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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2741 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:14 pm
worcej wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:05 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:59 pm
Lame It's my fault.
Because people stopped posting? That's an interesting notion.

Also, guess I get why I read you as different now.
I thought EOD was one hour earlier and hardclaimed.

I was expecting to try to get Jamiet lynched without having to claim, but after Brain fake claim I knew it will be really hard. I don't have a solid case on Jamiet it was a gut feeling that worked well on my Track.

Now we have to consider our options for tomorrow. I think we might need to lynch Sarah. She can't be in lylo, I hope now that you know I am town you consider this seriously.

Then we will know if we have one or two scum to catch.
I do not think there is much chance she is scum.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2742 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:14 pm
worcej wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:05 pm
Because people stopped posting? That's an interesting notion.

Also, guess I get why I read you as different now.
I thought EOD was one hour earlier and hardclaimed.

I was expecting to try to get Jamiet lynched without having to claim, but after Brain fake claim I knew it will be really hard. I don't have a solid case on Jamiet it was a gut feeling that worked well on my Track.

Now we have to consider our options for tomorrow. I think we might need to lynch Sarah. She can't be in lylo, I hope now that you know I am town you consider this seriously.

Then we will know if we have one or two scum to catch.
I do not think there is much chance she is scum.
I want her to talk more tomorrow, but I agree. And brainbomb may be town as well.

I need to look at damo again, and probably you bozo as well, but I thought Fox's and worcej's D3 was pretty horrible.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2743 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:50 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:14 pm


I thought EOD was one hour earlier and hardclaimed.

I was expecting to try to get Jamiet lynched without having to claim, but after Brain fake claim I knew it will be really hard. I don't have a solid case on Jamiet it was a gut feeling that worked well on my Track.

Now we have to consider our options for tomorrow. I think we might need to lynch Sarah. She can't be in lylo, I hope now that you know I am town you consider this seriously.

Then we will know if we have one or two scum to catch.
I do not think there is much chance she is scum.
I want her to talk more tomorrow, but I agree. And brainbomb may be town as well.

I need to look at damo again, and probably you bozo as well, but I thought Fox's and worcej's D3 was pretty horrible.
Damo exercise where he put Jamiet far ahead of the others when Jamiet wasn't under any pressure and Jamiet voting Damo D2 makes Damo my strongest townread at this point. Bozo second. And Fox is currently my top scumread with Xorxes and Worcej fighting for second spot.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2744 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:48 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:50 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 am


I do not think there is much chance she is scum.
I want her to talk more tomorrow, but I agree. And brainbomb may be town as well.

I need to look at damo again, and probably you bozo as well, but I thought Fox's and worcej's D3 was pretty horrible.
Damo exercise where he put Jamiet far ahead of the others when Jamiet wasn't under any pressure and Jamiet voting Damo D2 makes Damo my strongest townread at this point. Bozo second. And Fox is currently my top scumread with Xorxes and Worcej fighting for second spot.
Yes, those are good points for damo. Some of the interactions between bozo and Jamie also are good points for bozo. The post where Jamie lists people's opinions on Sarah (mostly negative) are good points for Sarah. The fights with brainbomb don't really look like theatrics to me despite what I told Jamie, so points for brainbomb. That basically leaves Fox and worcej, who as I said had a really poor showing D3.

Not sure why you think I'm scummy though. Because I thought your case on Jamie was bad? You should take into account that I did not have your privileged information, you shouldn't be holding that against me. Your case was bad. You were saying he was a floater and a coaster, but he was one of the most active players. And you were ignoring the real floaters. How could that give me confidence that you were being sincere? It didn't even cross my mind you were the watcher until you basically told me, because my best guesses for watcher were bozo or damo.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2745 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 13, 2020 3:07 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:48 am
It didn't even cross my mind you were the watcher until you basically told me, because my best guesses for watcher were bozo or damo.
And Jamiet actually. Jamiet also said one thing that made me think he might be the watcher.

I didn't think anyone had a successful watch though.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2746 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:20 am

Foxcastle wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:40 pm
Town to scum:

Jamiet
Xorxes
Worcej
EMC
Rdrivera
SarahK
Bozo
Brainbomb
Damo

Problem being, I don't think Bozo is scum. So it's probably Damo, Brainbomb, and let's just take a wild stab at Worcej or SarahK.
Why did you have worcej listed at the end over rdrivera and emc?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2747 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:24 am

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:48 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:50 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 am


I want her to talk more tomorrow, but I agree. And brainbomb may be town as well.

I need to look at damo again, and probably you bozo as well, but I thought Fox's and worcej's D3 was pretty horrible.
Damo exercise where he put Jamiet far ahead of the others when Jamiet wasn't under any pressure and Jamiet voting Damo D2 makes Damo my strongest townread at this point. Bozo second. And Fox is currently my top scumread with Xorxes and Worcej fighting for second spot.
Yes, those are good points for damo. Some of the interactions between bozo and Jamie also are good points for bozo. The post where Jamie lists people's opinions on Sarah (mostly negative) are good points for Sarah. The fights with brainbomb don't really look like theatrics to me despite what I told Jamie, so points for brainbomb. That basically leaves Fox and worcej, who as I said had a really poor showing D3.

Not sure why you think I'm scummy though. Because I thought your case on Jamie was bad? You should take into account that I did not have your privileged information, you shouldn't be holding that against me. Your case was bad. You were saying he was a floater and a coaster, but he was one of the most active players. And you were ignoring the real floaters. How could that give me confidence that you were being sincere? It didn't even cross my mind you were the watcher until you basically told me, because my best guesses for watcher were bozo or damo.
That is a big change from N2 when you called my reads list "horrible".

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2748 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:27 am

My scum reads, in order, are: worcej, Foxcastle, xorxes

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2749 Post by damo666 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:31 am

I've basically got my six unknowns in 2 groups:

The 'can't bes' and the others.

"Can't be": brain, Fox Sarah

Sarah due to her naivety

Fox due to the confession

Brain due to the fakery madness

Others: xorxes, Bozo, worcej

There may well be none in the first group but there's a very good chance one is being sneaky but I very much doubt 2 unless Sarah is being coached by one of the other 2 .

Of the second group I townread Xorxes more then Bozo and worcej who i have more or less on a par with worcej perhaps a taste scummier.

I will look at possible pairings at report back later.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2750 Post by damo666 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:32 am

*tad not taste lol

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2751 Post by damo666 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:02 am

Possible scumteams

b f j
b j s
b j z
b j x
f j w
f j x
j s w
j s z
j s x
j w x
j z x

Team membership frequency:

5 x
4 b s
3 f w z

The last time I did this the leader was scum despite being a townread.

However last time I eliminated rdr as being my top townread. If I repeat omitting x we get:

3 b s
2 f z w

I'm none the wiser lol!

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2752 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:41 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:24 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:48 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:50 am


Damo exercise where he put Jamiet far ahead of the others when Jamiet wasn't under any pressure and Jamiet voting Damo D2 makes Damo my strongest townread at this point. Bozo second. And Fox is currently my top scumread with Xorxes and Worcej fighting for second spot.
Yes, those are good points for damo. Some of the interactions between bozo and Jamie also are good points for bozo. The post where Jamie lists people's opinions on Sarah (mostly negative) are good points for Sarah. The fights with brainbomb don't really look like theatrics to me despite what I told Jamie, so points for brainbomb. That basically leaves Fox and worcej, who as I said had a really poor showing D3.

Not sure why you think I'm scummy though. Because I thought your case on Jamie was bad? You should take into account that I did not have your privileged information, you shouldn't be holding that against me. Your case was bad. You were saying he was a floater and a coaster, but he was one of the most active players. And you were ignoring the real floaters. How could that give me confidence that you were being sincere? It didn't even cross my mind you were the watcher until you basically told me, because my best guesses for watcher were bozo or damo.
That is a big change from N2 when you called my reads list "horrible".
A lot has happened since then. The remarkable thing would have been if my reads had not changed.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2753 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:50 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:08 am

xorxes: I do not agree with his characterization of D1 EOD, I would not expect him to want BunnyGo to risk a shot

rdrivera: looks OK, but could be lurking as scum
@bozo, why was it a problem for you that I was willing for Bunny to risk a shot, but you had no problem with rivera (and others, but especially him) having the same position?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2754 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:02 pm

I think the remaining two scum are in Brainbomb, Worcej, and SarahK.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2755 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:08 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:50 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:08 am

xorxes: I do not agree with his characterization of D1 EOD, I would not expect him to want BunnyGo to risk a shot

rdrivera: looks OK, but could be lurking as scum
@bozo, why was it a problem for you that I was willing for Bunny to risk a shot, but you had no problem with rivera (and others, but especially him) having the same position?
Just to be clear, after Bozo showed the math about the shooting I didn't want Bunny to shoot anymore.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2756 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:15 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:48 am
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:50 am
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:25 am


I want her to talk more tomorrow, but I agree. And brainbomb may be town as well.

I need to look at damo again, and probably you bozo as well, but I thought Fox's and worcej's D3 was pretty horrible.
Damo exercise where he put Jamiet far ahead of the others when Jamiet wasn't under any pressure and Jamiet voting Damo D2 makes Damo my strongest townread at this point. Bozo second. And Fox is currently my top scumread with Xorxes and Worcej fighting for second spot.
Yes, those are good points for damo. Some of the interactions between bozo and Jamie also are good points for bozo. The post where Jamie lists people's opinions on Sarah (mostly negative) are good points for Sarah. The fights with brainbomb don't really look like theatrics to me despite what I told Jamie, so points for brainbomb. That basically leaves Fox and worcej, who as I said had a really poor showing D3.

Not sure why you think I'm scummy though. Because I thought your case on Jamie was bad? You should take into account that I did not have your privileged information, you shouldn't be holding that against me. Your case was bad. You were saying he was a floater and a coaster, but he was one of the most active players. And you were ignoring the real floaters. How could that give me confidence that you were being sincere? It didn't even cross my mind you were the watcher until you basically told me, because my best guesses for watcher were bozo or damo.
I think you are scum because of your behaviour on D1 and D2 and D3. I think you with Jamiet decided the lynch on Bunny. I think you just let Bo lynch happen, you didn't even consider my opinion to lynch Sarah first that will give more info on Bunny and eliminate a scum or a liability. You avoided discussing this.
On D3 you were comfortable with a Brain lynch that look really bad and you justify with really weak arguments.
To make it simple, you were playing a really poor game as town and when you play badly as town you are scum.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2757 Post by xorxes » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:17 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:08 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:50 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:08 am

xorxes: I do not agree with his characterization of D1 EOD, I would not expect him to want BunnyGo to risk a shot

rdrivera: looks OK, but could be lurking as scum
@bozo, why was it a problem for you that I was willing for Bunny to risk a shot, but you had no problem with rivera (and others, but especially him) having the same position?
Just to be clear, after Bozo showed the math about the shooting I didn't want Bunny to shoot anymore.
But how did bozo know that?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2758 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 pm

My two top scumreads are Xorxes and Fox.

I think town need to lynch Xorxes tomorrow. He won't be lynched later, you saw last game.
If he flip scum as I think he will, then lynch Sarah and Fox and win the game. If he flips town then lynch Fox and pray for a miracle on lylo.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2759 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:18 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:17 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:08 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:50 am


@bozo, why was it a problem for you that I was willing for Bunny to risk a shot, but you had no problem with rivera (and others, but especially him) having the same position?
Just to be clear, after Bozo showed the math about the shooting I didn't want Bunny to shoot anymore.
But how did bozo know that?
Know what? That if Bunny shoot a town we lose a myslynch? It's math.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2760 Post by worcej » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:23 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:04 am
worcej wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:01 am

Do you think scum intentionally stopped posting near EOD or was it just weekend normal attendance issues?
worcej, you're being weird. What was there to post about after the claim?
I am wondering why rdr was apologizing for his claim in relation to a quiet eod. Why be sorry about that - you had a scum dead to rights so that is a great thing!

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