M1010 Mini-Mafia

[xorxes]

If brainbomb is scum, I think it's unlikely he is being bussed yet, but I suppose not impossible.

At the time you posted this, the only way this is possible is if rdrivera and I were scum.

It was a crosspost with Fox's and damo's votes. I was responding to your comment that both teammates could be bussing, which seemed unlikely.

[xorxes]

Why are you blatantly lying? I was scumreading brain from his 'survey' and never moved my vote from him. In ONE post I expressed some doubt over my read. His subsequent posts have reinforced my scumread of him.

I did not spend a significant time trying to justify a null read. I never even used the word 'null'.

I am tired of your badgering me with falsehoods. I gave you the benefit of the doubt regarding your alignment. I am now doubting my judgement in this respect and suspect you are scum trying to set me up for a lynch.

If Bunny doesn't kill brain I hope he kills you.

If we both survive the night I will be voting for you.

this was damo talking to bo. I dont see anything towny or typical from damo here. its overly verbose, and threatening. it tries to pair me with bo and puts that as his poe which youll see tomorrow was town->town and id wager he goes for a towny in lylo also

Pairing two townies is something I avoid doing as scum because since each one knows they are town, doing that will make them townread one another. It's better to set up an "either one or the other must be scum but probably not both", so that each will suspect the other and when one flips you can say "oh no we picked the wrong one let's lynch the other". I don't know if damo would do that as scum, but I think it's something pretty instinctive to do.

That post from damo made me think "is damo preparing his bus for tomorrow?" because I was thinking bo was scum at the time.

I don't want to defend damo too much, because he may still be scum, but I can see how as town he would be exasperated with bo the way he was interpreting damo's comment about you.

[xorxes]

You didn't learnt anything from last game about scum vote distribution?

interesting damo cared about scum voting habits, but hasnt done a single vca to study any scum voting patterns

I thnk that comment was from rivera to Fox, if I'm not mistaken. No damo involved?

[xorxes]

I think Jamiet might be scum. I still think Bo could be scum. Xorxes is null as he was really scumreading Bunny before and avoided a tie as Bo could vote Bunny.
I still suspect Brain a bit and also Fox.

The most weird thing this game is that I don't have any solid townread.

again, this is SO not damo as town. this is very heavy on being stingy with townreads and once im dead youll see damo has lynched only town

Why are you taking rivera quotes and attributing them to damo? Not sure if honest mistake or up to something.

[xorxes]

I think Jamiet might be scum. I still think Bo could be scum. Xorxes is null as he was really scumreading Bunny before and avoided a tie as Bo could vote Bunny.
I still suspect Brain a bit and also Fox.

The most weird thing this game is that I don't have any solid townread.

again, this is SO not damo as town. this is very heavy on being stingy with townreads and once im dead youll see damo has lynched only town

This is trolling at this point.

[xorxes]

probably wasnt much need for 2 scum on bungo. unless bozo is scum. which is unlikely. scums playing way better than that. so its damo, sarah, worcej/rivera

and thats it.

they arent killing xorxes because xorxes isnt catching them. plus damo made it ckear early he wants to ooze pocketing and buddying on xorx

If you are town, they may not kill me. If you are scum, I don't see how they don't kill me, but one can hope.

[xorxes]

riveras insistence we lynch sarah to get it out of the way was odd for him. he usually doesnt say things like that

Doesn't he?

I thought it was a bad plan, and possibly scum motivated, but I don't see how it is uncharacteristic for him.

[xorxes]

Thx

I guess I needed to have better explanations... working on it lol

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I appreciate shes having fun. I cant say ive had fun. but at least someone did. I couldnt explain to you what has been fun for her. not getting lynched is fun in and of itself. being loved, and talked to like a human being is nice too. I remember when it used to be like that

You are talked to like a human being when you let people do it.

She does look like she's having fun. If she is scum, she is doing an excellent job. If she is town, she still needs to learn that playing well as town involves being transparent, not making yourself hard to read.

[xorxes]

all you need in mafia to push is an excuse
excuses can be given and created
but the givens are traps, and pitfalls on most sites
fancy play and reaction stuff is meaningless over there because its pretty common for town to be successful without pr

here we just handed off dead pr so fast and gave bo no time. I guess we shouldve just let him live. I cant explain why I fell so into the bo lynch willingly. the stuff about his sermonly posts. it felt like I was being trapped that if I didnt agree with my own read from past I was gonna be viewed as his scum buddy

Peer pressure. Hard to believe you'd be a victim of that, but not impossible.

[xorxes]

i cant say anyone intentionally msnipulated me on bo because I cant recall who said it. just recall bozo rehashing a case from an old game where I caught bo. and suddenly im like. uhhh, shit ok. maybe thats legit here

emc said something very similar to what you had said in that game.
I pointed that out but didn't recall what game it was.
bozo found what it was.

I would feel hurt by "I cant recall who said it", but I can see through your intentions here, so it's fine.

[xorxes]

this effort likely did not redeem my rage filled rants. but once again, trying is all we can do. After im dead lynch damo and rivera both.

Can you explain what you were going for with your damo misattributions? Reaction test? Noise? Honest mistake?

[xorxes]

At this moment all scum are voting Brain.

I'm not convinced that brain is town like you seem to be.

If you are town and convinced that I am scum, and brain is town, we are probably mislynching him, because you will not make any effort to convince me that I'm wrong.

I don't see anything that brain has done as incompatible with him being scum.

You may be right that all scum are voting for brain. I am not one of them. Maybe talk to me with that assumption instead of being antagonistic and see if we can sort something out?

[damo666]

Calling brainbomb voters

Are you convinced bb is scum? We cannot afford a mislynch.

I don't like the fakery, lying and chaos and if this were D1 I would vote him just to be rid but we cannot afford that on D3 @ 6-3.

Please consider carefully.

[rdrivera2005]

At this moment all scum are voting Brain.

My vote will certainly end on one of those 5.

Please join me on Jamiet.

[xorxes]

Calling brainbomb voters

Are you convinced bb is scum? We cannot afford a mislynch.

I don't like the fakery, lying and chaos and if this were D1 I would vote him just to be rid but we cannot afford that on D3 @ 6-3.

Please consider carefully.

I am not 100% sure, but I think it's more likely that he is scum than that he isn't.

If he is scum, it is more than likely that at least one teammate is bussing him. It could be Fox, it could be worcej, it could be Sarah. I have trouble seeing Jamie-brain as a scumpair, but I suppose even that is not beyond the realms of possibility.

[rdrivera2005]

At this moment all scum are voting Brain.

I'm not convinced that brain is town like you seem to be.

If you are town and convinced that I am scum, and brain is town, we are probably mislynching him, because you will not make any effort to convince me that I'm wrong.

I don't see anything that brain has done as incompatible with him being scum.

You may be right that all scum are voting for brain. I am not one of them. Maybe talk to me with that assumption instead of being antagonistic and see if we can sort something out?

There is a small chance Brain could be scum, but I think it's really really unlikely.

Try a little exercise. Consider Jamiet is scum, who could be his partners?

[xorxes]

At this moment all scum are voting Brain.

I'm not convinced that brain is town like you seem to be.

If you are town and convinced that I am scum, and brain is town, we are probably mislynching him, because you will not make any effort to convince me that I'm wrong.

I don't see anything that brain has done as incompatible with him being scum.

You may be right that all scum are voting for brain. I am not one of them. Maybe talk to me with that assumption instead of being antagonistic and see if we can sort something out?

There is a small chance Brain could be scum, but I think it's really really unlikely.

Try a little exercise. Consider Jamiet is scum, who could be his partners?

Why is it really really unlikely? What towny thing has he done? What has made you say, yes this is town brainbomb.

If Jamie is scum, I can't think of any reason why Fox, worcej or Sarah could not be his partners, but I have not done a full reread to look for connections. Have you found something that connects Jamie to someone else? Have you found some reaction from Jamie that looks forced? Nothing he has done has pinged me wrong, so I need some place to start if you want me to go down that road.

[Jamiet99uk]

So I'm awake and bathed and refreshed and I've spent 10 minutes catching up on the 2.5 pages of action that occurred since I was last here.

I am genuinely pleased to see that Brainbomb has calmed down.

Brainbomb has decided that the scumteam is Damo, Rdrivera, and Sarah.

Brainbomb has created a case on Damo which is partly based on quoting Rdrivera and claiming those were Damo's words. Very weird. I scumread Damo myself but that's just..... weird.

Brainbomb I'm curious about your read on Rdrivera, could you explain it? I scumlean him right now but I'm worried it's OMGUS because of his terrible attempt to lynch me. Is he buddying you? He was your #1 defender during your angry outburst earlier in this day.

And Rdrivera is trolling me at this point. I have now asked him a clear and specific question, on three separate occasions during this day (and at least once last night too) and on each occasion he ignores my query and doesn't even acknowledge it. It's like Rdrivera has me on mute while still pushing me as a lynch choice.

@RDRIVERA PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU WILL NOT ANSWER ME

My vote preferences are now Brainbomb > Rdrivera > Damo

[xorxes]

Thought experiment: let's say rivera is right and the whole scumteam is currently voting for town brainbomb. I know I'm town. Lets's say Jamie is town and Jamie-bb was TvT horrible distraction as has so often happened in the past. That would mean the scumteam is: worcej-Sarah-Fox. That would be kind of hilarious given Sarah's insistence from the start that Fox and worcej are up to something together. Could it be as simple as that?

[rdrivera2005]

I'm not convinced that brain is town like you seem to be.

If you are town and convinced that I am scum, and brain is town, we are probably mislynching him, because you will not make any effort to convince me that I'm wrong.

I don't see anything that brain has done as incompatible with him being scum.

You may be right that all scum are voting for brain. I am not one of them. Maybe talk to me with that assumption instead of being antagonistic and see if we can sort something out?

There is a small chance Brain could be scum, but I think it's really really unlikely.

Try a little exercise. Consider Jamiet is scum, who could be his partners?

Why is it really really unlikely? What towny thing has he done? What has made you say, yes this is town brainbomb.

If Jamie is scum, I can't think of any reason why Fox, worcej or Sarah could not be his partners, but I have not done a full reread to look for connections. Have you found something that connects Jamie to someone else? Have you found some reaction from Jamie that looks forced? Nothing he has done has pinged me wrong, so I need some place to start if you want me to go down that road.

What makes me think Brain is town is his meltdown. How many times have you seen Brain go berserk as town? I don't think he is faking it and I don't remember him being angry this way as scum. As scum he is usually noise but not with this anger.