M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[xorxes]

Yeah, brain has struck me as quite scummy this whole game. This is just the latest.

For brain to be scum, I think foodcoats needs to be scum. I can't make sense of his start of day otherwise.

[Jamiet99uk]

And then there's Bozo.

Bozo did at least list Bismarck as a scumread several times during D2. That's a point in his favour, I suppose.

But then there was this, 12 minutes before the deadline:

Bismarck, do you want to tell us you[sic] role?

Moments after this, Bismarck did claim his role.

There was no reaction from Bozo, who kept his vote right there on Bismarck.

Hmm.

@Bozo: You called on Bismarck to claim. He did so. Why did you keep your vote on him?

[Jamiet99uk]

Yeah, brain has struck me as quite scummy this whole game. This is just the latest.

For brain to be scum, I think foodcoats needs to be scum. I can't make sense of his start of day otherwise.

Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?

[xorxes]

Yeah, brain has struck me as quite scummy this whole game. This is just the latest.

For brain to be scum, I think foodcoats needs to be scum. I can't make sense of his start of day otherwise.

Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?

If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.

[Chaqa]

For brain to be scum, I think foodcoats needs to be scum. I can't make sense of his start of day otherwise.

Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?

If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.

I suppose there's little reason scum!Brain would relay this information to his teammates then and not wait until EoN. So brain is likely town unless they're both scum?

[xorxes]

Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?

If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.

I suppose there's little reason scum!Brain would relay this information to his teammates then and not wait until EoN. So brain is likely town unless they're both scum?

That's my reading of start of D2 anyway.

[Jamiet99uk]

For brain to be scum, I think foodcoats needs to be scum. I can't make sense of his start of day otherwise.

Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?

If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.

I'm not sold on that analysis.

Brainbomb has a habit of blurting things out.

[summit_fever]

So, Brainbomb.

Brainbomb barely mentioned Bismarck all through D2 and did not appear to scumread him. He declared his main scumreads as being Vecna, Foxcastle, kgray, and Flash.

Then 1hr 11min (or 9 pages) before the deadline, he voted Bismarck on the basis that Bismarck was potentially going to get Modkilled. He then apparently vanished.

However, he was apparently able to be online at around about EoD time, because a few minutes after the "please hold" message, while Worcej was still processing the end of the phase, he posted a rather inappropriate post encouraging Worcej not to modkill EMC. This suggests to me that he had been present at EoD because he had seen EMC's little misdemeanour involving the screenshot. He should also therefore have noticed that Bismarck was present, and voting.

Yet, Brainbomb chose not to speak up, and left his vote on Bismarck as the deadline rolled over.

Hmm.

This is a good post

[Jamiet99uk]

So, Brainbomb.

Brainbomb barely mentioned Bismarck all through D2 and did not appear to scumread him. He declared his main scumreads as being Vecna, Foxcastle, kgray, and Flash.

Then 1hr 11min (or 9 pages) before the deadline, he voted Bismarck on the basis that Bismarck was potentially going to get Modkilled. He then apparently vanished.

However, he was apparently able to be online at around about EoD time, because a few minutes after the "please hold" message, while Worcej was still processing the end of the phase, he posted a rather inappropriate post encouraging Worcej not to modkill EMC. This suggests to me that he had been present at EoD because he had seen EMC's little misdemeanour involving the screenshot. He should also therefore have noticed that Bismarck was present, and voting.

Yet, Brainbomb chose not to speak up, and left his vote on Bismarck as the deadline rolled over.

Hmm.

This is a good post

Thank you, I typed it myself.

[xorxes]

Hm?

Could you talk us through your thought process there, Xšaya-ṛšā?

If food is scum, Mafia more or less already knew what would happen and so his reaction could have been planned. Still a strange thing to do, but let's say possible.

If food is town, however, there's no way scum!brain could have predicted the outcome, so the reaction was spontaneous. I don't see why he would blurt out that he knew food's role (thinking it was Commuter). It is possible he did some quick thinking, realized it was Lightning Rod + Jailor, and came up with the Commuter story as a towntell, but I don't really see that happening.

I'm not sold on that analysis.

Brainbomb has a habit of blurting things out.

As town, yes. But as scum?

[summit_fever]

I'd like to point out that at this time:

Bozo
Damo
Dargor
Demon
flash
Sarah
TheMarche
Brain (his one doesn't count and shouldn't have been made)

are non posters during night 2

[Jamiet99uk]

I'd like to point out that at this time:

Bozo
Damo
Dargor
Demon
flash
Sarah
TheMarche
Brain (his one doesn't count and shouldn't have been made)

are non posters during night 2

The phase is just under four hours old and various people live in different time zones. I should go to bed as it's nearly 2am here. I don't think people's lack of posting four hours into a 24 hour phase is all that indicative.

However, the fact that Bozo and Brain were around for EoD but vanished around the point of Bismarck's flip?

Hmmm.

[summit_fever]

I'm curious EMC. Are you happy with the way you handled day 2?

[e.m.c^42]

I'm curious EMC. Are you happy with the way you handled day 2?

Well, fuckup asides well enough I suppose.

[e.m.c^42]

To an extent it was me trying to get as much out there and interact with as many people that I could so that if I did get lynched people would be able to maximize the info.

[e.m.c^42]

But Bismarck definitely should've said something earlier.

However, the lack of traction that any counter wagon got in the day was concerning, especially in consideration the same thing happened D1 - we gained a lead wagon very early in the day and it never changed. An alternative was never close, at any point.

[e.m.c^42]

So forgive me if I am a bit tired, lol

[e.m.c^42]

I'm not sold on that analysis.

Brainbomb has a habit of blurting things out.

As town, yes. But as scum?

I will not claim to know brain's scum mind well, but I am going to put it out there that when I was playing hostile 3P I did impulsively claim an NK attempt without thinking it through in a similar fashion - which hindsight puts it as a mistake.

So it is possible, but not sure how much it would apply to brain. The only way I see it working if he was scum is that his original target was foodc.

[e.m.c^42]

Do tell me if I need to elaborate on why but it seems pretty clear.

[e.m.c^42]

I'm also still not sure what to make of Neph lmao

I still believe he's taunting for something, but haven't thoughts anymore to motivation behind it.