M1010 Mini-Mafia

[xorxes]

Only Xorxes and Jamiet seems to be around and I think both are scum, town is probably losing anyway.
I will spent most of the day with family and try to check when possible.

You seem sincere, but if you are town you are being very close minded at the moment.

If brain is scum, I have a hard time seeing you as his teammate defending him this hard unless you really want to change your meta around.

I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum), but my feeling is you have all figured out and this look so scummy to me. Your defense of Jamiet is the only thing that makes me question it, but I guess you don't have other option.

You do realize that "I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum)" is as unconvincing as it gets, right?

I don't have all figured out, I wish I had. If I am wrong about brain, what do you think of the possibility that it is Sarah-Fox-worcej and Sarah just gave out her team because she thought bussing would be a good idea?

And if I'm right about brain, I don't have a clear idea who the rest of the team might be.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Rdrivera: I sat still on Damo because I think he's town. What should I have done? Jump onto Bo? Why would that have helped town?

Why do you so strongly townread Damo?

You think he is town?

Way to quote one typo which I immediately corrected, and at the same avoid my question. Tunnel me harder, it's invigorating.

I think he is scum and have repeatedly said so.

Why do you think he is town?

[Jamiet99uk]

Rdrivera looks really gross today. He constantly avoids giving me proper responses.

[xorxes]

@rivera, what was brain's town motivation for the misquotes?

He was no longer in meltdown tone when he made those posts, so they were either serious (mistake or reaction test) or trolling.

If trolling, it's because he is scum and wanted some more wifom for after the flip.

If you think it was town motivated, what's your explanation?

[xorxes]

Jamie and I seem to be the only ones voting for brain with some conviction.

worcej voted him because brain's claim clearly forced him to, but after that he mostly seemed to think it was brain just being brain, but there was no interest in looking at anything else.

Fox voted for him because of my argument that we are either right, or we're doing brain a favor if he is town. Again no conviction or interest in looking at other options.

Sarah is Sarah.

The people not voting for him are pretty adamant that he is town (at least rivera and damo, not too sure what bozo's position is), but other than rivera fixating on Jamie I don't see much push for other options. Maybe it's just the unfortunate timing.

[bozotheclown]

I can't see brain deliberately attributing quotes to the wrong person so assume this was a result of a tunneling angry mindset. @brain I hope you had a restful sleep and apologise to your fellow players for what was quite frankly unacceptable.

Despite all the fakery and fabrication I suspect we are in fact dealing with a frustrated town Brain.

So, who to lynch?

I'm not massively scumreading anyone and those with higher frequency counts in my poss scumteams are my most townread.

So, going out on a limb I am going to ##vote Sarah. Maybe her nooby, fluffy confusion is a masquerade.

If a Fox wagon develops I could jump there.

Of the other current wagons I was voting Jamie based on my frequency count thing but he has been pretty towny to be fair.

Wrt worcej he has largely slipped under my radar. @bozo would you mind doing a summary of the case against him please. Being lazy!

Where do damo, bozo and rivera go?

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.

[rdrivera2005]

@rivera, what was brain's town motivation for the misquotes?

He was no longer in meltdown tone when he made those posts, so they were either serious (mistake or reaction test) or trolling.

If trolling, it's because he is scum and wanted some more wifom for after the flip.

If you think it was town motivated, what's your explanation?

@Xorxes - I have a question for you. Have you ever saw me being so sure about someone being scum as I am about Jamiet? And what possible explanation for this you have?

[bozotheclown]

You seem sincere, but if you are town you are being very close minded at the moment.

If brain is scum, I have a hard time seeing you as his teammate defending him this hard unless you really want to change your meta around.

I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum), but my feeling is you have all figured out and this look so scummy to me. Your defense of Jamiet is the only thing that makes me question it, but I guess you don't have other option.

You do realize that "I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum)" is as unconvincing as it gets, right?

I don't have all figured out, I wish I had. If I am wrong about brain, what do you think of the possibility that it is Sarah-Fox-worcej and Sarah just gave out her team because she thought bussing would be a good idea?

And if I'm right about brain, I don't have a clear idea who the rest of the team might be.

Do you think she was coached to say she did not know how many town or mafia were left?

[rdrivera2005]

I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum), but my feeling is you have all figured out and this look so scummy to me. Your defense of Jamiet is the only thing that makes me question it, but I guess you don't have other option.

You do realize that "I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum)" is as unconvincing as it gets, right?

I don't have all figured out, I wish I had. If I am wrong about brain, what do you think of the possibility that it is Sarah-Fox-worcej and Sarah just gave out her team because she thought bussing would be a good idea?

And if I'm right about brain, I don't have a clear idea who the rest of the team might be.

Do you think she was coached to say she did not know how many town or mafia were left?

I think no one possibly know about Sarah and this will probably cost us the game. The right play was lynching her yesterday but people can't see this is a team game and a team is as strong as his weakest player....

[xorxes]

@rivera, what was brain's town motivation for the misquotes?

He was no longer in meltdown tone when he made those posts, so they were either serious (mistake or reaction test) or trolling.

If trolling, it's because he is scum and wanted some more wifom for after the flip.

If you think it was town motivated, what's your explanation?

@Xorxes - I have a question for you. Have you ever saw me being so sure about someone being scum as I am about Jamiet? And what possible explanation for this you have?

To the first question: I don't know, maybe. I have seen you be sure about reads before. It's not something I particularly associate with you one way or the other.

To the second question: if you're implying what I think you're implying I guess I will have to do a complete reread of everything.

[bozotheclown]

Jamie and I seem to be the only ones voting for brain with some conviction.

worcej voted him because brain's claim clearly forced him to, but after that he mostly seemed to think it was brain just being brain, but there was no interest in looking at anything else.

Fox voted for him because of my argument that we are either right, or we're doing brain a favor if he is town. Again no conviction or interest in looking at other options.

Sarah is Sarah.

The people not voting for him are pretty adamant that he is town (at least rivera and damo, not too sure what bozo's position is), but other than rivera fixating on Jamie I don't see much push for other options. Maybe it's just the unfortunate timing.

I have been trying to figure out the voting today. I am going to assume SK24 is town. If brainbomb is scum, he is probably getting bussed, maybe by worcej and Foxcastle. However, that does not feel right.

Here are some things I do not understand:
xorxes strong scum reading brainbomb
xorxes strong town reading Jamie
rdrivera strong town reading brainbomb
rdrivera strong scum reading Jamie
xorxes town reading worcej

One simple explanation for these things is that the scum team is xorxes, rdrivera, and worcej. Before someone points it out, yes, there are other reads I do not understand, but these 5 stand out to me.

[xorxes]

I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum), but my feeling is you have all figured out and this look so scummy to me. Your defense of Jamiet is the only thing that makes me question it, but I guess you don't have other option.

You do realize that "I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum)" is as unconvincing as it gets, right?

I don't have all figured out, I wish I had. If I am wrong about brain, what do you think of the possibility that it is Sarah-Fox-worcej and Sarah just gave out her team because she thought bussing would be a good idea?

And if I'm right about brain, I don't have a clear idea who the rest of the team might be.

Do you think she was coached to say she did not know how many town or mafia were left?

Or came up with it herself. I thought that was pretty NAI actually. I didn't give it weight as a townslip.

[bozotheclown]

You do realize that "I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum)" is as unconvincing as it gets, right?

I don't have all figured out, I wish I had. If I am wrong about brain, what do you think of the possibility that it is Sarah-Fox-worcej and Sarah just gave out her team because she thought bussing would be a good idea?

And if I'm right about brain, I don't have a clear idea who the rest of the team might be.

Do you think she was coached to say she did not know how many town or mafia were left?

I think no one possibly know about Sarah and this will probably cost us the game. The right play was lynching her yesterday but people can't see this is a team game and a team is as strong as his weakest player....

If the right play was lynching her D2, then the correct play now is lynching her D3, but you are not arguing for that. I doubt she was coached to say she does not know the distribution of mafia and town.

[bozotheclown]

You do realize that "I could be tunneling you (not Jamiet, he is scum)" is as unconvincing as it gets, right?

I don't have all figured out, I wish I had. If I am wrong about brain, what do you think of the possibility that it is Sarah-Fox-worcej and Sarah just gave out her team because she thought bussing would be a good idea?

And if I'm right about brain, I don't have a clear idea who the rest of the team might be.

Do you think she was coached to say she did not know how many town or mafia were left?

Or came up with it herself. I thought that was pretty NAI actually. I didn't give it weight as a townslip.

Then your read of her is another thing I do not understand.

[xorxes]

Jamie and I seem to be the only ones voting for brain with some conviction.

worcej voted him because brain's claim clearly forced him to, but after that he mostly seemed to think it was brain just being brain, but there was no interest in looking at anything else.

Fox voted for him because of my argument that we are either right, or we're doing brain a favor if he is town. Again no conviction or interest in looking at other options.

Sarah is Sarah.

The people not voting for him are pretty adamant that he is town (at least rivera and damo, not too sure what bozo's position is), but other than rivera fixating on Jamie I don't see much push for other options. Maybe it's just the unfortunate timing.

I have been trying to figure out the voting today. I am going to assume SK24 is town. If brainbomb is scum, he is probably getting bussed, maybe by worcej and Foxcastle. However, that does not feel right.

Here are some things I do not understand:
xorxes strong scum reading brainbomb
xorxes strong town reading Jamie
rdrivera strong town reading brainbomb
rdrivera strong scum reading Jamie
xorxes town reading worcej

One simple explanation for these things is that the scum team is xorxes, rdrivera, and worcej. Before someone points it out, yes, there are other reads I do not understand, but these 5 stand out to me.

My read of worcej has weakened somewhat, if that helps,

My "strong" reads of brain and Jamie are probably more reactive than real. I think Jamie has been much more towny than brain, and brain has done a lot of scummy things and very little to make me think he is town. But I would not be the least bit surprized if he flips town. My scumread of bo was stronger, for example, and I was wrong.

[xorxes]

Do you think she was coached to say she did not know how many town or mafia were left?

Or came up with it herself. I thought that was pretty NAI actually. I didn't give it weight as a townslip.

Then your read of her is another thing I do not understand.

What read of her? I think she has been completely unreadable, when did I make any read of her?

[bozotheclown]

Jamie and I seem to be the only ones voting for brain with some conviction.

worcej voted him because brain's claim clearly forced him to, but after that he mostly seemed to think it was brain just being brain, but there was no interest in looking at anything else.

Fox voted for him because of my argument that we are either right, or we're doing brain a favor if he is town. Again no conviction or interest in looking at other options.

Sarah is Sarah.

The people not voting for him are pretty adamant that he is town (at least rivera and damo, not too sure what bozo's position is), but other than rivera fixating on Jamie I don't see much push for other options. Maybe it's just the unfortunate timing.

I have been trying to figure out the voting today. I am going to assume SK24 is town. If brainbomb is scum, he is probably getting bussed, maybe by worcej and Foxcastle. However, that does not feel right.

Here are some things I do not understand:
xorxes strong scum reading brainbomb
xorxes strong town reading Jamie
rdrivera strong town reading brainbomb
rdrivera strong scum reading Jamie
xorxes town reading worcej

One simple explanation for these things is that the scum team is xorxes, rdrivera, and worcej. Before someone points it out, yes, there are other reads I do not understand, but these 5 stand out to me.

My read of worcej has weakened somewhat, if that helps,

My "strong" reads of brain and Jamie are probably more reactive than real. I think Jamie has been much more towny than brain, and brain has done a lot of scummy things and very little to make me think he is town. But I would not be the least bit surprized if he flips town. My scumread of bo was stronger, for example, and I was wrong.

I am not sure about brainbomb or Jamie, I think Jamie is slightly more likely to be scum, but they could both be town. If you would not be surprised if brainbomb flips town, maybe you should try to get someone else lynched. How about worcej?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozotheclown:

If the scumteam is as you now predict, would you vote Rdrivera?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Rdrivera why exactly are you so convinced Damo is town?

[Jamiet99uk]

Sorry for the bright colours but I have discovered that if I just make normal posts asking questions politely, Rdrivera deliberately ignores them.