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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2201 Post by brainbomb » Fri May 01, 2020 2:27 pm

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The majority of scum are hanging back right now. there is no way those people are all town.

id say the entire wolfteam is just chilling while we debate chaqas role


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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2203 Post by xorxes » Fri May 01, 2020 2:30 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:24 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:21 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:14 pm


Oh, at this point I'm just +1'ing to keep track of where I'm at as far as reading the thread. I really think there's only two possibilities:

EMC is scum-aligned (Secretary? or w/e Donny was) after Donny's death
OR
EMC is town-aligned Tracker after Donny's death

I don't think he is a 3P variant of whatever Donny was, but I guess it's possible.
Does it make sense, given the info worcej gave us, that there was a third party that only lasted until the first death happened and then it was no longer a third party?

@emc, if that's what you're claiming, what is your role called exactly?

@Chaqa, what is your role called exactly?
@xorxes - I won't reveal that until just before the end of night 2. I have my reasons and they are in town's best interest.
OK. I think it's better to lynch emc first anyway.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2204 Post by dargorygel » Fri May 01, 2020 2:30 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:27 pm
NON VOTERS

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The majority of scum are hanging back right now. there is no way those people are all town.

id say the entire wolfteam is just chilling while we debate chaqas role
How many of these have taken part in the debate?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2205 Post by Chaqa » Fri May 01, 2020 2:30 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:27 pm
NON VOTERS

DemonRHK
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Vecna


The majority of scum are hanging back right now. there is no way those people are all town.

id say the entire wolfteam is just chilling while we debate chaqas role
This seems quite probable.

If Donny was town as EMC says, then Vecna is very likely scum, no?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2206 Post by flash2015 » Fri May 01, 2020 2:31 pm

Voting e.m.c^42 for now since in the worst case it will give us some info on what actually happened D1:

##VOTE e.m.c^42

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2207 Post by xorxes » Fri May 01, 2020 2:32 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:23 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:14 pm


That is explicitly NOT what I said. What gives you that impression?
Maybe I misread, I will check back. Was it in the middle of N1 then?
I didn't "pass" the QT to anyone, he can't add someone to it. Did I misunderstand you?
OK, I meant pass the address to it.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2208 Post by Chaqa » Fri May 01, 2020 2:34 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:32 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:23 pm


Maybe I misread, I will check back. Was it in the middle of N1 then?
I didn't "pass" the QT to anyone, he can't add someone to it. Did I misunderstand you?
OK, I meant pass the address to it.
Yes, he received it during Day 1, though we couldn't speak until night.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2209 Post by xorxes » Fri May 01, 2020 2:34 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:28 pm
##Vote Vecna
He said he would be busy today. It doesn't mean it was not an excuse, but I don't think this vote will do anything in terms of pressure at least until tomorrow.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2210 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri May 01, 2020 2:35 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:34 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:32 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:25 pm


I didn't "pass" the QT to anyone, he can't add someone to it. Did I misunderstand you?
OK, I meant pass the address to it.
Yes, he received it during Day 1, though we couldn't speak until night.
Did the QT itself reveal your full role / role name to EMC from that moment?

What is your role called?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2211 Post by xorxes » Fri May 01, 2020 2:36 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:30 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:27 pm
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Vecna


The majority of scum are hanging back right now. there is no way those people are all town.

id say the entire wolfteam is just chilling while we debate chaqas role
This seems quite probable.

If Donny was town as EMC says, then Vecna is very likely scum, no?
I don't think so. I had the exact same thoughts he had about the secretary thing and I'm town.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2212 Post by Chaqa » Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:35 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:34 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:32 pm


OK, I meant pass the address to it.
Yes, he received it during Day 1, though we couldn't speak until night.
Did the QT itself reveal your full role / role name to EMC from that moment?

What is your role called?
Yes, and as I said to xorxes I would rather wait to reveal that until an EoN2 post.

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#2213 Post by kgray » Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm

There's a lot going on and I've only skimmed from EON to here. I'm going back to re-read closely now, but first impressions are:

• I'm willing to believe that foodcoats is lighting rod, and is semi-confirmed town.
• Neph jumped up significantly in my scumreads.
• I don't really see how emc and Chaqa could be scum together, and if one is scum I think emc is more likely, however:
• I don't see why emc would lie about Donny being the tracker. Town could have a coroner or something like that, which could make emc's claim really risky if emc is scum trying to spread misinformation. So I'm inclined to believe Chaqa's story about emc being 3p that takes on the first dead role.

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#2214 Post by xorxes » Fri May 01, 2020 2:41 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm
There's a lot going on and I've only skimmed from EON to here. I'm going back to re-read closely now, but first impressions are:

• I'm willing to believe that foodcoats is lighting rod, and is semi-confirmed town.
• Neph jumped up significantly in my scumreads.
• I don't really see how emc and Chaqa could be scum together, and if one is scum I think emc is more likely, however:
• I don't see why emc would lie about Donny being the tracker. Town could have a coroner or something like that, which could make emc's claim really risky if emc is scum trying to spread misinformation. So I'm inclined to believe Chaqa's story about emc being 3p that takes on the first dead role.
That's not a bad point.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2215 Post by xorxes » Fri May 01, 2020 2:43 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:41 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm
There's a lot going on and I've only skimmed from EON to here. I'm going back to re-read closely now, but first impressions are:

• I'm willing to believe that foodcoats is lighting rod, and is semi-confirmed town.
• Neph jumped up significantly in my scumreads.
• I don't really see how emc and Chaqa could be scum together, and if one is scum I think emc is more likely, however:
• I don't see why emc would lie about Donny being the tracker. Town could have a coroner or something like that, which could make emc's claim really risky if emc is scum trying to spread misinformation. So I'm inclined to believe Chaqa's story about emc being 3p that takes on the first dead role.
That's not a bad point.
Although if emc is a rolethief and he had inadvertently confessed that to Chaqa before realizing he had stolen a mafia role, claiming Tracker was his only option.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2216 Post by Chaqa » Fri May 01, 2020 2:48 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:43 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:41 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm
There's a lot going on and I've only skimmed from EON to here. I'm going back to re-read closely now, but first impressions are:

• I'm willing to believe that foodcoats is lighting rod, and is semi-confirmed town.
• Neph jumped up significantly in my scumreads.
• I don't really see how emc and Chaqa could be scum together, and if one is scum I think emc is more likely, however:
• I don't see why emc would lie about Donny being the tracker. Town could have a coroner or something like that, which could make emc's claim really risky if emc is scum trying to spread misinformation. So I'm inclined to believe Chaqa's story about emc being 3p that takes on the first dead role.
That's not a bad point.
Although if emc is a rolethief and he had inadvertently confessed that to Chaqa before realizing he had stolen a mafia role, claiming Tracker was his only option.
That was one thing I thought of. EMC even said he wanted to see how the first few hours of night 1 went before revealing his role, though he did admit to being 3P almost immediately. So, I think he didn't trust me, more than he was trying to mislead me.

I lean toward EMC being a Tracker, either town or 3P-aligned.

It's possible he is a member of a 3P faction that is now a Tracker for them, I suppose.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2217 Post by kgray » Fri May 01, 2020 2:48 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:43 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:41 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm
There's a lot going on and I've only skimmed from EON to here. I'm going back to re-read closely now, but first impressions are:

• I'm willing to believe that foodcoats is lighting rod, and is semi-confirmed town.
• Neph jumped up significantly in my scumreads.
• I don't really see how emc and Chaqa could be scum together, and if one is scum I think emc is more likely, however:
• I don't see why emc would lie about Donny being the tracker. Town could have a coroner or something like that, which could make emc's claim really risky if emc is scum trying to spread misinformation. So I'm inclined to believe Chaqa's story about emc being 3p that takes on the first dead role.
That's not a bad point.
Although if emc is a rolethief and he had inadvertently confessed that to Chaqa before realizing he had stolen a mafia role, claiming Tracker was his only option.
Is a rolethief always mafia? If emc is mafia and he'd stolen scum!Donny's role, then emc wouldn't have "realized" he'd stolen a mafia role. He'd have known from the beginning. If he's a 3p roletheif, isn't that what Chaqa is saying? If he's a town rolethief, why would he lie about Donny's role? Is it possible that stealing Donny's role would change emc's alignment?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2218 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri May 01, 2020 2:48 pm

xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:43 pm
xorxes wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:41 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:37 pm
There's a lot going on and I've only skimmed from EON to here. I'm going back to re-read closely now, but first impressions are:

• I'm willing to believe that foodcoats is lighting rod, and is semi-confirmed town.
• Neph jumped up significantly in my scumreads.
• I don't really see how emc and Chaqa could be scum together, and if one is scum I think emc is more likely, however:
• I don't see why emc would lie about Donny being the tracker. Town could have a coroner or something like that, which could make emc's claim really risky if emc is scum trying to spread misinformation. So I'm inclined to believe Chaqa's story about emc being 3p that takes on the first dead role.
That's not a bad point.
Although if emc is a rolethief and he had inadvertently confessed that to Chaqa before realizing he had stolen a mafia role, claiming Tracker was his only option.
That's not a bad point.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#2219 Post by brainbomb » Fri May 01, 2020 2:48 pm

as soon as I show a list of lurkers

kgray and flash snap into action

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#2220 Post by kgray » Fri May 01, 2020 2:52 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:48 pm
as soon as I show a list of lurkers

kgray and flash snap into action
Suspicious timing, maybe, but yeah I'll freely admitting to lurking since EON. There was a lot of mechanics stuff going on and I didn't have time to parse through it. I'm starting to do that now.

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