M1010 Mini-Mafia

[rdrivera2005]

Rdrivera, what do you think of Damo's rubric? What do you think of him excluding you from it?

I think he is right on excluding me because I am town and I think his rubric is on point.

##vote Jamiet

[rdrivera2005]

Where do damo, bozo and rivera go?

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.

I don't think Worcej scum, his reaction to Brain claim looks townie to me. Lynch Jamiet with me today.

[rdrivera2005]

##Vote damo

Brain, are you keeping your claim?
Also, Damo isn't a good lynch today.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote damo

A powerful argument to which Damo responds with an equally persuasive rebuttal.

[Jamiet99uk]

Rdrivera, what do you think of Damo's rubric? What do you think of him excluding you from it?

I think he is right on excluding me because I am town and I think his rubric is on point.

##vote Jamiet

Remind me what your case on me is?

Do you have any questions for me?

[damo666]

##Vote damo

A powerful argument to which Damo responds with an equally persuasive rebuttal.

Jamie you know there's no point. He'll move it another 5 times at least before EOD.

[Jamiet99uk]

A powerful argument to which Damo responds with an equally persuasive rebuttal.

Jamie you know there's no point. He'll move it another 5 times at least before EOD.

He's voted for four people so far. That means he's halfway to completing the set and earning a free Happy Meal.

[SarahK24]

A powerful argument to which Damo responds with an equally persuasive rebuttal.

Jamie you know there's no point. He'll move it another 5 times at least before EOD.

He's voted for four people so far. That means he's halfway to completing the set and earning a free Happy Meal.

Haha

[rdrivera2005]

Rdrivera, what do you think of Damo's rubric? What do you think of him excluding you from it?

I think he is right on excluding me because I am town and I think his rubric is on point.

##vote Jamiet

Remind me what your case on me is?

Do you have any questions for me?

Why are you voting an un-cced PR clarim? Why you are so sure Brain was lying since the claim?

[damo666]

A powerful argument to which Damo responds with an equally persuasive rebuttal.

Jamie you know there's no point. He'll move it another 5 times at least before EOD.

He's voted for four people so far. That means he's halfway to completing the set and earning a free Happy Meal.

He's only got fox rdr Sarah and bozo to go

[xorxes]

Where do damo, bozo and rivera go?

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.

Your not doing a poll was as weak a reason as it gets, especially considering you did a poll last game as scum.

The rivera read I actually agreed with. I thought rivera's first reaction to brain's question was a bit strange, not calling it out as scummy immediately coupled with the bingo post when damo did call it scummy.

But yes, voting for you because you did not do a poll is not good at all.

Having said that, I did a rearead of worcej during the night, and I found him generally towny, but not conclusive. I don't know if scum would be so blatant in saying that bo was town, and also his defense of Sarah I have a hard time as seeing coming from scum.

[SarahK24]

@rdrivera what are your reads?

[SarahK24]

@rdrivera what are your reads?

Or just name 3 people u think are scum and 3 u think are town

[xorxes]

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.

I don't think Worcej scum, his reaction to Brain claim looks townie to me. Lynch Jamiet with me today.

So you think brainbomb was just doing towny brainbombosities?

[bozotheclown]

Probably not. He has been the lurkiest by far out of everyone, and I have seen more towny moments from everyone else (except Sarah). But I'm not at all sure about him. How do you read him?

I have not seen any reason to suspect rdrivera is scum, so I think he is probably town. I thought he could be right about Jamie and I understand his argument for lynching SK24.

Can you walk me through the case on Jamie?

If I unserstand correctly it is this: Jamie knew that bo was town, so he saw an opportunity to save him as a lynch for D2 and switched to Bunny. (But if he had stayed on bo, would that mean that he knew Bunny was town, and saved him for D2?)

Now rivera offered this case against Jamie on N1, before we knew that bo was town.

Can we not make the same argument against rivera, that he started suspecting Jamie so that when bo flipped town he could build a case against Jamie?

To me the whole thing seems extremely weak. Has Jamie been scummy in any way other than in moving his vote from one townie to another? Is that really a scummy move? It's just as likely to be a town motivated move, is it not? It is usually town, not scum, that hesitate on who is a better lynch.

Jamie was voting for bo_sox for 7 hours before deciding against lynching him 10 minutes before EOD for what I consider a questionable reason:

Ok listen. Reading Bo_Sox's iso from the second half of the day, his defences of himself strike me as very earnest and I'm not sure scum Bo would defend himself in this way.

I still think his tempter tantrum earlier was distasteful as was bringing the GM into it but I often get caught into thinking shitty play = scum play, and that's gotten me involved in too many mislynches over time.

##UNVOTE

This is how rdrivera put it:

I think Jamiet might be scum. I still think Bo could be scum. Xorxes is null as he was really scumreading Bunny before and avoided a tie as Bo could vote Bunny.
I still suspect Brain a bit and also Fox.

The most weird thing this game is that I don't have any solid townread.

Why do you think I might be scum, based on EoD?

Do you think I saved my scumbuddy Bo?

Anything else?

I don't like your EOD, your sudden change of mind telling Bo reaction is towny and telling a blatant lie that Bo won't act that way as scum, when you played a great amount of games with him and know he already did it. Who has motivation to lie?

I also think there is a chance Jamie was bussing Foxcastle when Foxcastle became a wagon D1.

[bozotheclown]

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.

Your not doing a poll was as weak a reason as it gets, especially considering you did a poll last game as scum.

The rivera read I actually agreed with. I thought rivera's first reaction to brain's question was a bit strange, not calling it out as scummy immediately coupled with the bingo post when damo did call it scummy.

But yes, voting for you because you did not do a poll is not good at all.

Having said that, I did a rearead of worcej during the night, and I found him generally towny, but not conclusive. I don't know if scum would be so blatant in saying that bo was town, and also his defense of Sarah I have a hard time as seeing coming from scum.

IN THE EVENT THE VENGEFUL DIES

Are you willing to be his kill today
My answer is yes

please answer this question all

I don't understand this question Brain and neither your answer? Why a town would want to be Vengeful target? Why a scum would want to be the target?

rdrivera was just saying the question was meaningless, because no one should want to get killed N1, which is exactly what I thought.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think he is right on excluding me because I am town and I think his rubric is on point.

##vote Jamiet

Remind me what your case on me is?

Do you have any questions for me?

Why are you voting an un-cced PR clarim? Why you are so sure Brain was lying since the claim?

1. He has already also falsely claimed Vengeful Townie and Role Cop during this game. I'm sure he wishes he had also claimed Doctor before the Doctor died as well.

2. He claimed he tracked Worcej and caught him performing the NightKill, but he is not voting for Worcej.

Why do you think anyone should believe him?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie you know there's no point. He'll move it another 5 times at least before EOD.

He's voted for four people so far. That means he's halfway to completing the set and earning a free Happy Meal.

He's only got fox rdr Sarah and bozo to go

Yes, that's four, you can count to four, well done.

[bozotheclown]

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.

I don't think Worcej scum, his reaction to Brain claim looks townie to me. Lynch Jamiet with me today.

I disagree, I think worcej would react the same way as scum, so that is NAI.

[SarahK24]

Remind me what your case on me is?

Do you have any questions for me?

Why are you voting an un-cced PR clarim? Why you are so sure Brain was lying since the claim?

1. He has already also falsely claimed Vengeful Townie and Role Cop during this game. I'm sure he wishes he had also claimed Doctor before the Doctor died as well.

2. He claimed he tracked Worcej and caught him performing the NightKill, but he is not voting for Worcej.

Why do you think anyone should believe him?

Hmm that's a good point.