M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[DemonRHK]

The fact that everyone gets to know who the LB was and that he wasnt reachable also really works in favour of the omniscience role, so scum gets more information if they use it N1

This is also why brainbomb was so happy to out what he knew daystart of D2

He's playing this in such a way to make it credible hes a town omniscience. Little tads here and there about massclaim.

But we know that a town omniscience wouldnt really be a thing anymore, because of the massclaim boredom gamesolve.

This theory falls flat, everyone's actions failed N1 due to Jailor and would have received some variant of 'can't be found'

[Vecna]

Also, even if brain was that role, it only gives a copy of PMs, claiming Doc without knowing that PM was the right one is a hell of a gamble.

Its part of his chaotic play.

He gets you to out

Afterwards he just goes on to claim that he was just trying to draw a NK, was trying to roleswap, whatever sounds plausible in his mind.

This is how he plays as scum. He LOVES to pull off these big moves and try and get away with it.

Id think this was common knowledge by now for those who've played with him for a long time.

[rdrivera2005]

Really interesting this doc, I see a lot of the claimed or flipped roles were in this document.
So, contrary to others, you think the roles are AI?

Thats not my argument at all.

Im detailling brainbombs scumploy for this game

You guys didnt even realize he just got our towndoc to out with information the scum has gotten from that role

This conflicts with Xorxes' Jailer Demon theory. Which is more likely?

Looks like today's lynch is brain v Demon

Only if we don't believe we can have two town doctors. But it would be weird. Let's wait for Brain, but at this point I tend to believe Demon for his reaction after Brain claim.

[damo666]

Scumteam:

Omniscient role
Tracker
Jailkeep
Strongman?

Works really well together to navigate a setup and work out what everyone is

Brain Bozo Neph Sarah?

[xorxes]

Scumteam:

Omniscient role
Tracker
Jailkeep
Strongman?

Works really well together to navigate a setup and work out what everyone is

Probably no strongman because it is not a claimable role, and it appears that scum all have claimable roles.

[Vecna]

The fact that everyone gets to know who the LB was and that he wasnt reachable also really works in favour of the omniscience role, so scum gets more information if they use it N1

This is also why brainbomb was so happy to out what he knew daystart of D2

He's playing this in such a way to make it credible hes a town omniscience. Little tads here and there about massclaim.

But we know that a town omniscience wouldnt really be a thing anymore, because of the massclaim boredom gamesolve.

This theory falls flat, everyone's actions failed N1 due to Jailor and would have received some variant of 'can't be found'

Thats why im saying, that if we lynch brainbomb and he flips scum, it confirms foodcoats is scum with him, because he knew to use it N2 instead of N1

[Vecna]

That is, RHK - if you got the message N2 that confirms that syntax and not on N1 somehow

[Jamiet99uk]

FWIW, I am still in the line of thinking brain is absolutely a Doc as well.

One town one scum I assume?

More likely town and 3rd, or double town. How in the fuck would a scum Doc even work?

A scum Doc can save his scum mates from Vigilantes and suchlike.

[damo666]

Thats not my argument at all.

Im detailling brainbombs scumploy for this game

You guys didnt even realize he just got our towndoc to out with information the scum has gotten from that role

This conflicts with Xorxes' Jailer Demon theory. Which is more likely?

Looks like today's lynch is brain v Demon

Only if we don't believe we can have two town doctors. But it would be weird. Let's wait for Brain, but at this point I tend to believe Demon for his reaction after Brain claim.

I certainly believe there are not 2 town doctors. Worcej is too fond of role varieties to double up.

[xorxes]

Scumteam:

Omniscient role
Tracker
Jailkeep
Strongman?

Works really well together to navigate a setup and work out what everyone is

Brain Bozo Neph Sarah?

How can the Tracker be anyone other than emc?

[Jamiet99uk]

What are the chances of there being three protective roles in play?

[Vecna]

Scumteam:

Omniscient role
Tracker
Jailkeep
Strongman?

Works really well together to navigate a setup and work out what everyone is

Update after thinking about it some more:

Scumteam:

Omniscient
Tracker
Secretary
Jailkeep
And potentially one more for a 5th. How many players we started with again?

Donny was scum. EMC is scum tracker now. Brainbomb is omniscient.

Neph maybe secretary?
Flash maybe Jailkeep?

+ maybe the 5th member

[Jamiet99uk]

And potentially one more for a 5th. How many players we started with again?

21

[Vecna]

Yeah ok, so 15v5v1 could work just fine in this setup

[DemonRHK]

N1 I got a message I can't find foodcoats.
N2 I got a message Chaqa wasn't in need of my services.

[xorxes]

Scumteam:

Omniscient role
Tracker
Jailkeep
Strongman?

Works really well together to navigate a setup and work out what everyone is

Update after thinking about it some more:

Scumteam:

Omniscient
Tracker
Secretary
Jailkeep
And potentially one more for a 5th. How many players we started with again?

Donny was scum. EMC is scum tracker now. Brainbomb is omniscient.

Neph maybe secretary?
Flash maybe Jailkeep?

+ maybe the 5th member

Your theory requires scum to have come up with very convoluted lies. I think scum try to keep things simple as much as possible. I believe flash indeed tried to visit me, and emc reported his track result accurately.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why would there be a third party Doctor?

That doesn't make a lot of sense, DemonRHK.

[DemonRHK]

Why would there be a third party Doctor?

That doesn't make a lot of sense, DemonRHK.

Hard to say, may have an alt standalone wincon? Would make sense with how action processing specifically has a town>scum>3rd order.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why would there be a third party Doctor?

That doesn't make a lot of sense, DemonRHK.

Hard to say, may have an alt standalone wincon? Would make sense with how action processing specifically has a town>scum>3rd order.

And what if there are more than two?

[xorxes]

One problem with my theory that scum all have claimable roles is that Secretary is not claimable, so I would have to abandon my scumread of Donny if that's the case...