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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#241 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:24 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:47 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:45 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:31 pm


Mental note: if either brainbomb or fox turns out scum, the other is not.

Even though this soft of whatever it is is obvious as fuck, I doubt teammates would be calling it out and ruining whatever stupid shenanigans the other had planned.
There are two scum factions though...
Also, brainbomb?

This probably says something about Vecna and Jamie/brain as well.
I mean, we do not know if the 3p is a faction.

and making a mental note that theyre unlikely to be scum together seemed worth it.

Regardless, bb feels pretty towny to me so far.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#242 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:25 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:48 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:47 pm
SarahK24 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:47 pm


I am from north orange county
Unlikely to be scum/3p together
with maf chat not yet open, why cant scum casually get to know each other ITT
Not something newbscum think about in my experience

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#243 Post by brainbomb » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:27 pm

so in m41 there was a commuter that gained powers if it earned a certain amount of karma

mafia power thief needed 6 karma to activate

universal backup needed 10 to activate

scum probably has a role that gets powers with karma. chaqa may be giving out large amounts to bury who he is empowering. I think damo and fox used this strat with squiggs in m41

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#244 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:27 pm

Donny Dude wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:15 pm
I have an idea
Maybe have everyone rate their own roles in terms of importance on a 1-10 scale?
I do not think we want to make that assessment available to scum, and I do not think it would help inform a decision on a mass claim.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#245 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:27 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:53 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:34 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:29 pm
What does pete bot do?
Hmmm. Newby gimmick to utilize acting clueless and major dumbtelling as scum?

Everyone could take some pretty good guesses what a bots purpose in mafia is id say.
Yep. I was also going to check if anyone had called it pete bot before, but I heven't so maybe someone has.
sharp. didnt even notice/think of that part

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#246 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:28 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:54 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:53 pm
@rivera, you may start reading here. It is safe to ignore everything that went on before.
Such bullshit, I already got 3 solid reads from the preceding pages

This is a standard Xorxes scum line of approach to the game
ignore this post after explanation that followed

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#247 Post by Donny Dude » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:28 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:27 pm
Donny Dude wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:15 pm
I have an idea
Maybe have everyone rate their own roles in terms of importance on a 1-10 scale?
I do not think we want to make that assessment available to scum, and I do not think it would help inform a decision on a mass claim.
I know, but seeing how people view themselves might be a good indicator

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#248 Post by brainbomb » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:28 pm

CONGO - KARMA CHAMEALEON

You may choose a player during the night. If that player receives 5 or more Karma during the following day, you may become a copy of their role during that day. Your alignment will not change

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#249 Post by brainbomb » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:29 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:22 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:06 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:47 pm


I do not understand your thought process.
OMG, what is this? Are you imitating emc?
Does it surprise you that Brainbomb does not understand Brainbomb's thought process?
I dont understand why youve chosen to start insulting me already when ive done absolutely nothing wrong

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#250 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:31 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:07 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:04 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:43 pm
karma activated roles did exist in M41. Civilization mafia. I created the idea of roles that gain powers from giving out a specific number of karma
I remember that, but I just can't believe worcej would come up with a role that is required to +1 every post of the game. That would be too cruel.
I would say 50-100 karma is likely. thats what m41 was. if it would help I can post the roles from that game
I doubt worcej would do them the same. have you considered chaqa might be scum who gains powers if he hits a certain number?
That may be.

The way worcej informed us that that +1's were allowed was kind of weird. First he hid it where nobody would read it, then he highlighted it as if he had forgotten saying something, but he repeated the same thing with different words, as far as I could tell, so the repetition seemed pointless unless it was to make sure people would read it. So I don't know if we can read something there, but it was weird.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#251 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:33 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:02 pm
My role is pretty dumb. I have to +1 every post in the thread.
This has already drawn a lot of attention. Was it a joke? If not, what happens if you do not? Assuming you do not really have to +1 every post, do +1s figure into your role in another way?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#252 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:34 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:07 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:04 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:43 pm
karma activated roles did exist in M41. Civilization mafia. I created the idea of roles that gain powers from giving out a specific number of karma
I remember that, but I just can't believe worcej would come up with a role that is required to +1 every post of the game. That would be too cruel.
I would say 50-100 karma is likely. thats what m41 was. if it would help I can post the roles from that game
I doubt worcej would do them the same. have you considered chaqa might be scum who gains powers if he hits a certain number?
Hmmm, I forgot about those types of mechanics.

Those counted on other people +1'ing your posts though.

A mechanic that powers your role if -you- +1 others just seems like a silly design that would favor people, like, EMC?

I guess its a possibility we cannot rule out regardless.

+1'ing posts as a mechanic is something that, in a vacuum, I feel will be designed as a 3p or scum role way more often. It adds added complexity and challenge to get away with that nonsense for those factions

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#253 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:34 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:29 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:22 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:06 pm


OMG, what is this? Are you imitating emc?
Does it surprise you that Brainbomb does not understand Brainbomb's thought process?
I dont understand why youve chosen to start insulting me already when ive done absolutely nothing wrong
I am not insulting you. Do remain calm. Sit back for a moment and listen to the sound of the waves lapping at the shore. Have a coconut. All will be well.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#254 Post by Nephthys » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:34 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:19 pm
Nephthys wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:16 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:14 pm
it seems like neph and demonrhk are very disappointed I dont have them as townreads
I can't continue without you townreading me dearest brainbomb.
I detect sarcasm. and a sense of self importance. perhaps a feeling that I should know you better than I do. maybe some disappointment that I vigged you 2 games ago. Fear not, I am incapable of doing that this game
Sarcasm correct
Self-importance? Hardly we both know I'm rather trash at scumhunting
Should you know me better? Perhaps?
Vigging? I forgot about that, it was terrible play but a town death does not a game make so life goes on.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#255 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:36 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:24 pm
I mean, we do not know if the 3p is a faction.
I do not understand your thought process:
worcej wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:12 pm

The only information you have is the following:
  1. There is one mafia faction, one town faction, and a 3P faction

    <snip>

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#256 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:37 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:16 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:55 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:54 pm
I'm going to say that bozo is town. I was going to ask the massclaim question, but his answer was good.
Oh snap.

So you didnt want Rdrivera to get that bozo townread?
Vecna, are you being serious? This was a joke from Xorxes, that is related to our last two games together.
yes, yes, I adjusted my estimate accordingly when that was explained

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#257 Post by Nephthys » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:37 pm

Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:19 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:41 pm
kgray feels business as usual and it seems perfectly reasonable. nothing awkward so far.

Xorx town
bozo town
vecna town
dargo town
kgray town

get on my core lets win this one fast
Agreed on the first 3. Will take your word on the last 2.

Were getting somewhere
Hmmm

Why take his word, darg is probably under the most suspicion so far, taking his word seems a little... lazy?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#258 Post by Vecna » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:37 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:17 pm
Vecna wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:16 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:36 pm
vecnas takes so far I feel the exact opposite about.

□Dont think jamie is 3p
□definetely am not scum with fox, nor is my align dependent on fox
□disagree with donny dude faking ignorance

that being said vecna is town. and his process is true to form
I have feelings about this post.

Like, if this was terminator2 you would definately be a ceradyne employee
isnt it cyberdyne?
is it? ill let you have this one since im feeling generous

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#259 Post by Nephthys » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:39 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:27 pm
so in m41 there was a commuter that gained powers if it earned a certain amount of karma

mafia power thief needed 6 karma to activate

universal backup needed 10 to activate

scum probably has a role that gets powers with karma. chaqa may be giving out large amounts to bury who he is empowering. I think damo and fox used this strat with squiggs in m41
Somewhat.

I think it more likely Chaqa is indicating to his scum team that he needs +1s.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#260 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:40 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:11 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:32 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:16 pm


Why it's a good idea to town to massclaim in a closed setup?
Because it forces scum to come up with lies from the start, which they then have to maintain, probably even before they have a chance to coordinate.
Why do you assume they have to lie?
If they have a roleblocker and they don't lie, then that power becomes useless. If they have a strongman or ninja or godfather, they would have to lie. Even if they have non-typical scum roles, they mostly become useless if they don't lie.

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