M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Xorxes get out of my brain, there's not enough room.

[Chaqa]

I kinda want to lynch in the lurker-ish group.

Bismarck
Sarah
Flash
Marche
Neph

These are my short-list for now.

[bozotheclown]

Any other questions?

How do we know you did not replace Donny on the scum team and are now forced to fake claim what Donny fake claimed?

Because I'm not that much of an idiot lol, despite all that I act like one. There's nothing forcing me to fake claim what Donny claimed, not sure what you are referring to.

You claimed you took his role, how could you claim it was something other than Tracker?

[Chaqa]

I overestimated and underestimated some things about Chaqa lol.

A lot of people say that after their first night alone with Chaqa.

I'm going to take this as a compliment.

[xorxes]

The role EMC is describing is more usually known as the Amnesiac but if it's that role in all but name, then it does indeed start out un-aligned, and gains the alignment of the person it takes over.

So the question is, what do we think Donny's alignment was?

This is why I suggest testing EMC by:
1. Having 2-4 people with visiting roles come forward (2/3 the way there)
2. Having him track one of them
3. Protective roles can guard them as well to minimize NK/RB impact

We know one of the protective roles (Jailor) would be ineffective here.

Even if we verify that emc is Tracker, that doesn't tell us what his alignment is. It is not worth it spending a lot or actions for that.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo has been asking some strange questions this game.

If you did not like my question, why did you +1 it?

[Chaqa]

How do we know you did not replace Donny on the scum team and are now forced to fake claim what Donny fake claimed?

Because I'm not that much of an idiot lol, despite all that I act like one. There's nothing forcing me to fake claim what Donny claimed, not sure what you are referring to.

You claimed you took his role, how could you claim it was something other than Tracker?

He's saying that if he were scum with Donny, he wouldn't have claimed the whole 3P role-copy thing anyway.

[e.m.c^42]

Man, I should've just lied to Chaqa and made this a lot easier.

Why would you have done that as town? As town your goal is not to survive at all costs or make things easier for yourself.

Because it would've flowed a lot smoother, provided the same amount of information, and maximized my chances of surviving to late/endgame.

I overestimated and underestimated some things about Chaqa lol.

See, let me put out this scenario.

At EOD, I get a PM from worce that I'm now the town tracker. My QT with Chaqa is finally opened.

I tell him, I'm instant oneshot lie detector, and I'm going to use it on Donny to figure out his flip alright?", to which Chaqa would agree. I'd then report, yes, he was indeed the tracker, and likely Chaqa would've outed me sometime today as a currently powerless VT.

Since I'm not particularly good at solving, and there are many other PR's to aim at, I likely would've survived to late/endgame without being even considered for roleblock/kill, and would've had a decent set of info at a decisive time.

[flash2015]

Do we want to discuss again massclaim? Perhaps it isn't that bad for town if there are lots of town powerful roles. If we know what we have perhaps we can co-ordinate better on how to verify each other.

Why do you want to massclaim now that scum have had a chance to coordinate their stories? You don't think we have enough info to lynch someone today?

If there was a secretary they could have already co-ordinated their stories even if we mass claimed the first day.

Given that we didn't get any info from the lynch and we didn't get much info from the EON, I worry that we don't have enough info to make a good decision on who to lynch. And I believe if we do a massclaim there may be other people that can verify emc's story. Or if there are other people that have a role that could help verify emc's story, would you suggest they say something?

[Chaqa]

Oh, and someone (foodcoats?) asked what VCA was awhile back.

Vote-Count Analysis

Which is what a lot of my game is based on

[xorxes]

Man, I should've just lied to Chaqa and made this a lot easier.

Why would you have done that as town? As town your goal is not to survive at all costs or make things easier for yourself.

Because it would've flowed a lot smoother, provided the same amount of information, and maximized my chances of surviving to late/endgame.

I overestimated and underestimated some things about Chaqa lol.

Again, why would you be trying to maximize your chances of surviving to late/endgame if you were town, at the cost of hiding very relevant information to town (Donny's alignment).

[bozotheclown]

Why would you have done that as town? As town your goal is not to survive at all costs or make things easier for yourself.

Because it would've flowed a lot smoother, provided the same amount of information, and maximized my chances of surviving to late/endgame.

I overestimated and underestimated some things about Chaqa lol.

See, let me put out this scenario.

At EOD, I get a PM from worce that I'm now the town tracker. My QT with Chaqa is finally opened.

I tell him, I'm instant oneshot lie detector, and I'm going to use it on Donny to figure out his flip alright?", to which Chaqa would agree. I'd then report, yes, he was indeed the tracker, and likely Chaqa would've outed me sometime today as a currently powerless VT.

Since I'm not particularly good at solving, and there are many other PR's to aim at, I likely would've survived to late/endgame without being even considered for roleblock/kill, and would've had a decent set of info at a decisive time.

Who were you responding to D1?

[e.m.c^42]

How do we know you did not replace Donny on the scum team and are now forced to fake claim what Donny fake claimed?

Because I'm not that much of an idiot lol, despite all that I act like one. There's nothing forcing me to fake claim what Donny claimed, not sure what you are referring to.

You claimed you took his role, how could you claim it was something other than Tracker?

I think you are missing something important here. Why would I claim I took his role at all?

[Jamiet99uk]

Because I'm not that much of an idiot lol, despite all that I act like one. There's nothing forcing me to fake claim what Donny claimed, not sure what you are referring to.

You claimed you took his role, how could you claim it was something other than Tracker?

He's saying that if he were scum with Donny, he wouldn't have claimed the whole 3P role-copy thing anyway.

No, but the point is he could have become scum by universally backupping the dying scum Donny, see?

[e.m.c^42]

Who were you responding to D1?

Haven't caught up yet but that was just tracking who Chaqa missed +1'ing lol

At least pretend to read my posts :D

[e.m.c^42]

You claimed you took his role, how could you claim it was something other than Tracker?

He's saying that if he were scum with Donny, he wouldn't have claimed the whole 3P role-copy thing anyway.

No, but the point is he could have become scum by universally backupping the dying scum Donny, see?

I could have, but then no-one would even consider the possibility that there was a universal backup in play :D

[bozotheclown]

Who were you responding to D1?

Haven't caught up yet but that was just tracking who Chaqa missed +1'ing lol

At least pretend to read my posts :D

How was I supposed to know that was an answer to my question?

[Jamiet99uk]

He's saying that if he were scum with Donny, he wouldn't have claimed the whole 3P role-copy thing anyway.

No, but the point is he could have become scum by universally backupping the dying scum Donny, see?

I could have, but then no-one would even consider the possibility that there was a universal backup in play :D

At the risk of sounding like Bozo.... Why not?

[e.m.c^42]

Who were you responding to D1?

Haven't caught up yet but that was just tracking who Chaqa missed +1'ing lol

At least pretend to read my posts :D

How was I supposed to know that was an answer to my question?

It was reply to Chaqa asking about the same thing :D

[bozotheclown]

At least pretend to read my posts :D

How was I supposed to know that was an answer to my question?

It was reply to Chaqa asking about the same thing :D

Does the information you received about Chaqa's QT confirm that he is town?