M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[Foxcastle]

als0 f0x isnt scum s0 I fuIIy refuse t0 even ackn0wIedge such a ridicuI0us wag0n

How can you be so completely certain of this?

I assume someone else already harassed Jamiet for why he changed the characters in the quote? If not, why did you do that, Jamiet? (I'm asking on behalf of yourself, since if you weren't the one to have done it, you would have been insistent on an explanation...)

[Donny Dude]

Told you I am donny from Big lebowski and all over the place
I will try not to respond anymore Brainbomb as I have gotten frustrated and heated
Now I am pissed off at myself over my play.
I will be rereading
See you all in a bit.

[xorxes]

I spent a lot of time last game trying to set people straight on my meta. I would prefer not to have to do that this game.

You and worcej were presenting your respective metas in very similar manner: "I always look scummy", "I'm always scumread when I'm town", "that's my towntell", "woe me". I would appreciate it very much if you don't start with that again.

I find this to be a mischaracterization. I don't assert that I always look scummy, I assert that people think I do; and it's not a towntell, it's a baseline. But it's really up to town, isn't it.

I'm pretty sure that the word "towntell" was used in this respect, either by you or by worcej. Let me look it up, wait a sec... Fair enough, it was worcej:

[*]I usually get annoying and distract the town from actually finding scum in the process of defending myself from a scum read. It feels like few people have recognized this type of behavior as my towntell and just keep going.

In any case, my impression was that you and him were arguing more or less the same thing.

[Foxcastle]

Because Brainbomb has been fixated on me being scum nearly the entire game and I want to know if he has any other scum reads because if I am so scummy,
Why is he voting for Flash?

How does voting for yourself help with any of that?

Two reasons
one I have outlined
two. I currently don't see any good lynches

If you know you are town, any lynch is better than yourself because there is a chance they are scum. So you should be finding literally anyone else to be a better lynch than you.

[Foxcastle]

You and worcej were presenting your respective metas in very similar manner: "I always look scummy", "I'm always scumread when I'm town", "that's my towntell", "woe me". I would appreciate it very much if you don't start with that again.

I find this to be a mischaracterization. I don't assert that I always look scummy, I assert that people think I do; and it's not a towntell, it's a baseline. But it's really up to town, isn't it.

I'm pretty sure that the word "towntell" was used in this respect, either by you or by worcej. Let me look it up, wait a sec... Fair enough, it was worcej:

[*]I usually get annoying and distract the town from actually finding scum in the process of defending myself from a scum read. It feels like few people have recognized this type of behavior as my towntell and just keep going.

In any case, my impression was that you and him were arguing more or less the same thing.

Maybe if we'd had this conversation last game, we'd have caught him, because I'm not/wasn't saying it's a towntell. I think that's an important distinction.

[e.m.c^42]

But for future reference, as of this point kgray, xorxes, emc, jamie

[Foxcastle]

als0 f0x isnt scum s0 I fuIIy refuse t0 even ackn0wIedge such a ridicuI0us wag0n

How can you be so completely certain of this?

Like, going to the trouble to resize the 0s...

But it turns out that the right way to match 0 to o is to go with size=73, like this: o0

[Nephthys]

Yea Donny is scum.

"I am annoyed at my own play"

[kgray]

How does voting for yourself help with any of that?

Two reasons
one I have outlined
two. I currently don't see any good lynches

The only way someone prefers to be lynched over someone else is if they are scum trying to save a more valuable teammate. Otherwise, as town, you would always prefer to lynch someone who has a chance of being scum than you who you would know for sure is town.

Unless you're worcej.

[Foxcastle]

Yea Donny is scum.

"I am annoyed at my own play"

I agree that Donny could definitely be scum and succumbed to newb-scum nerves.

[kgray]

Told you I am donny from Big lebowski and all over the place
I will try not to respond anymore Brainbomb as I have gotten frustrated and heated
Now I am pissed off at myself over my play.
I will be rereading
See you all in a bit.

Interesting. You do not seem heated or pissed off at all.

[bozotheclown]

I dont have any reason to think all 4 of those are town. but If they are id say we probably lose this game

I agree
##Vote Donny

##VOTE Donny Dude

I am always willing to vote for someone who votes for themselves.

[xorxes]

als0 f0x isnt scum s0 I fuIIy refuse t0 even ackn0wIedge such a ridicuI0us wag0n

How can you be so completely certain of this?

Like, going to the trouble to resize the 0s...

But it turns out that the right way to match 0 to o is to go with size=73, like this: o0

This is so bizarre.

[summit_fever]

Yea Donny is scum.

"I am annoyed at my own play"

I agree that Donny could definitely be scum and succumbed to newb-scum nerves.

He could also be a townie that was growing increasingly concerned he was at risk of being lynched. If Donny is scum he's done a fairly good job today getting some of the heat off his back. I'm currently more neutral on him, and feeling more confused.

[bozotheclown]

Not sure what you mean. You thought I was townslipping? How could what I said be a townslip? If anything it would be a scumslip because I guessed correctly what only scum could have known.

Or if what you thought was related to what TheMarche said, I don't see the connection.

I meant that it was a "blatant townslip" (disregarding 3P) because the mafia would know if they have a factional roleblock, and that I also wondered if it could be constructed.

Well, it obviously was not a slip of any kind, real or constructed, since I was perfectly aware of the implications of what I was asking, and it is strange that you would think I may not have been.

I did not mean to imply you were not aware of the implications. Call it what you want, but if you are mafia, you were asking a question that you already knew the answer to, and therefore constructing a question to make you look like town.

[xorxes]

I meant that it was a "blatant townslip" (disregarding 3P) because the mafia would know if they have a factional roleblock, and that I also wondered if it could be constructed.

Well, it obviously was not a slip of any kind, real or constructed, since I was perfectly aware of the implications of what I was asking, and it is strange that you would think I may not have been.

I did not mean to imply you were not aware of the implications. Call it what you want, but if you are mafia, you were asking a question that you already knew the answer to, and therefore constructing a question to make you look like town.

Fine, but obviously not a townslip. There's no way you can conclude anything interesting from that question, because it is something I would have asked as either alignment when I noticed that worcej had most likely had an oversight.

It's very different from a townslip, which is something someone does unaware of what they are doing. So even if you believe I'm town, you cannot call that a townslip.

[foodcoats]

This is an odd line to take

It feels standard for xorxes, but it is unusual that brainbomb, who is incredibly experienced at Mafia and very creative in his interpretation of the game state, did not consider 1) daychat 2) an inventor role.

Ooooo

I'm curious how this affects your read of him?

Of brain? I would consider it supporting evidence if he does something actually scummy.

[brainbomb]

It feels standard for xorxes, but it is unusual that brainbomb, who is incredibly experienced at Mafia and very creative in his interpretation of the game state, did not consider 1) daychat 2) an inventor role.

Ooooo

I'm curious how this affects your read of him?

Of brain? I would consider it supporting evidence if he does something actually scummy.

finally someone who connects A to B

[brainbomb]

As with all things, im towny until I mislynch anyone or try to save a scum by accident. thus the sport of mafia is to not do those things.

I just cant resist the joy that comes from living an edgy lifestyle

[brainbomb]

and heres where brainbomb gets funky