M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[damo666]

FWIW, I am still in the line of thinking brain is absolutely a Doc as well.

One town one scum I assume?

[xorxes]

@Xorxes - I think youre reasoning wrongly.

There might be an order of adjudication in the rules section, but role pm's can have different rules for that.

My role pm also very clearly says it behaves differently, and adjudicates BEFORE everything else.

What ability-type is it classed as?

[damo666]

So Jailor and LR must be different alignments, yeah?

So why not disclose who you think Jailor is then? We'd have a 50% chance of a scumkill tonight (more if we think J more likely scum than LR) and a 100% certainty of a scumkil today or tomorrow.

I think it's obvious by now, so DemonRHK.

Jailor is both roleblocker and protective. From his protective part he must have known that I was not attacked and therefore did not need his protection, which allowed him to confirm brain's wording.

But really we should hear what he has to say first.

Ok thanks. Be interesting to read Demon's response.

[Vecna]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ghn ... F3MoU/edit

So ctrl + F for interceptor. Thats the role that brain was softing. Omniscient and dreamer are combinations of words that usually work in conjunction to have that sort of effect.

It was concluded after that game that that role was too OP for town in most situations, since it allows them to break the game with a massclaim.

No reason not to give it to scum so they have the tools to navigate a role madness game. Quite good GM design even, id say.

Really interesting this doc, I see a lot of the claimed or flipped roles were in this document.
So, contrary to others, you think the roles are AI?

Thats not my argument at all.

Im detailling brainbombs scumploy for this game

You guys didnt even realize he just got our towndoc to out with information the scum has gotten from that role

[damo666]

@Xorxes - I think youre reasoning wrongly.

There might be an order of adjudication in the rules section, but role pm's can have different rules for that.

My role pm also very clearly says it behaves differently, and adjudicates BEFORE everything else.

What ability-type is it classed as?

Post #2 pt7 probably relevant

[Vecna]

FWIW, I am still in the line of thinking brain is absolutely a Doc as well.

He is scum that is going to claim that he was just trying to draw the NK

[DemonRHK]

FWIW, I am still in the line of thinking brain is absolutely a Doc as well.

One town one scum I assume?

More likely town and 3rd, or double town. How in the fuck would a scum Doc even work?

[Vecna]

@Xorxes - I think youre reasoning wrongly.

There might be an order of adjudication in the rules section, but role pm's can have different rules for that.

My role pm also very clearly says it behaves differently, and adjudicates BEFORE everything else.

What ability-type is it classed as?

This is what im telling you. It is not classified as anything

It just goes _FIRST_

[damo666]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ghn ... F3MoU/edit

So ctrl + F for interceptor. Thats the role that brain was softing. Omniscient and dreamer are combinations of words that usually work in conjunction to have that sort of effect.

It was concluded after that game that that role was too OP for town in most situations, since it allows them to break the game with a massclaim.

No reason not to give it to scum so they have the tools to navigate a role madness game. Quite good GM design even, id say.

Really interesting this doc, I see a lot of the claimed or flipped roles were in this document.
So, contrary to others, you think the roles are AI?

Thats not my argument at all.

Im detailling brainbombs scumploy for this game

You guys didnt even realize he just got our towndoc to out with information the scum has gotten from that role

This conflicts with Xorxes' Jailer Demon theory. Which is more likely?

Looks like today's lynch is brain v Demon

[xorxes]

@Xorxes - I think youre reasoning wrongly.

There might be an order of adjudication in the rules section, but role pm's can have different rules for that.

My role pm also very clearly says it behaves differently, and adjudicates BEFORE everything else.

What ability-type is it classed as?

This is what im telling you. It is not classified as anything

It just goes _FIRST_

So it is different to food's role, which is classified as roleblocker-type.

So Jailor is scum, and I think RHK is the Jailor.

[damo666]

FWIW, I am still in the line of thinking brain is absolutely a Doc as well.

One town one scum I assume?

More likely town and 3rd, or double town. How in the fuck would a scum Doc even work?

Much more likely that you have it wrong and brain is faking or you are lying.

[Vecna]

RHK is the real town doc Xorxes. Keep up

[Vecna]

Scumteam:

Omniscient role
Tracker
Jailkeep
Strongman?

Works really well together to navigate a setup and work out what everyone is

[damo666]

RHK is the real town doc Xorxes. Keep up

So who is Jailer?

[Vecna]

How should I know?

[damo666]

@Vecna am I right in saying your ability is spent and you are now effectively VT. I think you implied this but cannot find it.

[DemonRHK]

Also, even if brain was that role, it only gives a copy of PMs, claiming Doc without knowing that PM was the right one is a hell of a gamble.

[Vecna]

The fact that everyone gets to know who the LB was and that he wasnt reachable also really works in favour of the omniscience role, so scum gets more information if they use it N1

This is also why brainbomb was so happy to out what he knew daystart of D2

He's playing this in such a way to make it credible hes a town omniscience. Little tads here and there about massclaim.

But we know that a town omniscience wouldnt really be a thing anymore, because of the massclaim boredom gamesolve.

[Vecna]

@Vecna am I right in saying your ability is spent and you are now effectively VT. I think you implied this but cannot find it.

Yes its spent

[Vecna]

so ill probably die tonight, but thats fine

Let them fearkill me with all these PRs still around