M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3761 Post by xorxes » Sun May 03, 2020 3:56 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:38 pm
ok, im lost - maybe were not understanding eachother here.

can you quote the post? maybe im missing the obvious
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Sun May 03, 2020 12:38 am
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For brain to be scum, I think foodcoats needs to be scum. I can't make sense of his start of day otherwise.
Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?
If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.
Basically go reread start of D2 and explain to me what scum!brain was doing there.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3762 Post by Vecna » Sun May 03, 2020 4:00 pm

yeah, thats why I prefer quotes mixed in when people try to make such arguments. Its really hard to follow them otherwise, and its so tempting to gloss over them.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3763 Post by xorxes » Sun May 03, 2020 4:01 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:44 pm
I'm also starting to think xorx is just scumreading me in a fun scheme to increase survival for both of us :D
That would be fun, but no.

In case I die: my scumread of Donny/emc is fully genuine and not an act in any way.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3764 Post by Vecna » Sun May 03, 2020 4:02 pm

xorxes wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:56 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:38 pm
ok, im lost - maybe were not understanding eachother here.

can you quote the post? maybe im missing the obvious
xorxes wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 12:38 am
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 12:31 am


Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?
If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.
Basically go reread start of D2 and explain to me what scum!brain was doing there.
Why cant he just be scum with a visiting role (or doing the NK) though? He would also get the same message. Also be aware there was something stopping the redirected abilities from even reaching the target.

Theres even a small possibility the jailkeeper is scum and he purposefully played clueless by thinking a lightning rod could also have a commuting ability at the same time.

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#3765 Post by Vecna » Sun May 03, 2020 4:04 pm

is there a way to navigate to the daystart through the bot? seeing how there was no n1 death

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3766 Post by xorxes » Sun May 03, 2020 4:05 pm

kgray wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:47 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:37 pm
Nephthys wrote:
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@Fox
- What makes you think dargo is so towny?
1) It was just my read of him. He'd been active and engaged. Scum Dargo is way lurkier, as I recall.
Does anyone else think Dargo is being active and engaged? I certainly don't, and I have no idea why Fox thinks so.
Weird observation, yes.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3767 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:06 pm

Vecna wrote:
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is there a way to navigate to the daystart through the bot? seeing how there was no n1 death
Uh, you click the 90-94 "Messages for this phase" in Hisotry Day 2 and it's halfway down.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3768 Post by Vecna » Sun May 03, 2020 4:07 pm

I could vaguely see it somewhere, since scum dargo is really inactive, but that seems like such a weird reason for a read.

In other news: brainbomb also has had an unexplained townread on Dargo for quite some time.

Itd be delightfull if others would actually help me to pressure him sometimes to explain shit

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3769 Post by brainbomb » Sun May 03, 2020 4:08 pm

Anyone saying they wanna lymch me is probably not gonna get nightkilled.

I will use my action tonight so feel free to try to stop me

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#3770 Post by xorxes » Sun May 03, 2020 4:08 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:52 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:47 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 3:44 pm
I'm also starting to think xorx is just scumreading me in a fun scheme to increase survival for both of us :D
Scum would need some very interesting setup of roles to be able to kill you tonight ;)
Well, obviously more for him as the more he appears tunneling and not caring about other players, the more likely scum will leave him alive yanno? ;)
This sounds like you want to make sure I'm not protected tonight.

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#3771 Post by brainbomb » Sun May 03, 2020 4:09 pm

in order to play my role I have to think like scum and stay alive to lylo.

so thats why ive been dodgy and sporadic

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3772 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:09 pm

Obviously that's not how you're supposed to read it lmao

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3773 Post by brainbomb » Sun May 03, 2020 4:10 pm

most of you dont know what its like to dream
or to be omnipotent

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#3774 Post by Vecna » Sun May 03, 2020 4:11 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 4:09 pm
in order to play my role I have to think like scum and stay alive to lylo.

so thats why ive been dodgy and sporadic
sure buddy

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3775 Post by brainbomb » Sun May 03, 2020 4:11 pm

I wish I had multiple shots

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#3776 Post by Vecna » Sun May 03, 2020 4:11 pm

Ofcourse youre telling the truth, though, because that is how any scum role is meant to be played.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3777 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sun May 03, 2020 4:12 pm

brainbomb wrote:
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most of you dont know what its like to dream
or to be omnipotent
I've dreamt of Chipotle made out of Foxc, if that counts for anything.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3778 Post by brainbomb » Sun May 03, 2020 4:12 pm

What big plans do you have for me tomorrow

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3779 Post by brainbomb » Sun May 03, 2020 4:14 pm

the fact theres a jailor makes me think jailor isnt town

but IF jailor is town

it means theres a serial killer

because we already saw town had a joat with a 1 shot protective.
2 town protectives seems alot of save potential if its also a town jailor vs 1 scumteam no sk

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3780 Post by xorxes » Sun May 03, 2020 4:15 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 4:02 pm

Why cant he just be scum with a visiting role (or doing the NK) though? He would also get the same message. Also be aware there was something stopping the redirected abilities from even reaching the target.

Theres even a small possibility the jailkeeper is scum and he purposefully played clueless by thinking a lightning rod could also have a commuting ability at the same time.
Of course anything is possible. Much more likely though is that town!brain just blurted out his first hypothesis than that scum!brain did a very quick calculation of possible scenarios and found a way to look towny by faking a semi-clueless hypothesis.

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