M1010 Mini-Mafia

[SarahK24]

##vote bozo

Hey, I know this was a while ago, but what was the reasoning behind this? Was it just because he voted you?

If I am getting attacked for not reading close enough, I find it interesting you're not under the same scrutiny.

Well, I never criticized you.
Also...I was going around I couldn't find it.... would you mind repeating

[xorxes]

##vote bozo

Hey, I know this was a while ago, but what was the reasoning behind this? Was it just because he voted you?

If I am getting attacked for not reading close enough, I find it interesting you're not under the same scrutiny.

Do you really believe it's reasonable we should expect the same from her as from you?

It's not what you were advocating at the start of the game.

[worcej]

Hey, I know this was a while ago, but what was the reasoning behind this? Was it just because he voted you?

If I am getting attacked for not reading close enough, I find it interesting you're not under the same scrutiny.

Well, I never criticized you.
Also...I was going around I couldn't find it.... would you mind repeating

It isn't you who has been up my butt about not paying attention.

[worcej]

Hey, I know this was a while ago, but what was the reasoning behind this? Was it just because he voted you?

If I am getting attacked for not reading close enough, I find it interesting you're not under the same scrutiny.

Do you really believe it's reasonable we should expect the same from her as from you?

It's not what you were advocating at the start of the game.

I just find it interesting that we seem to all have different bars on your ladder of expectations. Makes it pretty easy to move the bars if you don't have some that are the same across the board.

[bozotheclown]

What do you make of worcej defending Fox when he claimed scum?

What do you think of their "frustration" today? Was it fake or real? It seemed real to me until worcej's reaction to Sarah, which seemed way over the top.

At the time I thought worcej could be doing that because he knew Foxcastle was town, which is still possible if I am wrong about Foxcastle.

I think their "frustration" is NAI. Foxcastle waiting until last to vote is scum indicative. He spent the day trying to figure out who he had the best chance of getting lynched.

If only one of them is scum, I have trouble seeing who is their partner. Neither is a good match for Sarah, and neither is a good match for you (unless lots of bussing). So it would have to be with brainbomb, if damo is town.

Waiting to vote makes sense if he wants to survive at all costs, which is contradictory with him saying it's bad to keep him for lylo. So yeah.

Foxcastle/brainbomb is possible, with Foxcastle, brainbomb, and Jamie as a scum team, you would expect them to bus each other. rdrivera thought it was you and Foxcastle, which could be right. I would still go with Foxcastle/worcej, but I do not understand why everyone moved to vote with Foxcastle.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Foxcastle

I am OK lynching Foxcastle or worcej today, but I am switching to Foxcastle because he seemed to be the preference of those I think are town.

[damo666]

@bozo & @Xorxes

are you around for EOD?

I've a feeling it may be important. There could be last minute movement if Fox or Sarah are bussing brain. (Or me or Xorxes for the completeness freaks).

[bozotheclown]

@bozo & @Xorxes

are you around for EOD?

I've a feeling it may be important. There could be last minute movement if Fox or Sarah are bussing brain. (Or me or Xorxes for the completeness freaks).

I except to be on at EOD.

[Foxcastle]

What do you make of worcej defending Fox when he claimed scum?

What do you think of their "frustration" today? Was it fake or real? It seemed real to me until worcej's reaction to Sarah, which seemed way over the top.

At the time I thought worcej could be doing that because he knew Foxcastle was town, which is still possible if I am wrong about Foxcastle.

I think their "frustration" is NAI. Foxcastle waiting until last to vote is scum indicative. He spent the day trying to figure out who he had the best chance of getting lynched.

If only one of them is scum, I have trouble seeing who is their partner. Neither is a good match for Sarah, and neither is a good match for you (unless lots of bussing). So it would have to be with brainbomb, if damo is town.

Waiting to vote makes sense if he wants to survive at all costs, which is contradictory with him saying it's bad to keep him for lylo. So yeah.

I am not saying it's bad to keep me alive at LyLo. I am saying that there are two paths here: one with me in LyLo and one without me, and Town needs to weigh those two options and the different risks they bring. And yes, there are risks with other options. Those can be weighed too.

[damo666]

Xpost with Bozo kind of makes my last post a bit redundant.

However I still think it important that townies be available at EOD (unless we get a runaway wagon but I think that unlikely).

I will be here.

[xorxes]

@bozo & @Xorxes

are you around for EOD?

I've a feeling it may be important. There could be last minute movement if Fox or Sarah are bussing brain. (Or me or Xorxes for the completeness freaks).

I expect to be here, yes.

[xorxes]

It is possible brainbomb is scum, but I would be surprised. I do not see what he would be trying to accomplish D1 EOD if Jamie was his partner.

What do you mean? When he was claiming Vengeful with a target on Jamie? Wouldn't that be just part of their show (if that's what it was)? Claiming PR could be giving Jamie an excuse not to vote for him.

[SarahK24]

If I am getting attacked for not reading close enough, I find it interesting you're not under the same scrutiny.

Do you really believe it's reasonable we should expect the same from her as from you?

It's not what you were advocating at the start of the game.

I just find it interesting that we seem to all have different bars on your ladder of expectations. Makes it pretty easy to move the bars if you don't have some that are the same across the board.

Like what???
Sometimes I just feel like asking because i forgot and I just want to know geez

[worcej]

Do you really believe it's reasonable we should expect the same from her as from you?

It's not what you were advocating at the start of the game.

I just find it interesting that we seem to all have different bars on your ladder of expectations. Makes it pretty easy to move the bars if you don't have some that are the same across the board.

Like what???
Sometimes I just feel like asking because i forgot and I just want to know geez

I am confused by your question.

I think it is interesting to note that xorxes indicates he has a different set of expectations from each person he is evaluating as possible scum. For some context, I approach an analysis on each person by looking at their actions and if they are behaving differently over the course of a game, then move to motivation and possible reasoning. It is the same bar for each person.

[damo666]

I just find it interesting that we seem to all have different bars on your ladder of expectations. Makes it pretty easy to move the bars if you don't have some that are the same across the board.

Like what???
Sometimes I just feel like asking because i forgot and I just want to know geez

I am confused by your question.

I think it is interesting to note that xorxes indicates he has a different set of expectations from each person he is evaluating as possible scum. For some context, I approach an analysis on each person by looking at their actions and if they are behaving differently over the course of a game, then move to motivation and possible reasoning. It is the same bar for each person.

@worcej is it not reasonable to have different expectations of an experienced player and a noob?

[worcej]

Like what???
Sometimes I just feel like asking because i forgot and I just want to know geez

I am confused by your question.

I think it is interesting to note that xorxes indicates he has a different set of expectations from each person he is evaluating as possible scum. For some context, I approach an analysis on each person by looking at their actions and if they are behaving differently over the course of a game, then move to motivation and possible reasoning. It is the same bar for each person.

@worcej is it not reasonable to have different expectations of an experienced player and a noob?

It is after a certain point - to continue to just look at her differently without any adjustment as the game goes on is a critical issue in any games. This is why Flavius came in on his first scum game and none of us (as far as I recall) believed him to be scum at the time and we ultimately lost thinking that way.

But beyond her, it seems to me that xorxes may have different baseline expectations for each individual person. I am pointing that out as being convenient because he could move them at will with little recourse.

[xorxes]

But beyond her, it seems to me that xorxes may have different baseline expectations for each individual person. I am pointing that out as being convenient because he could move them at will with little recourse.

I most definitely have different expectations for each person. I think most/all of us do. I expect brainbomb to be the top poster of the game, for example. When he isn't, something is strange. I'm not all that surprized if rivera is the lowest poster. So my expectations for rivera and brainbomb are pretty much opposite in that regard. I expect you to read the thread because even when you are several pages behind you almost make it a point to let us know that you are reading everything. So when you don't, that's noticeable.

[worcej]

In other news - my work network finally got smart and blocked peterbot as games. If they block webdip I will need to become significantly better at reading the game via mobile...

[SarahK24]

In other news - my work network finally got smart and blocked peterbot as games. If they block webdip I will need to become significantly better at reading the game via mobile...

Ouch....
I use my phone most of the time tbh

[worcej]

But beyond her, it seems to me that xorxes may have different baseline expectations for each individual person. I am pointing that out as being convenient because he could move them at will with little recourse.

I most definitely have different expectations for each person. I think most/all of us do. I expect brainbomb to be the top poster of the game, for example. When he isn't, something is strange. I'm not all that surprized if rivera is the lowest poster. So my expectations for rivera and brainbomb are pretty much opposite in that regard. I expect you to read the thread because even when you are several pages behind you almost make it a point to let us know that you are reading everything. So when you don't, that's noticeable.

I only did not do that because people expressed it is annoying when I did. So which is it?