M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

[brainbomb]

I see a majestic peterlund on the horizon. our botless days are neigh

[Foxcastle]

I see a majestic peterlund on the horizon. our botless days are neigh

Too bad. It was going to be a very interesting shitshow without it. (Especially for the GM, what with certain players hiding votes in big blocks of text...)

[SarahK24]

You never answered my question.

What questions
Also ##vote bozo

I asked you a question about last game because from reading the last day of that game, it was not clear to me why you were voting the way you were, and that is relevant to this game in that it is helpful to know the reasons for your votes if you are town and are trying to hep solve the game.

I am currently voting for you because so far you seem to be evasive, first by claiming you do not remember what I was was asking about, then by saying it does not have anything to do with this game.

Do you understand why rdrivera wanted to lynch you early in the previous game?

No I don't

[Foxcastle]

I don't like Bozo's push on SarahK, but I think it's townie of him.

[xorxes]

##VOTE Foxcastle

Asking about the composition of the villain teams seems very irrelevant. A facade. As if Fox cares. Analyzing completely unknowable information rather than playing... not townie.

The big quote that xorxes pointed out could be a crumb seems more like a fakecrumb that's intentionally meant to look like a crumb we'd take as townie. Building the big lie. Scummy.

Hmmm, yes. I shouldve actually been the one pointing this out. But im happy you get to do it instead to reinforce my feeling on your slot.

I dont think ill ever want to lynch foodcoats this game.

Not sure if I prefer foxcastle over my own vote atm, since that is also a juicy scumcatch.

I disagree. I think forcing scum to make "guesses" is a towny thing.

[SarahK24]

I don't see the value of 'guessing' the scum-numbers.

It's either going to lead to false security of false insecurity. More chaos.

This is very insightful.
Hmmm

[SarahK24]

I am giving scum points to rdr and Chaqa for arguing that we should vote Sarah because she is bad-town.

Where are my scum points?

I have played scum and 3P more than I have played town on here, and "this person is scum OR bad-town so they're a positive EV lynch" is a great D1 argument that I enjoy employing from those perspectives.

As scum you'd rather lynch someone who is likely to hurt town later on?

As town, personally, I don't want to lynch any town, and it's bit early to be arguing as though we are out of options and therefore should policy Sarah based on the last game, isn't it?

Not if she's not trying to improve or learn from last game at all.

Just to let y'all know I am trying

[brainbomb]

I see a majestic peterlund on the horizon. our botless days are neigh

Too bad. It was going to be a very interesting shitshow without it. (Especially for the GM, what with certain players hiding votes in big blocks of text...)

you seem to want chaos and disunity. is this because youre being scumread by a few people who arent trying to read you fairly?

[brainbomb]

I don't like Bozo's push on SarahK, but I think it's townie of him.

Again, really not trying to straw man but am I to assume you do like sarahs push on bozo, and think its justified?

[SarahK24]

What questions
Also ##vote bozo

I asked you a question about last game because from reading the last day of that game, it was not clear to me why you were voting the way you were, and that is relevant to this game in that it is helpful to know the reasons for your votes if you are town and are trying to hep solve the game.

I am currently voting for you because so far you seem to be evasive, first by claiming you do not remember what I was was asking about, then by saying it does not have anything to do with this game.

Do you understand why rdrivera wanted to lynch you early in the previous game?

And I was right. Honestly, I think we should lynch her today in this game too. But I doubt the giant egos around would agree with this, they need to make a brilliant catch con D1 instead of playing for the team.

##vote Sarah

I still think that Donny Dude is town. And it's not too scummy to be scum, but the way he approached the game. His suggestion isn't good obviously, you either massclaim or not, but he saw a discussion on this and sticked his neck to make a suggestion. This doesn't seem a newbie scum to me.

I dont quite understand why you want to lynch me this game... I haven't done anything scummy
Well to my knowledge

[xorxes]

Like Xorxes, you've missed the point.

And think for a moment about how having everyone guess (or "guess") about the scum teams could be valuable for town later on before you dismiss it as irrelevant.

Please, enlighten us, because this smells

Sigh As the philosopher said, "A man who only sniffs his own ass will say a rose stinks."

1) Xorxes was triggered by my Waiting for Godot quote. That quote was in response to Jamiet's lorem ipsum quote, which included a vote on me. I was responding in kind with my own vote on Jamiet hidden in that block of text, which Xorxes (and apparently most others) missed.

So no, it's not some secret crumb or randomness. I was responding to Jamiet's vote in-kind with my own block of nonsense.

2) I'm assuming that the scum team and 3rd party know how many of them are on their team. (The alternative where they don't know is on their respective teams would be madness and obviate the whole point of the game.) Making everyone guess forces the scum team and 3rd party to decide, without coordination, how to engineer their guesses so that they don't end up looking suspicious later on.

1) I don't think I was triggered by your quote, I thought it was a crumb that would be sorted out in due time. I did miss the vote because it was well hidden and I only read the first few lines, Googled them and only skimmed the rest but didn't see the vote.

2) Sort of agree, but mostly it puts scum in an uncomfortable position now.

[SarahK24]

@Chaqa - You didn't ask me but I would shoot Sarah.

Why are u happy about it

[kgray]

Just to let y'all know I am trying

That's great, and I'm glad to hear it. If you are town, I'd like for you to convince me that it's true.

Can you explain what you think the main goal of town is in this game, and how you think we can accomplish that goal?

[xorxes]

I guess that there are 4 Mafia, one of whom is a traitor, and two un-connected Third Parties.

I believe Foxcastle said we should not explain our guesses, so I won't. But this is a genuine guess for which I have a solid reason unrelated to my own role.

The information given only speaks of one 3p faction. I think it either has more than one member or it starts at one but it can grow.

[SarahK24]

@kgray - if you were a vigilante with a shot right now, who would you shoot and why?

Well I wouldn't shoot right now if waiting was an option, but if I did have to shoot right now it would probably be Sarah. I can understand new people being overwhelmed but it really bugs me that she doesn't seem to care at all how town would play the game. And this isn't her first game anymore, so there are things she should have figured out by now that she seems to be missing. I don't know if it's intentional because she's scum, but even if she's not I agree with rivera that it's a mistake to keep her around if she won't even try.

Well I get that it's no longer my first game... but I mean yall didn't teach me much so it's kinda hard figuring random shit out on my own.....
Last time I was town... and who is to say I'm town again... who knows. But I am trying and I dont think I should be lynched I haven't done anything terribly wrong..... yet

[xorxes]

I'm going to say that bozo is town. I was going to ask the massclaim question, but his answer was good.

xorxes Why does bozo's answer make you read him town?
here it is:
"dargorygel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:05 pm
So is anyone going to suggest a mass claim?
It would probably be a benefit to town, but I am not going to bother suggesting it because I have a good idea how that would turn out."

I didn't like his answer... why would this benefit town?
Do you, xorxes, think massclaim would help us? Why?
(Bozo can answer, too, if he wishes.)

I assume you asked this before reading the whole thread and you already know my answer when you got caught up. If not, ask again.

[SarahK24]

I am giving scum points to rdr and Chaqa for arguing that we should vote Sarah because she is bad-town.

Where are my scum points?

I have played scum and 3P more than I have played town on here, and "this person is scum OR bad-town so they're a positive EV lynch" is a great D1 argument that I enjoy employing from those perspectives.

As scum you'd rather lynch someone who is likely to hurt town later on?

As town, personally, I don't want to lynch any town, and it's bit early to be arguing as though we are out of options and therefore should policy Sarah based on the last game, isn't it?

Not if she's not trying to improve or learn from last game at all.

How many times do I have to say I'm trying
Geez

[brainbomb]

@kgray - if you were a vigilante with a shot right now, who would you shoot and why?

Well I wouldn't shoot right now if waiting was an option, but if I did have to shoot right now it would probably be Sarah. I can understand new people being overwhelmed but it really bugs me that she doesn't seem to care at all how town would play the game. And this isn't her first game anymore, so there are things she should have figured out by now that she seems to be missing. I don't know if it's intentional because she's scum, but even if she's not I agree with rivera that it's a mistake to keep her around if she won't even try.

Well I get that it's no longer my first game... but I mean yall didn't teach me much so it's kinda hard figuring random shit out on my own.....
Last time I was town... and who is to say I'm town again... who knows. But I am trying and I dont think I should be lynched I haven't done anything terribly wrong..... yet

you are
thats literally your job

[SarahK24]

Just to let y'all know I am trying

That's great, and I'm glad to hear it. If you are town, I'd like for you to convince me that it's true.

Can you explain what you think the main goal of town is in this game, and how you think we can accomplish that goal?

Main goal of town is to not die or kill eachother... they want all the scum to die

[SarahK24]

Just to let y'all know I am trying

That's great, and I'm glad to hear it. If you are town, I'd like for you to convince me that it's true.

Can you explain what you think the main goal of town is in this game, and how you think we can accomplish that goal?

Main goal of town is to not die or kill eachother... they want all the scum to die

We can accomplish this goal by analyzing messages and tone to figure out who is who... we can share our thoughts and hope that we don't die in the process