M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[xorxes]

Why tracker=> watcher? Most unlike a meticulous Xorxes. What gives?

What's your theory?

You're sending a message to Chaqa?

So you're asking if I'm the Watcher? I'm not.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Chaqa: How sure are you that Foodcoats is town?

On a scale of A to F, where A is "totally assured" and F is "really worried he's actually scum".

B-

Okay.

On that basis I'm not sure I can take the risk yet. Is that ok?

[Chaqa]

What do you think?

Xorxes you are being odd. Whether you believe his Tracker claim or not, he has used the word "Tracker" consistently. I never saw him claim Watcher.

Do you have some new information? Was there something written on the wall of your cell?

Yes, there was, but I will only tell what it was to Chaqa when he invites me to his secret room. It is not something that everyone should hear.

Well, I already invited someone to my secret room today, unfortunately, and it was not you because you were being shady.

[bozotheclown]

So the main reason you don't think emc is scum is that you don't think there's a Mafia Tracker, would that be correct?

You think it is more likely that Donny was town than that there is a Mafia Tracker. So your scumread of Donny was relatively weak, then?

You are misrepresenting what I said. If I said I was sure emc would claim tracker if it is a scum role and he is scum, then "the main reason you don't think emc is scum is that you don't think there's a Mafia Tracker" would be true. However, that is not what I said, I said it was possible he would.

Can you explain then what is the main reason you think he is town? It is pretty clear now that he is indeed Watcher, which means that his 3P conversion story is likely true. So he has not been lying about anything mechanical except perhaps his alignment, which I think makes perfect sense as either alignment.

Do you think Donny was more likely town or scum watcher?

I don't think we can use people's roles as the main basis for reading their alignment, because pretty much any role could be any alignment as far as we know. It seems very unlikely now that Mafia won't claim their true role.

I just don't see why emc would go about things the way he did if his plan was to claim town tracker when he was really a scum tracker. Was he counting on Chaqa leaking the information to make him look more town for trying to keep his tracking ability hidden?

As for Donny, his secretary reference looked like a scum slip, but maybe it was just bad luck.

If there really is a doctor, I do not think it is likely the roles were assigned completely randomly among town and scum. It is possible most of the roles were assigned randomly, in which case we should not assume Lightning Rod and Neighborizer (as well as Tracker) are sure to be town roles.

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa: How sure are you that Foodcoats is town?

On a scale of A to F, where A is "totally assured" and F is "really worried he's actually scum".

B-

Okay.

On that basis I'm not sure I can take the risk yet. Is that ok?

I mean, I would prefer you did, but meh.

[Chaqa]

The way things have gone, I just really don't see how Food or EMC is scum.

There's absolutely no reason for mafia to have or use a lightning rod.

[xorxes]

Xorxes darling

You make my head say different things than my heart. I'm torn, man, I'm torn aboutcha

Same here, but I listen more to my head.

[Chaqa]

TBH, if the Jailer is town, they should claim, as it would really improve out knowledge. The fact this hasn't been discussed and we've had no roleblocks makes me think the Jailer is scum.

[e.m.c^42]

Xorxes darling

You make my head say different things than my heart. I'm torn, man, I'm torn aboutcha

Same here, but I listen more to my head.

Then I will listen to my heart :)

[bozotheclown]

Was that the exact wording brain?

It said summit was not in need of my services

I now have brain as conf town and will follow him to the grave.

So I assume DemonRHK is claiming he has a protective role, tried to protect someone, and received a message stating his target was "was not in need of my services".

Does everyone believe this?

summit_fever, Nephthys, and Vecna: You are voting for brainbomb. If you think brainbomb is scum, do you think DemonRHK is scum as well, trying to cover for brainbomb?

[Chaqa]

I would take "was not in need of services" to mean the target wasn't attacked.

[xorxes]

Xorxes you are being odd. Whether you believe his Tracker claim or not, he has used the word "Tracker" consistently. I never saw him claim Watcher.

Do you have some new information? Was there something written on the wall of your cell?

Yes, there was, but I will only tell what it was to Chaqa when he invites me to his secret room. It is not something that everyone should hear.

Are you suggesting that the Jailor was able to communicate with you?

Wow, that's one powerful fucking role.

Sigh. No, I'm not suggesting that. I thought your question was in jest and I answered in jest. Sorry about the confusion. I could not believe you were serious about the Tracker/Watcher switch too.

[foodcoats]

You are misrepresenting what I said. If I said I was sure emc would claim tracker if it is a scum role and he is scum, then "the main reason you don't think emc is scum is that you don't think there's a Mafia Tracker" would be true. However, that is not what I said, I said it was possible he would.

Can you explain then what is the main reason you think he is town? It is pretty clear now that he is indeed Watcher, which means that his 3P conversion story is likely true. So he has not been lying about anything mechanical except perhaps his alignment, which I think makes perfect sense as either alignment.

Do you think Donny was more likely town or scum watcher?

I don't think we can use people's roles as the main basis for reading their alignment, because pretty much any role could be any alignment as far as we know. It seems very unlikely now that Mafia won't claim their true role.

I just don't see why emc would go about things the way he did if his plan was to claim town tracker when he was really a scum tracker. Was he counting on Chaqa leaking the information to make him look more town for trying to keep his tracking ability hidden?

As for Donny, his secretary reference looked like a scum slip, but maybe it was just bad luck.

If there really is a doctor, I do not think it is likely the roles were assigned completely randomly among town and scum. It is possible most of the roles were assigned randomly, in which case we should not assume Lightning Rod and Neighborizer (as well as Tracker) are sure to be town roles.

bozo, what do you make of the fact that this very sane, rational position you have laid out is apparently not something xorxes can understand? Do you think he is trying to sow chaos?

[damo666]

Xorxes is 3p

[xorxes]

Xorxes you are being odd. Whether you believe his Tracker claim or not, he has used the word "Tracker" consistently. I never saw him claim Watcher.

Do you have some new information? Was there something written on the wall of your cell?

Yes, there was, but I will only tell what it was to Chaqa when he invites me to his secret room. It is not something that everyone should hear.

Well, I already invited someone to my secret room today, unfortunately, and it was not you because you were being shady.

That's ok, I was only joking. Oddly enough, you inviting me in would make my role just slightly more powerful, but I'm not really asking you to. I have not been able to use it yet what with the Lightning Rod and Jailor shennanigans.

[damo666]

Galois

[foodcoats]

Xorxes is 3p

Im wondering if this is the case. Xorxes seems to be trying to undermine any efforts to build a town consensus.

[Chaqa]

Xorxes is 3p

I can see it.

[e.m.c^42]

Lost shepherd boy has found his crook! And given up on wooly, hoofed Sarah for the time being as it seems.

[bozotheclown]

The claims by flash and DemonRHK seem believable enough, although if flash was trying to NK xorxes and knew he was being tracked, he would have to claim a visiting role. The way he tested emc makes me think he is likely town, though. I am going to move Foxcastle and Nephthys to my scum suspects list:

Top scum suspects:
damo
dargorygel
Foxcastle
Nephthys
Sarah