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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3201 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:04 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:04 pm
I don't actually have any strong scumreads.
Noted. I like to fabricate quotes.
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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3202 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:11 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:07 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:06 pm
Which really does come off as an excuse to not like, scumhunt? He's usually pretty good about finding a person, finding a flaw, questioning intensively until his query is answered, then rinse and repeat. That hasn't really happened though.
Granted Donny's thing completely overshadowed D1 and Chaqa's premature leak overtook D2 today, but still. He's very much his own agenda type of guy.
So I don't think what happened with the general topic of discussion would alter or influence his decisions to pinpoint or question at all.

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#3203 Post by bozotheclown » Sat May 02, 2020 6:12 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:06 pm
Which really does come off as an excuse to not like, scumhunt? He's usually pretty good about finding a person, finding a flaw, questioning intensively until his query is answered, then rinse and repeat. That hasn't really happened though.
I have attempted to question Sarah but she does not respond, which confirms to me that she is a good lynch candidate.

I gave a list of 5 players I would be OK lynching today (damo, dargorygel, DemonRHK, flash, and SarahK24).

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#3204 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:12 pm

There's a sense that bozo was kind of lost without mechs to grasp on, though, early on in the game. I feel like he replaced mechs with Sarah, if that makes sense? A default to fall back on.

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#3205 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:13 pm

So actually, I'm not sure if it's alignment indicative at all.

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#3206 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:14 pm

But he does seem flailing in the sense that he is not used to pure meta/context reads without data. Cue his "I don't think anyone cares" statement.

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#3207 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 02, 2020 6:17 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:07 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:01 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:00 pm


Do you think I would never make a list of 2 items as town? This looks like confirmation bias, assuming you are town.
That's not the main reason I think that you are scum.
What is the main reason you think I am scum?
You've been very distant, at times really seeming not to be very engaged at all. In terms of a potential lynch you've focussed on SarahK and haven't really strongly looked into anyone else to any level of detail as I'd expect town Bozo to do. A lot of your posts are one-sentence reactions to people, especially when they mention you. You don't seem to be on the front foot, as you usually are as town.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3208 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:18 pm

So what happened is that there is this strange dichotomy of being focused enough to pick up on hints of PR, while also being less...focused in a larger sense?

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#3209 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:12 pm
There's a sense that bozo was kind of lost without mechs to grasp on, though, early on in the game. I feel like he replaced mechs with Sarah, if that makes sense? A default to fall back on.
I understand he willing to lynch Sarah on D1, I also share the feeling, but I think in this game with so many roles around we can wait a bit before a policy lynch on her.
And I agree this is a "safe" vote.

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#3210 Post by Jamiet99uk » Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm

I need to go for my daily walk. I'll be back well in time for EoD.

Everyone on a 1-vote wagon, or who hasn't voted at all, should think about making their vote useful. Remember there could still be x-shot vote manipulating powers in the mix.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3211 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:18 pm
So what happened is that there is this strange dichotomy of being focused enough to pick up on hints of PR, while also being less...focused in a larger sense?
Which does rather hint at the fact that he may be scum or 3P.

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#3212 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:20 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:04 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:04 pm
I don't actually have any strong scumreads.
Noted. I like to fabricate quotes.
Darlin', if you wanted my attention you gotta be patient.
This post make me laugh.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3213 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:21 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:18 pm
So what happened is that there is this strange dichotomy of being focused enough to pick up on hints of PR, while also being less...focused in a larger sense?
Which does rather hint at the fact that he may be scum or 3P.
At the same time, I do think it's a possibility that he's having some sort of emotional thing behind the scenes that influences what he is doing, lol

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#3214 Post by bozotheclown » Sat May 02, 2020 6:22 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:17 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:07 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:01 pm


That's not the main reason I think that you are scum.
What is the main reason you think I am scum?
You've been very distant, at times really seeming not to be very engaged at all. In terms of a potential lynch you've focussed on SarahK and haven't really strongly looked into anyone else to any level of detail as I'd expect town Bozo to do. A lot of your posts are one-sentence reactions to people, especially when they mention you. You don't seem to be on the front foot, as you usually are as town.
I have looked into everyone but have not found anything too suspicious to push anyone on, except for Sarah's complete lack of interest in understanding what is going on. However, when I question Sarah she doesn't respond, and no one seems to care.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3215 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:24 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:22 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:17 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:07 pm


What is the main reason you think I am scum?
You've been very distant, at times really seeming not to be very engaged at all. In terms of a potential lynch you've focussed on SarahK and haven't really strongly looked into anyone else to any level of detail as I'd expect town Bozo to do. A lot of your posts are one-sentence reactions to people, especially when they mention you. You don't seem to be on the front foot, as you usually are as town.
I have looked into everyone but have not found anything too suspicious to push anyone on, except for Sarah's complete lack of interest in understanding what is going on. However, when I question Sarah she doesn't respond, and no one seems to care.
You know what, ##vote Sarah, I can poke Neph another day.

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#3216 Post by bozotheclown » Sat May 02, 2020 6:25 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:12 pm
There's a sense that bozo was kind of lost without mechs to grasp on, though, early on in the game. I feel like he replaced mechs with Sarah, if that makes sense? A default to fall back on.
I understand he willing to lynch Sarah on D1, I also share the feeling, but I think in this game with so many roles around we can wait a bit before a policy lynch on her.
And I agree this is a "safe" vote.
I am not advocating lynching Sarah as just a policy lynch. Last game I was relatively sure she was town based on her lack of understanding of how the game worked. This game she has not done that, but she is not posting anything significant.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3217 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:25 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm
I need to go for my daily walk. I'll be back well in time for EoD.

Everyone on a 1-vote wagon, or who hasn't voted at all, should think about making their vote useful. Remember there could still be x-shot vote manipulating powers in the mix.

See you all soon darlings.
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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3218 Post by Vecna » Sat May 02, 2020 6:25 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:45 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:36 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:35 pm


:neutral:
Or, do you mean "please tell me you aren't voting for Bozo"?

If you're sure Bozo is town, care to say why that is?
sigh

##Vote bozo
What a weird response.
dargorygel wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:53 pm
To be clear, my vote is on emc not simply because he might be scummy (although he might) but because it seems very information-rich. Connections to Chaqa and donny, clarifying THOSE roles, too. However tracker is very useful. His answer about tracking rdr is reasonable, and he answered it quickly.

We could also mine a lot of data from emc's conversations, even though most of them have been chaqa and him.

I found foodcoats absent and unfocused, but I am convinced he is a Bolt, and that is likely a town role. I could vote for neph, Bismarck, or someone else (tin foil hat theory) that I will probably post when i return tomorrow.
Holy motherlord of all unicorn dildo's, what a scummy post. Instant-add darg to lynchlist.
brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 6:56 pm
bozo seems kind of solvy today tho.

I feel better doing this
##Vote flash
Hurray, finally something bb does I can approve of again.
brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:06 pm
I think were taking our eye off focus here with too much mech talk and not enough good old fashioned who is laying back talk
Still though, Brainbombs posting style seems very simplistic this game. His thoughts dont have a lot of MEAT to them. There is not a lot of "three levels deep" of suspicion going on. He keeps voting me every once in a while, but im not feeling any genuine suspicion there, more that he does it because he feels it is expected.
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:10 pm
The simplest explanation is that emc was the third part faction, and now everyone is town or mafia. If so, there are probably 4 or 5 mafia.

If we believe all claims and implied claims:

3P:
emc: Third Party Universal Backup (now town Tracker)

town:
Donny Dude: Tracker
foodcoats: Lightning Rod
Chaqa: mystery role with night QT
Jamie: town investigative role
brainbomb: town visiting role
Can you stop with these useless posts? They add nothing. We all know this. Spent that time usefully or get lynched.
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:35 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:33 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:30 pm

Vecna has some weirdness with the Donny scumslip, but I think it could come from town Vecna as well.
What was weird about how Vecna handled Donny's supposed scumslip?
Well, the fact he was pushing him so hard on it and Donny might have been town, mainly. I don't really hold it against Vecna, and I would need more definitive info to even begin analyzing it. Just a note that it's the biggest thing Vecna has done, and it's something town!Vecna OR scum!Vecna could do
This is fair, to an extent. I was actually feeling mainly town vibes coming from Donny in all his posting, and was fearing it was just deer-in-the-headlights town. There was a reason why I was pushing him to respond to me with the quickfire questions. There was a reason I kept asking him about the way he found the information. I was really hoping he'd at least give me a reasonable out how that thing couldve ever come from town.

As scum pushing town I wouldn't be doing that.
bozotheclown wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 9:03 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:58 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 8:56 pm


What gut feeling has bozo shared this game?
I'm reading his scum deduction list that way.ostly because he provides no real bozo data for his townies.
I could get into why I think certain players are likely town, but I doubt anyone would care.
Bozo is finally starting to post in more rapid succession again. As scum he usually just makes a few posts and disappears. Here at least he stays around and interacts with people, and talks.

Im still undecided, but its not a slam dunk scum yet
brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 9:39 pm
inb4 chaqa is mafia driver who has to give karma or his camaro breaks down on route 9
:-)
Nephthys wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 9:55 pm
I think the EMC gives us endlessly more information than anything else and I think there's a reasonable chance he is scum
START WRITING MORE WALLS

LET ME READ U
Nephthys wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 10:10 pm
Sooo time to do some reading. This game is confusing

First of all, lets start with Bismarck

In his ISO there is very little.

The main thing I dislike here is that he states that Donny was "scum through and through." Now I got nothing wrong with that and he is likely correct, however to not follow that up with an EMC vote is fundamentally flawed.

Also he poked Fox about his read list (a nice catch that indicates he's reading semi-closely) but hasn't pushed it at all since.

I can't in good conscience ever put someone like this in a town grouping.
pretty good point
Nephthys wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 10:16 pm
I actually think that RHK games some incredibly good points.
DemonRHK wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:45 pm
I'm not sure how I feel about the 'rate 1-10' facebook knockoff bs. It seems like fishing with extra steps. Either massclaim or don't do shit.

I don't know if that's inherently scummy as a post because he's a newer player. If he is scum I'd almost have to lean that there is a scum role enabling day chat which would suuuuuck.
This post is actually rather good. This would indicate that it's likely scum that were pushing the massclaim (need to check who) as, assuming they have day chat. It would work heavily in their favour.

I can follow where he's coming from and also like his pick on the VCA.

I can place him a P I L E of town
eeeew
Nephthys wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 10:22 pm
Flashy's turn

I think that opening up a massclaim D2 after not pushing it D1 is, towny with a daychat (I.e donny is scum) scummy without (donny is town)

Oh look, more reason to vote EMC


Until proven otherwise,

J O I N
T H E
P I L E
EEEEEEEEW
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Fri May 01, 2020 10:26 pm
Summit

ooo wow this was a pleasure to read, its me from a younger era.

There are WALLLLLLLLLLS
There is coherence of though
There are pushes
There is a desire for information

I Like this guy

Please never stop playing this game
<3 <3 <3

P I L E
im regretting asking for walls now if thats what im getting. I was looking forward to townreading you, but instead im just all confused. I thought there were some pings, but I dno. This one was better than the last one, but its still just like "WHEN I WAS YOUNG BOY, IA-DIA-DIA-DUM"

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3219 Post by bozotheclown » Sat May 02, 2020 6:26 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:21 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:18 pm
So what happened is that there is this strange dichotomy of being focused enough to pick up on hints of PR, while also being less...focused in a larger sense?
Which does rather hint at the fact that he may be scum or 3P.
At the same time, I do think it's a possibility that he's having some sort of emotional thing behind the scenes that influences what he is doing, lol
Are you still talking about me here?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#3220 Post by e.m.c^42 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:28 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:26 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:21 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 6:19 pm


Which does rather hint at the fact that he may be scum or 3P.
At the same time, I do think it's a possibility that he's having some sort of emotional thing behind the scenes that influences what he is doing, lol
Are you still talking about me here?
Yes, or some sort of other driving outside force which would be a non-town role although not necessarily non-town alignment.

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