M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Chaqa]

I really want to emphasise this. At 2pm PDT it is 11pm in Saxony (Maybe some of Saxony is GMT+1).

I believe it is unreasonable, given how Bismarck was playing, to come to the conclusion that an unvote at end of day 2 was a likely result.

Whether it was reasonable or not, it was not an idea initiated by brainbomb, and it was a concern that several people raised, which you probably already know if you were reading the thread.

I thought it was brainbomb's idea as well, though I was not reading quite as thoroughly as normal due to having to catch up 20 pages in a short time.

[summit_fever]

Pretty sure based on one of his other posts he’s east coast australia

Okay if that is true then he is 5 hours behind PDT which would be 9 in the morning. That would be much more annoying.

Oh sorry 7 hours behind due to daylight savings. That would be horribly annoying.

Yes I confirmed this with post #1248. It is the same time zone as eastern australia and voting time would be 7am PDT.

hmm.. I think it is more reasonable to assume he may have finished on an unvote.

[Jamiet99uk]

Here is something interesting I have noticed while looking back at Bismarck's posts:

I didn't want to claim, but your pointless drive against me leaves me no choice to save town from a severe mislynch.

I am JOAT on this island. I am the Jack-of-all- Trades, a multi-purpose tool to be employed to hunt down scum.

Lynch me, and you will regret it.

And no-one lost their powers on N1 - Foodcoats' action took it all, so everyone still has their powers. How do I know? My PM from GM told me.

Yeah true Chaqa, but its not like your involvement is still required. Anyways I might sent a package your way tonight (and hope noone is interfering with it, because that stupid n1 shit did eat up my charges contrary to what is being claimed)

I don't know whether this is significant, but Vecna claimed he lost a charge as a result of the Lightning Rod, while Bismarck told us that he did not lose a charge (despite his actions clearly having finite charges). It seems impossible he would have been lying about that.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Vecna:

Without using screenshots, could you summarise what result you were informed of at the end of N1?

[xorxes]

I think more fear of a Tracker than a new player.

I guess we'll find out tonight how fearful of the purported Tracker they really are.

Yeah, it's all WIFOM at this point anyway.

At least we know that if EMC does flip scum at some point, it's the biggest knowledge bomb we'll have lol

You should probably tell him to track someone scummy. You should make the choice of who, not him.

[Jamiet99uk]

I wonder if I should pay Bozo another visit?

[xorxes]

I guess we'll find out tonight how fearful of the purported Tracker they really are.

Yeah, it's all WIFOM at this point anyway.

At least we know that if EMC does flip scum at some point, it's the biggest knowledge bomb we'll have lol

You should probably tell him to track someone scummy. You should make the choice of who, not him.

And leave us a note in your EON, in case they kill you.

[xorxes]

I really want to emphasise this. At 2pm PDT it is 11pm in Saxony (Maybe some of Saxony is GMT+1).

I believe it is unreasonable, given how Bismarck was playing, to come to the conclusion that an unvote at end of day 2 was a likely result.

Whether it was reasonable or not, it was not an idea initiated by brainbomb, and it was a concern that several people raised, which you probably already know if you were reading the thread.

I thought it was brainbomb's idea as well, though I was not reading quite as thoroughly as normal due to having to catch up 20 pages in a short time.

No, I believe I was the first one to bring it up.

[xorxes]

Here is something interesting I have noticed while looking back at Bismarck's posts:

I didn't want to claim, but your pointless drive against me leaves me no choice to save town from a severe mislynch.

I am JOAT on this island. I am the Jack-of-all- Trades, a multi-purpose tool to be employed to hunt down scum.

Lynch me, and you will regret it.

And no-one lost their powers on N1 - Foodcoats' action took it all, so everyone still has their powers. How do I know? My PM from GM told me.

Yeah true Chaqa, but its not like your involvement is still required. Anyways I might sent a package your way tonight (and hope noone is interfering with it, because that stupid n1 shit did eat up my charges contrary to what is being claimed)

I don't know whether this is significant, but Vecna claimed he lost a charge as a result of the Lightning Rod, while Bismarck told us that he did not lose a charge (despite his actions clearly having finite charges). It seems impossible he would have been lying about that.

Hard to understand why Vecna would make up such a silly lie.

[Chaqa]

Here is something interesting I have noticed while looking back at Bismarck's posts:

I didn't want to claim, but your pointless drive against me leaves me no choice to save town from a severe mislynch.

I am JOAT on this island. I am the Jack-of-all- Trades, a multi-purpose tool to be employed to hunt down scum.

Lynch me, and you will regret it.

And no-one lost their powers on N1 - Foodcoats' action took it all, so everyone still has their powers. How do I know? My PM from GM told me.

Yeah true Chaqa, but its not like your involvement is still required. Anyways I might sent a package your way tonight (and hope noone is interfering with it, because that stupid n1 shit did eat up my charges contrary to what is being claimed)

I don't know whether this is significant, but Vecna claimed he lost a charge as a result of the Lightning Rod, while Bismarck told us that he did not lose a charge (despite his actions clearly having finite charges). It seems impossible he would have been lying about that.

I think that actually lends credence to Vecna. Typically an Item Smith/Item Giver will lose their invention unless roleblocked, but an action you attempt to use would fail and not be used up?

This is my read on it.

[Chaqa]

I guess we'll find out tonight how fearful of the purported Tracker they really are.

Yeah, it's all WIFOM at this point anyway.

At least we know that if EMC does flip scum at some point, it's the biggest knowledge bomb we'll have lol

You should probably tell him to track someone scummy. You should make the choice of who, not him.

We're discussing this with food as we speak.

[summit_fever]

I really want to emphasise this. At 2pm PDT it is 11pm in Saxony (Maybe some of Saxony is GMT+1).

I believe it is unreasonable, given how Bismarck was playing, to come to the conclusion that an unvote at end of day 2 was a likely result.

Whether it was reasonable or not, it was not an idea initiated by brainbomb, and it was a concern that several people raised, which you probably already know if you were reading the thread.

I thought it was brainbomb's idea as well, though I was not reading quite as thoroughly as normal due to having to catch up 20 pages in a short time.

I'm not sure who first expressed concern over it. Brainbomb is the only one that factored it into his lynch. You mentioned Brainbomb's faux outrage. Xorxes mentioned it to Bozo who seemed unconcerned and thought the lynching may come anyway if it was between Bismarck and EMC.

[Chaqa]

Yeah, it's all WIFOM at this point anyway.

At least we know that if EMC does flip scum at some point, it's the biggest knowledge bomb we'll have lol

You should probably tell him to track someone scummy. You should make the choice of who, not him.

And leave us a note in your EON, in case they kill you.

Will do, and will instruct food to do the same so we have some verification.

[e.m.c^42]

Why would scum prefer to lynch emc? It seems scum would prefer to leave him alive if he was town, so that we can't confirm Donny's alignment. Also, most of the people voting for him did so with more conviction than the people voting for Bismarck, so he is more likely to remain a viable candidate. What makes you think they rather lynch emc?

I think more fear of a Tracker than a new player.

I guess we'll find out tonight how fearful of the purported Tracker they really are.

Lol scumread me harder and get more dedicated into mislynching, so I can live longer.

[xorxes]

Yeah, it's all WIFOM at this point anyway.

At least we know that if EMC does flip scum at some point, it's the biggest knowledge bomb we'll have lol

You should probably tell him to track someone scummy. You should make the choice of who, not him.

We're discussing this with food as we speak.

I don't think food is anywhere as close to being clear as you are. Don't let him influence your decision.

[Chaqa]

You should probably tell him to track someone scummy. You should make the choice of who, not him.

We're discussing this with food as we speak.

I don't think food is anywhere as close to being clear as you are. Don't let him influence your decision.

Fair point. I'll call the shots then.

[Chaqa]

Speaking of shots -
Vigilante - please shoot Sarah. For real.
Protective roles - do as your conscious dictates

[xorxes]

I think more fear of a Tracker than a new player.

I guess we'll find out tonight how fearful of the purported Tracker they really are.

Lol scumread me harder and get more dedicated into mislynching, so I can live longer.

Well, if you are town they might want to keep me alive to push your mislynch, so I can live longer as well

[Jamiet99uk]

So, Brainbomb.

Brainbomb barely mentioned Bismarck all through D2 and did not appear to scumread him. He declared his main scumreads as being Vecna, Foxcastle, kgray, and Flash.

Then 1hr 11min (or 9 pages) before the deadline, he voted Bismarck on the basis that Bismarck was potentially going to get Modkilled. He then apparently vanished.

However, he was apparently able to be online at around about EoD time, because a few minutes after the "please hold" message, while Worcej was still processing the end of the phase, he posted a rather inappropriate post encouraging Worcej not to modkill EMC. This suggests to me that he had been present at EoD because he had seen EMC's little misdemeanour involving the screenshot. He should also therefore have noticed that Bismarck was present, and voting.

Yet, Brainbomb chose not to speak up, and left his vote on Bismarck as the deadline rolled over.

Hmm.

[Chaqa]

Yeah, brain has struck me as quite scummy this whole game. This is just the latest.