M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[TheMarche]

I don't think at all that Chaqa is a 3p who recruited emc in his team. Why would he have outed him at the end of N1 if so? I'm sure of few things, and one of them is that they're probably not in the same faction unless they're both town.

I don't know what to think about that anymore. But Chaqa did use the word "recruit" to describe what he did to emc. And now foodcoats appears to be in on the secret, whatever the secret is.

There's this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighboriz

Doesn't require that they're all the same alignment, and does use the word "recruit."

Huh. Cool. Well if chaqa is town this will be useful.

[e.m.c^42]

Oh, what the hell, you're so fucking intent on outing roles to an exact and then not believing any of it. Why do I townread you so much again lol

I bet if I never said anything you would've latched onto Brain or Jamie.

[Foxcastle]

Foodcoats, are you yet another mathematician?

A fellow mathematician? Where?

Probably not in Foodcoats. But BunnyGo is another frequent player who isn't in this game but is a mathematician. Damo might also be, but he also might have just taken a probability class once and gotten a B- that he's especially proud of.

[e.m.c^42]

Yes, Chaqa is confirmed town, I won't make any comments as to other requirements because you have no need to know that information

[TheMarche]

I want to understand which kind of revelation foodcoast received that makes emc 66% town. ##VOTE e.m.c. until someone gives me an explanation on why not to do so. And the reasons of my vote are also the same of the previous time i voted for emc.

[e.m.c^42]

Yes, Chaqa is confirmed town, I won't make any comments as to other requirements because you have no need to know that information

Because of that are you now satisfied? :D

[kgray]

Foodcoats, are you yet another mathematician?

A fellow mathematician? Where?

Probably not in Foodcoats. But BunnyGo is another frequent player who isn't in this game but is a mathematician. Damo might also be, but he also might have just taken a probability class once and gotten a B- that he's especially proud of.

This made my whole day, thank you

[TheMarche]

Foodcoats, are you yet another mathematician?

A fellow mathematician? Where?

Probably not in Foodcoats. But BunnyGo is another frequent player who isn't in this game but is a mathematician. Damo might also be, but he also might have just taken a probability class once and gotten a B- that he's especially proud of.

Wow, cool. That's the first place out of my uni where I see someone who likes math.

Ok now i'll stop shitposting and start doing something more productive, such as trying to find actual reasons emc should not be lynched.

[e.m.c^42]

I want to understand which kind of revelation foodcoast received that makes emc 66% town. ##VOTE e.m.c. until someone gives me an explanation on why not to do so. And the reasons of my vote are also the same of the previous time i voted for emc.

What, so you're forcing him to either claim he got a scan item, some other sort of info reveal, or joined the QT?

[kgray]

I don't know what to think about that anymore. But Chaqa did use the word "recruit" to describe what he did to emc. And now foodcoats appears to be in on the secret, whatever the secret is.

There's this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer

Doesn't require that they're all the same alignment, and does use the word "recruit."

That's possible. Kind of pointless if everyone who joins announces that they've joined, and apparently it tells us nothing about any alignments, unless there's a secret catch that they're not sharing.

I don't disagree. But I also don't think Chaqa using the word "recruit" should be taken as evidence of his alignment.

[TheMarche]

I want to understand which kind of revelation foodcoast received that makes emc 66% town. ##VOTE e.m.c. until someone gives me an explanation on why not to do so. And the reasons of my vote are also the same of the previous time i voted for emc.

What, so you're forcing him to either claim he got a scan item, some other sort of info reveal, or joined the QT?

Unless i find actual reasons you should not be lynched.

[kgray]

Oh, what the hell, you're so fucking intent on outing roles to an exact and then not believing any of it. Why do I townread you so much again lol

I bet if I never said anything you would've latched onto Brain or Jamie.

So should I assume this frustration is exaggerated to, or...?

[damo666]

Foodcoats, are you yet another mathematician?

A fellow mathematician? Where?

Probably not in Foodcoats. But BunnyGo is another frequent player who isn't in this game but is a mathematician. Damo might also be, but he also might have just taken a probability class once and gotten a B- that he's especially proud of.

Thanks Fox

[xorxes]

Xorx, are you indirectly pushing for claims?

No, I want people who do make claims to be clear and not make veiled suggestions that could mean anything. If they think it's better to keep it hidden then don't say anything.

That's a bit all or nothing.

So you're saying, I shouldn't have mentioned anything about Donny's alignment at all and left town in the dark about the janitored flip?

Your role, if it is as you claim, is pretty awful. If town lynches someone D1 it's because they were found to be the scummiest. If then someone shows up D2 saying they are the exact same role, but the D1 flip was hidden, there's very little reason not to lynch them again. So your only chance of not being lynched D2 is either keep quiet and do your own thing, or come clean and somehow convince town that they made a mistake on D1. You (with help from Chaqa to be sure) did neither of those things. Nothing that you did has convinced me that we made a mistake with Donny. I said from the start that I was willing to consider lynching someone else, but instead of helping me with that you started questioning my motives for wanting to lynch you, and a good chunk of the day was wasted on that pointless discussion.

[e.m.c^42]

Oh, what the hell, you're so fucking intent on outing roles to an exact and then not believing any of it. Why do I townread you so much again lol

I bet if I never said anything you would've latched onto Brain or Jamie.

So should I assume this frustration is exaggerated to, or...?

What do you mean? :D

[e.m.c^42]

Your role, if it is as you claim, is pretty awful. If town lynches someone D1 it's because they were found to be the scummiest. If then someone shows up D2 saying they are the exact same role, but the D1 flip was hidden, there's very little reason not to lynch them again. So your only chance of not being lynched D2 is either keep quiet and do your own thing, or come clean and somehow convince town that they made a mistake on D1. You (with help from Chaqa to be sure) did neither of those things. Nothing that you did has convinced me that we made a mistake with Donny. I said from the start that I was willing to consider lynching someone else, but instead of helping me with that you started questioning my motives for wanting to lynch you, and a good chunk of the day was wasted on that pointless discussion.

Oh, it wasn't pointless at all - it made you a lot townier and removed you from the vecna/fox/neph strata

[e.m.c^42]

I absolutely did want to lay low and keep quiet but Chaqa was not as good as that than predicted lol

[xorxes]

Yes, Chaqa is confirmed town, I won't make any comments as to other requirements because you have no need to know that information

Because of that are you now satisfied? :D

Not sure if the "you" is me, but if this is your claim now, why could it not be your claim from the start? It makes very little sense to keep changing your story, it's not like Chaqa is now a clear, because he only becomes a clear if you flip town.

[Jamiet99uk]

Chaqa outed him, because Chaqa "recruited" him into a private QT that they share, and which foodcoats apparently now shares as well.

I don't think at all that Chaqa is a 3p who recruited emc in his team. Why would he have outed him at the end of N1 if so? I'm sure of few things, and one of them is that they're probably not in the same faction unless they're both town.

I don't know what to think about that anymore. But Chaqa did use the word "recruit" to describe what he did to emc. And now foodcoats appears to be in on the secret, whatever the secret is.

What leads you to assume it is the same secret, or that it comes from the same source?

[xorxes]

There's this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer

Doesn't require that they're all the same alignment, and does use the word "recruit."

That's possible. Kind of pointless if everyone who joins announces that they've joined, and apparently it tells us nothing about any alignments, unless there's a secret catch that they're not sharing.

I don't disagree. But I also don't think Chaqa using the word "recruit" should be taken as evidence of his alignment.

I agree.