M1010 Mini-Mafia

[worcej]

Only in the extremely unlikely scenario that brain guessed correctly that worcej was scum and he was the one doing the kill. Nobody in their right mind would gamble like this, but it's brainbomb, so we can't completely discount that possibility.

This statement is what makes this day annoying. There are decent odds Brain is just F'ing off and giving up, thus costing us our last mislynch in a foolish fashion by being scummy as shit.

[worcej]

##VOTE worcej

[worcej]

A good town player (Xorxes) once said we should look for people's motivations not only the actions.
What is a scum motivation for Brain to act this way? Even if he was being pressured (and he wasn't) this kind of claim as scum is better done close to EOD so you either force a CC or escape the lynch.

I would agree with this more if it was anyone else than BB. His style of play (chaotic and unfocused - my words personally) make him need to be read without assuming normal decision making.

My thought: A motivation would be to get support from the town players in order to blow our last mislynch and get to lylo after he is exposed.

[worcej]

I don't think Worcej scum, his reaction to Brain claim looks townie to me. Lynch Jamiet with me today.

I disagree, I think worcej would react the same way as scum, so that is NAI.

I agree with that. I didn't see anything particularly convincing there from worcej. Even the Flavius catching-up he was doing at the time could be sees as sus. Or it could mean nothing.

TBF, I think I've done this style of catching up before Flavius played here...

[worcej]

@Fox - Where are you? You vanished, I want to hear what you think of this? What are your reads on Brain, Jamiet and Xorxes?

Weekend most likely...

[worcej]

What a shock.
I fight to survive im scum or town.
if you give up youre scum or town.
if you try youre scum or town.
if you get angry youre scum or town.
if you seem disinterested youre scum or town.

FTFY.

But the number one issue I have with you is you fake claim all the time. I never know when you're being serious because of all the ridiculous shit you do on the side. If you were more consistent and not lying through your teeth, which I have seen you do as both town and scum, then I'd be able to actually trust you.

How can I trust someone who made a bullshit claim about me?

[worcej]

wxcept im bored vt who never gave a shit about this game

If true, whose fault is that?

[worcej]

this is why you guys lose members. this type of crap. youve ignored my every read and every push all game because you just think youre superior to me in every way

Again, no we don't. You discredit yourself almost religiously in most games.

[rdrivera2005]

A good town player (Xorxes) once said we should look for people's motivations not only the actions.
What is a scum motivation for Brain to act this way? Even if he was being pressured (and he wasn't) this kind of claim as scum is better done close to EOD so you either force a CC or escape the lynch.

I would agree with this more if it was anyone else than BB. His style of play (chaotic and unfocused - my words personally) make him need to be read without assuming normal decision making.

My thought: A motivation would be to get support from the town players in order to blow our last mislynch and get to lylo after he is exposed.

Do you still scumread me? Because we need to vote together and it's not on Brainbomb.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Rdrivera: Repeatedly I have asked you to clarify exactly what your case on me is. I have asked multiple times.

Yet you refuse to respond, and just push me anyway.

How is this town behaviour?

Is your entire case based on my move off of Bo_Sox (who was TOWN, I remind you) on D1? Or is it the fact that I don't believe that Brainbomb is actually the Tracker?

WHAT. IS. YOUR. CASE?

I am posting this yet again because Rdrivera is still parked on me and won't respond to this.

I've asked him multiple times to make it clear why I'm his top scumread and he just tries to evade me.

[bozotheclown]

Now you are saying you did not read the role descriptions very carefully, which is also hard to believe.

Believe whatever you want. I obviously had read the roles but missed or did not register the "may". I went back to read it when you brought the possibility up.

I have a question for you: you analyse and question everything I say in minute detail, but you don't care about the ridiculous claims brain makes. Is that because I am me and brain is brain?

yes

What caused you to start town reading worcej since the beginning of N1?

I don't recall the exact moment I started townreading him. I wouldn't say I fully townread him now, but he is on the towniest side, especially after brain chose him as his tracker target (it could be a bluff, I know).

brain > rivera > damo/Sarah/emc/worcej > bozo/Jamie/Fox

If you are scum, your partners could be in the middle, which would mean the wagons are town vs. town.

Not really true. I often put my partners on the ends when I'm scum. I don't use a fixed rule. But yes, if I was scum I would not be pushing teammate brain like this, that's quite right.

I'm surprized you think I might be scum at this stage though. It is constitutionally impossible for me to put out this level of effort as scum. I don't enjoy my scum games, I suffer through them. I do make an effort because I always play to win, but it's exhausting and for the most part not enjoyable. This game I am enjoying. I don't know if it comes through, but at least by the sheer volume if you are tonedeaf it should be obvious.

That may be true, but you posted a fair amount in M54, and I can't be sure when you might increase your post count further as scum.

[bozotheclown]

If brainbomb is scum, I think it's unlikely he is being bussed yet, but I suppose not impossible.

At the time you posted this, the only way this is possible is if rdrivera and I were scum.

[brainbomb]

Only in the extremely unlikely scenario that brain guessed correctly that worcej was scum and he was the one doing the kill. Nobody in their right mind would gamble like this, but it's brainbomb, so we can't completely discount that possibility.

This statement is what makes this day annoying. There are decent odds Brain is just F'ing off and giving up, thus costing us our last mislynch in a foolish fashion by being scummy as shit.

this is exactly what im not doing.

[brainbomb]

Okay...
Bozo: probably town
Brain: seems alright
Damo: idk
Fox: I still think he's a scum witch worcej
Jamiet: I think he might be a scum, but idk could be town
Rdrivera:: I dont really have an impression of him... he hasn't asked me much
Xorxes: may be scum idk
Worcej: still think he's with foxcastle
I'm still working on trying to work on how to identify who's scum vs town before I really crack down on anything else

I dont think any of this is acceptable. at best were allowing this to continue because we just dont care. and thats rather pathetic.

I dont have a vendetta against sarah. but this is just random stuff that no one can relate too.

[brainbomb]

Why are you blatantly lying? I was scumreading brain from his 'survey' and never moved my vote from him. In ONE post I expressed some doubt over my read. His subsequent posts have reinforced my scumread of him.

I did not spend a significant time trying to justify a null read. I never even used the word 'null'.

I am tired of your badgering me with falsehoods. I gave you the benefit of the doubt regarding your alignment. I am now doubting my judgement in this respect and suspect you are scum trying to set me up for a lynch.

If Bunny doesn't kill brain I hope he kills you.

If we both survive the night I will be voting for you.

this was damo talking to bo. I dont see anything towny or typical from damo here. its overly verbose, and threatening. it tries to pair me with bo and puts that as his poe which youll see tomorrow was town->town and id wager he goes for a towny in lylo also

[brainbomb]

You didn't learnt anything from last game about scum vote distribution?

interesting damo cared about scum voting habits, but hasnt done a single vca to study any scum voting patterns

[brainbomb]

I think Jamiet might be scum. I still think Bo could be scum. Xorxes is null as he was really scumreading Bunny before and avoided a tie as Bo could vote Bunny.
I still suspect Brain a bit and also Fox.

The most weird thing this game is that I don't have any solid townread.

again, this is SO not damo as town. this is very heavy on being stingy with townreads and once im dead youll see damo has lynched only town

[brainbomb]

I don't like your EOD, your sudden change of mind telling Bo reaction is towny and telling a blatant lie that Bo won't act that way as scum, when you played a great amount of games with him and know he already did it. Who has motivation to lie?

This is damo pushing Jamie for 180ing on bo. and trying to trap jamie into a meta freeze. This is a form of voter intimidation tit for tat. if you 180 on my target youll look bad

[brainbomb]

It IS A LIE to say I spent a significant time trying to justify a null read on brain [paraphrasing].

You are either deliberately trying to wind me up or an arrogant fool with an over inflated opinion of yourself.

I neither want nor need any lessons from you.

damo getting assrammed by bo. damo losing his composure. scumminess oozing out his manhole

[brainbomb]

say what you will about bo. he had damo dead to rights