M1010 Mini-Mafia

[bozotheclown]

Why aren't you concerned with the underlining assumption that damo is town?

In what sense am I not concerned?

You seem to be acknowledging validity in his list except for 2 unwarranted assumptions.

Never mind, it looks like I did not read that closely.

[bozotheclown]

I have a question...
So 2 town have already been killed, and there are 3 or 4 right?

There are 10 town and 3 mafia, and 4 town have been killed.

[xorxes]

Okay...
Bozo: probably town
Brain: seems alright
Damo: idk
Fox: I still think he's a scum witch worcej
Jamiet: I think he might be a scum, but idk could be town
Rdrivera:: I dont really have an impression of him... he hasn't asked me much
Xorxes: may be scum idk
Worcej: still think he's with foxcastle
I'm still working on trying to work on how to identify who's scum vs town before I really crack down on anything else

Thank you!

You certainly are steadfast with that Fox-worcej connection. Maybe a good way to start is trying to convince others of what you see in them that makes them a team.

You say rivera has not asked you much, but he was the one who asked you to list three scum and three town and you complied. Did you forget that?

I guess I didn't go through everything right
I do remember it... but I still dont have much insight...but I'm beginning to think he may be town....

I think that's great. You are starting to have reads.

The next step is communicating to others what you based your reads on. For example: "I'm beginning to think rivera may be town because he ..." So not only tell us whether you think someone is town or scum, but what made you think that, even if it is something little that seems unimportant.

[bozotheclown]

I was unnerved by his desire to lynch Sarah before bo, plus the fact that brainbomb has never scumread him (this latter could be some kind of buddying though).

Would brainbomb flipping town reduce your scum read of him then?

Probably not. He has been the lurkiest by far out of everyone, and I have seen more towny moments from everyone else (except Sarah). But I'm not at all sure about him. How do you read him?

I have not seen any reason to suspect rdrivera is scum, so I think he is probably town. I thought he could be right about Jamie and I understand his argument for lynching SK24.

[damo666]

@Sarah why do you think brain is 'alright'?

Most of us think he's barking mad.

[SarahK24]

I have a question...
So 2 town have already been killed, and there are 3 or 4 right?

There are 10 town and 3 mafia, and 4 town have been killed.

That makes so much more sense

[SarahK24]

I have a question...
So 2 town have already been killed, and there are 3 or 4 right?

There are 10 town and 3 mafia, and 4 town have been killed.

That makes so much more sense

Thx

[bozotheclown]

I have a question...
So 2 town have already been killed, and there are 3 or 4 right?

There are 10 town and 3 mafia, and 4 town have been killed.

Are you getting town and mafia mixed up?

[bozotheclown]

I have a question...
So 2 town have already been killed, and there are 3 or 4 right?

There are 10 town and 3 mafia, and 4 town have been killed.

That makes so much more sense

Can you tell me what you were assuming was the distribution?

[SarahK24]

There are 10 town and 3 mafia, and 4 town have been killed.

That makes so much more sense

Can you tell me what you were assuming was the distribution?

I reversed them and realized that seemed off

[xorxes]

Why do you have rdrivera second?

I was unnerved by his desire to lynch Sarah before bo, plus the fact that brainbomb has never scumread him (this latter could be some kind of buddying though).

rdrivera had a good point though, it is hard to tell if we are looking for 2 scum or 3 scum not including SK24.

It is hard, yes. But the case on bo_sox hinged very strongly on either Sarah or Fox being his teammate. If we had lynched Sarah and she had flipped town, we would be in an even worse position than we are now. We could still be tunnelling on bo-Fox. And if she flipped scum, we would have lynched bo next anyway.

[SarahK24]

That makes so much more sense

Can you tell me what you were assuming was the distribution?

I reversed them and realized that seemed off

Yeah I knew there was 3 or 4 of something and 10 of something else... got mixed ul

[xorxes]

I have a question...
So 2 town have already been killed, and there are 3 or 4 right?

There are 3 scum and 6 town left alive.

No scum has been killed yet.

The 4 people that were killed (two lynches and two nightkills) were all town.

[xorxes]

Why aren't you concerned with the underlining assumption that damo is town?

In what sense am I not concerned?

You seem to be acknowledging validity in his list except for 2 unwarranted assumptions.

You must have not read till the end.

[bozotheclown]

Can you tell me what you were assuming was the distribution?

I reversed them and realized that seemed off

Yeah I knew there was 3 or 4 of something and 10 of something else... got mixed ul

Do you understand when the game ends?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE worcej

[xorxes]

Would brainbomb flipping town reduce your scum read of him then?

Probably not. He has been the lurkiest by far out of everyone, and I have seen more towny moments from everyone else (except Sarah). But I'm not at all sure about him. How do you read him?

I have not seen any reason to suspect rdrivera is scum, so I think he is probably town. I thought he could be right about Jamie and I understand his argument for lynching SK24.

Can you walk me through the case on Jamie?

If I unserstand correctly it is this: Jamie knew that bo was town, so he saw an opportunity to save him as a lynch for D2 and switched to Bunny. (But if he had stayed on bo, would that mean that he knew Bunny was town, and saved him for D2?)

Now rivera offered this case against Jamie on N1, before we knew that bo was town.

Can we not make the same argument against rivera, that he started suspecting Jamie so that when bo flipped town he could build a case against Jamie?

To me the whole thing seems extremely weak. Has Jamie been scummy in any way other than in moving his vote from one townie to another? Is that really a scummy move? It's just as likely to be a town motivated move, is it not? It is usually town, not scum, that hesitate on who is a better lynch.

[brainbomb]

##Vote damo

[damo666]

##Vote damo

[bozotheclown]

From my read, this is what I actively compiled:

• Joke phase participants: EMC, Fox, Bunny, Brain
• Discussions about PRs in this game: Jamie
• Strategy/Approach Mentions: Bunny, kgray
• 'Normal' behavior: Bo, brain, Bunny, xorxes, Jamie

Draw from this what you will.

Where do damo, bozo and rivera go?

bozo hasn't done a poll yet, rdr seems off with his reaction to bb's question, and damo put more effort talking about math than actual reads.

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

worcej scum read me and rdrivera for poor reasons half way through D1, and apparently everything that has happened since has just reinforced these reads. This is either a strong case of confirmation bias or worcej is scum.