Jamiet99uk]

So we’re allowed to upvote ALL posts? Have people debated yet that this is possibly a 3P goal like the alphabetical reavers?

Yes, that has been debated.

Also, welcome.

Also also, get your stinkin' vote off me.

Did people agree to have ALL posts for a day/night end on 0 votes? Did we agree to have ALL votes for a day/night end on 3? Or4? We should totally do this.

I managed to persuade Chaqa and EMC to stop hitting "+1" for a substantial part of Day two. We pretty much know that Chaqa's neighbour power does not actually require +1's to activate (unless EMC, Foodcoats, and a third person are all conspiring to cover for him).

[BunnyGo]

How does “jail” work. Is it protective? Restrictive?

[Chaqa]

I am
I have
I did

this is that person. this is the person you are refusing to acknowledge.

So then you simultaneously are a doctor, an omniscient, and all the other roles you've softed this game?

Hey, maybe I'm wrong and you are the Doctor. If that turns out to be true, next time we play I'll have a datapoint to counter your past meta. But for now, the most likely explanation I have is that you're mafia.

I was watchinh star trek TNG episodes with Q. and loved his quotes. had nothing to do with my role. what was I supposed to do, crumb pictures of medical equipment and ventilatots

I dunno. My crumbs are usually something that you wouldn't immediately pick up on but make sense in retrospect. See me calling myself Tom Hanks in reference to him playing Mister Rogers in "Won't you be my neighbor?"

[Chaqa]

I wasnt gonna soft my real role. what purpose would it serve to putting real crumbs out there to telegraph myself. id just fuckin die

Fake soft/fake claims just cause confusion to town in 90% of times

[BunnyGo]

Does the flavor tell us xorxes was jailed?

[brainbomb]

once again
are we done here

can I just die in peace and you can bitch and moan about how it was my fualt and that I played it wrong and lied to much. quoting stuff from star trek was unforgiveable

[Vecna]

it pretty much commutes and roleblocks its target