M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[foodcoats]

I was meaning to ask this earlier... isn't Chaqa more active when he's town? I think my main point of comparison was when he was cop and he was a true paladin that game. Not sure if that was just because he was a PR.

[Foxcastle]

I feel I have to dispel some concerns I have read about me lurking. I am simply trying to read through the posts and come up with my reasons to voting how I vote. I am a teacher, and our predicament on this island started at the same time as assessment season at my school (which is functioning via Zoom). Add to that I am in an opposite time zone, so when I am awake most of you are catching ZZZZs. For example, I have been putting an exam online for the last few hours after 8 hours of school, dinner and a little downtime, and now It is 2:30am and time to sleep.
Vote ##Donny Dude
That scumslip on Secretary role did him in.

Oh. Bismarck did vote!

##CALL GM: are you counting this as a valid vote?

[brainbomb]

guys in order to vote themarche

marche does not work
neph tried and donny tried

the bot doesnt realize marche is themarche

[brainbomb]

vecna are you voting me tomorrow regardless of what donny flips?

[brainbomb]

I wanna base my night action around your answer

[Donny Dude]

guys in order to vote themarche

marche does not work
neph tried and donny tried

the bot doesnt realize marche is themarche

Thanks
##vote themarche

[rdrivera2005]

Why would scum!Donny muse as to whether his team has a role that it has?

Vecna and xorxes previously tried to cornhole Donny for saying "pete bot."

This stinks.

I will be shocked if Donny is not the tracker.

You sound like worcej from M1010 who was always sure when someone was about to get lynched as town.

Haha I'm guessing worcej was scum? Honestly as scum I usually distance from the D1 wagon so I also sound like myscumself.

With 14 votes though it kinda looks like bussing. Scum wouldn't all pile on as quickly if Donny was town.

Come on, everybody is voting him, town or scum, I didn't vote him before because I want to see if someone will try to save him, but if he is scum, his teammates just jumped on him.
The Tracker claim is interesting. Not what I expect from a scum Donny as it's a provable role, but with daychat it might have been teached.

[Vecna]

If im around to vote tomorrow ill start thinking about what that vote should be

[Chaqa]

If Donny does flip scum, I think that summit, brain, and Bozo look bad based on VCA.

Can you elaborate on this?

I will if/when he flips scum. Not bothered to do the legwork yet.

[Chaqa]

So... Donny is claiming tracker. Thoughts:
1. This is a valuable role if town
2. This is an easily provable role

It does irk me, but I don't think scum would claim this lightly. We could do something like, ask 2 people to step forward who have visiting roles, but not super important ones, and tell Donny to pick one of them to track.

Then, that person could confirm who they visited after Donny reports.

That said, there's so much room for mafia manipulation that it may be too much of an investment. I say we either lynch him now, or presume his innocence and validity as Tracker going forward. No half-measures.

Except a scum tracker (or JOAT) is also a thing

Everything can be a thing. We know nothing lol

[Donny Dude]

You sound like worcej from M1010 who was always sure when someone was about to get lynched as town.

Haha I'm guessing worcej was scum? Honestly as scum I usually distance from the D1 wagon so I also sound like myscumself.

With 14 votes though it kinda looks like bussing. Scum wouldn't all pile on as quickly if Donny was town.

Come on, everybody is voting him, town or scum, I didn't vote him before because I want to see if someone will try to save him, but if he is scum, his teammates just jumped on him.
The Tracker claim is interesting. Not what I expect from a scum Donny as it's a provable role, but with daychat it might have been teached.

If I was scum why would I leak there being a daychat to draw attention to myself
Would that not be a shitty move?

[Chaqa]

I was meaning to ask this earlier... isn't Chaqa more active when he's town? I think my main point of comparison was when he was cop and he was a true paladin that game. Not sure if that was just because he was a PR.

My activity level largely depends on how engaged I can be with the setup and the players, as well as my free time. This game has been one of my more active Day 1's, mostly because I've found the events interesting. Plus, I have some more time with the quarantine stuff.

[summit_fever]

I will add that theorizing is one of things I am better at.

Why were you so defensive towards me compared to other players
voting and suggesting you?

?

[Donny Dude]

I will add that theorizing is one of things I am better at.

Why were you so defensive towards me compared to other players
voting and suggesting you?

?

I dunno
Gut feeling
Bad vibes
Maybe it is wrong

[summit_fever]

Why were you so defensive towards me compared to other players
voting and suggesting you?

?

I dunno
Gut feeling
Bad vibes
Maybe it is wrong

I'd like more than that.

[Donny Dude]

?

I dunno
Gut feeling
Bad vibes
Maybe it is wrong

I'd like more than that.

Summit, I am current lynch
Why do you care?

[summit_fever]

I dunno
Gut feeling
Bad vibes
Maybe it is wrong

I'd like more than that.

Summit, I am current lynch
Why do you care?

You did see my vote move away from you, no?

[Chaqa]

Action Matrix:

Donny Scum, We lynch him -> Great!
Donny Scum, We don't lynch him -> He misleads us as Tracker
Donny Tracker, We lynch him -> Information gained
Donny Tracker, We don't lynch him -> He gives us info as Tracker

The issue with scenario 4 (and 2) is that any info we get from him as a Tracker is not reliable. Mafia will either roleblock him, or they will instruct him to claim roleblock, while roleblocking their nightkill targets.

I think he's probably the Tracker, but I don't think the logic works out to make it better to not just lynch him and know for sure.

The most utility and information his role can reasonably give us now is as a corpse, even if he is the Tracker.

[Foxcastle]

Not sure what to think of Donny's tracker claim. That seems like an odd scum claim, either to fake or to try to draw a CC.

But I think the point someone made about him knowing about the secretary role and not knowing about the Peter bot is insightful.

[brainbomb]

Action Matrix:

Donny Scum, We lynch him -> Great!
Donny Scum, We don't lynch him -> He misleads us as Tracker
Donny Tracker, We lynch him -> Information gained
Donny Tracker, We don't lynch him -> He gives us info as Tracker

The issue with scenario 4 (and 2) is that any info we get from him as a Tracker is not reliable. Mafia will either roleblock him, or they will instruct him to claim roleblock, while roleblocking their nightkill targets.

I think he's probably the Tracker, but I don't think the logic works out to make it better to not just lynch him and know for sure.

The most utility and information his role can reasonably give us now is as a corpse, even if he is the Tracker.

if thats towns only invest do you feel that way