Mini Mafia II: Shakespeare Mash Game Thread

[rdrivera2005]

##vote rdrivera

Any reason or pure OMGUS because I voted you last day?

[bo_sox48]

##VOTE Vash

[Ezio]

Mostly OMGUS

[bozotheclown]

I'm not responding to anything that's not addressed to "Your Royal Highness"

Is there a town reason why you are not sharing everything you know about how the throne works, or do you have a personal win condition you are protecting?

There is a NAI reason that I am not sharing everything I know because I'm hosed this weekend and all this week.

But, here's the sitch: there isn't a line of succession, because no one started on the throne. You can have a line of succession if there's no one there. There are rival claimants—a town claimant and a mafia claimant. When the mafia claimant dies, the town claimant is king.

So, we know Yavuz was mafia and that when he died, a king was announced, and therefore I am town.

Does this mean that if you die a new king will be announced and he will be mafia? Should we lynch you to identify another scum?

[bozotheclown]

Maybe the mafia are not NKing Foxcastle because it would reveal one of them.

[thamrick]

I also have been pretty confused by the NKs. Like Vecna or Foxy make a lot more sense than darg and Durga.

[Foxcastle]

@Bozo: no, because it's not a line of succession, it's a rivalry. As far as I know, there was a single mafia option and a single town option, and I think that's pretty clear from what happened. One dies, another is crowned. If there were three or more, why would that be true?

[bo_sox48]

I also have been pretty confused by the NKs. Like Vecna or Foxy make a lot more sense than darg and Durga.

They're probably PR hunting. Who did Durga vote for for reasons she didn't want to share yesterday?

[Ezio]

Personally I doubt scum would have only 1 person who could get the throne. If it's seriously a rivalry thing we should lynch Foxcastle and then lynch whoever inherits the throne next.

I seriously doubt that's how it works.

[thamrick]

Personally I doubt scum would have only 1 person who could get the throne. If it's seriously a rivalry thing we should lynch Foxcastle and then lynch whoever inherits the throne next.

I seriously doubt that's how it works.

Dumb.

Foxy likely got the throne because he was Yav's rival. I'm surprised that a scum didn't take the throne after killing Durga since she was King Richard. Though I guess it wouldn't make sense to reveal scum that way.

[Ezio]

So your argument is there are 2 thrones active at the same tmie?

[thamrick]

So your argument is there are 2 thrones active at the same tmie?

No. I just think it would be stupidly game-breaking for BB to be like:

"Foxcastle has died. He was _____ (Hamlet e.g.) of town.

Ezio has claimed the throne!"

[thamrick]

I don't know how it would be announced if a scum took the throne

[Ezio]

I mean, didn't they do exactly that? "x" person has died. "new person has taken the throne"

[thamrick]

Right. But it was Yav (scum) has died. Foxcastle has taken the throne.

Townclearing someone mechanically is definitely different from outing scum mechanically.

[bozotheclown]

Right. But it was Yav (scum) has died. Foxcastle has taken the throne.

Townclearing someone mechanically is definitely different from outing scum mechanically.

Since we do not know how it works, Foxcastle could have the same chances of being scum as anyone else.

[Ezio]

##vote Tham.

[Foxcastle]

Except it would be a dumb setup for scum to have contradictory win conditions, i.e., two scum could become king.

Also, I'm inclined to think that we simply got lucky that Yavuz was both scum and the counter claimant, and that if it had been the other way around, town v. town claims would be just as believable. If it had been "Foxcastle has died, he was town, Yavuz is king!" there wouldn't be reason to suspect that the rivalry was scum/town. But given that Yavuz flipped scum, that's a reasonable inference.

In any case, ##vote ezio

[reedeer1]

Vecna, why the three you choose?

I still think it’s Ezio for the aforementioned reasons.

[reedeer1]

##vote Ezio