M1010 Mini-Mafia

[damo666]

Town to scum

rdr
Xorxes
Bozo
emc
worcej
Sarah
Jamie
Fox
brain

no great confidence in this though

I think rivera could be town, but is there something in particular that makes him so towny?

not really, I kind of forced myself to put the list in order. I can't find anything scummy in rdr whereas for everyone else there is this:

Xorxes survival!
bozo the tunnelling
worcej his usual style is scummy by nature
Sarah the oddness of some of the posts and her introduction
Jamie voting pattern
Fox the scum confession
brain well, he's brain but mainly the PR fishing

[Jamiet99uk]

Here is my current reading of the remaining players, before doing any re-reading in light of EMC's flip:

bozotheclown - Town
brainbomb - Scum
damo666 - Scum
Foxcastle - Scumlean
Jamiet99uk - Town
rdrivera2005 - Scumlean
SarahK24 - Null
worcej - Townlean
xorxes - Town

I'd be happy with a Brain lynch, or Damo, today.

[Jamiet99uk]

Since no scum are dead yet, this is not super-informative, but...

EoD1:

BunnyGo(5) - kgray, Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk, xorxes, bo_sox48
bo_sox48(2) - rdrivera2005, bozotheclown
bozotheclown(2) - BunnyGo, worcej
worcej(2) - brainbomb, e.m.c^42
brainbomb(1) - damo666
Foxcastle(1) - SarahK24

EoD2:

bo_sox48(7) - damo666*, bozotheclown, xorxes, rdrivera2005, brainbomb*, SarahK24, e.m.c^42
damo666(4) - Jamiet99uk, Foxcastle, bo_sox48, worcej

[xorxes]

Town to scum

rdr
Xorxes
Bozo
emc
worcej
Sarah
Jamie
Fox
brain

no great confidence in this though

I think rivera could be town, but is there something in particular that makes him so towny?

not really, I kind of forced myself to put the list in order. I can't find anything scummy in rdr whereas for everyone else there is this:

Xorxes survival!
bozo the tunnelling
worcej his usual style is scummy by nature
Sarah the oddness of some of the posts and her introduction
Jamie voting pattern
Fox the scum confession
brain well, he's brain but mainly the PR fishing

What worries me is that you are only looking for scumtells, but you don't seem to care about towntells at all.

[Jamiet99uk]

Let's start things moving. For reasons already expressed, and discussed further last night if you want to look:

##VOTE BRAINBOMB

[rdrivera2005]

I think rivera could be town, but is there something in particular that makes him so towny?

not really, I kind of forced myself to put the list in order. I can't find anything scummy in rdr whereas for everyone else there is this:

Xorxes survival!
bozo the tunnelling
worcej his usual style is scummy by nature
Sarah the oddness of some of the posts and her introduction
Jamie voting pattern
Fox the scum confession
brain well, he's brain but mainly the PR fishing

What worries me is that you are only looking for scumtells, but you don't seem to care about towntells at all.

As you are talking about this, what are the towntells you have on Fox, Jamiet and Bozo?

[rdrivera2005]

Let's start things moving. For reasons already expressed, and discussed further last night if you want to look:

##VOTE BRAINBOMB

Jamiet, your votes are getting even worst.

[brainbomb]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

[damo666]

I know some of you won't like or appreciate this but it's time for one of my theory posts:

In the following I have assumed rdr is town and eliminated some scum pairings that I deem as unlikely.

b=brain z = bozo rest are obvious

Possible scumteams

b f j
b f x
b j s
b j z
b j x
b s z
b s x
b z x
f j w
f j x
f w x
j s w
j s z
j s x
j w x
j z x
s w x
s z x

If anyone can highlight a reason that any particular scumteam is highly unlikely please do so in order that it may be eliminated. Don't bother if you're a member of said team though!

Team membership frequency:

10 j
7 b s
6 z
5 f w

So ##vote Jamie

I am willing to lynch Jamie, brain, Sarah or Fox*

* despite him only appearing in 5 teams

[damo666]

I think rivera could be town, but is there something in particular that makes him so towny?

not really, I kind of forced myself to put the list in order. I can't find anything scummy in rdr whereas for everyone else there is this:

Xorxes survival!
bozo the tunnelling
worcej his usual style is scummy by nature
Sarah the oddness of some of the posts and her introduction
Jamie voting pattern
Fox the scum confession
brain well, he's brain but mainly the PR fishing

What worries me is that you are only looking for scumtells, but you don't seem to care about towntells at all.

No, I considered 'towniness' in my read order. I was simply explaining why I have rdr as most towny in response to your question.

[damo666]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

do we believe this?

if bb is not tracker should the tracker cc?

[Foxcastle]

I know some of you won't like or appreciate this but it's time for one of my theory posts:

In the following I have assumed rdr is town and eliminated some scum pairings that I deem as unlikely.

b=brain z = bozo rest are obvious

Possible scumteams

b f j
b f x
b j s
b j z
b j x
b s z
b s x
b z x
f j w
f j x
f w x
j s w
j s z
j s x
j w x
j z x
s w x
s z x

If anyone can highlight a reason that any particular scumteam is highly unlikely please do so in order that it may be eliminated. Don't bother if you're a member of said team though!

Team membership frequency:

10 j
7 b s
6 z
5 f w

So ##vote Jamie

I am willing to lynch Jamie, brain, Sarah or Fox*

* despite him only appearing in 5 teams

This is at best useless, at at worst deliberately misleading, unless you include why you think Rdr is townie enough to be excluded and specific reasons for removing individual teams.

[Foxcastle]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

do we believe this?

if bb is not tracker should the tracker cc?

I think it's reasonable to lynch Worcej and if Worcej flips town, to lynch Brainbomb. If we mislynch today, tomorrow is LyLo.

That's assuming Brainbomb doesn't change his mind.

[xorxes]

not really, I kind of forced myself to put the list in order. I can't find anything scummy in rdr whereas for everyone else there is this:

Xorxes survival!
bozo the tunnelling
worcej his usual style is scummy by nature
Sarah the oddness of some of the posts and her introduction
Jamie voting pattern
Fox the scum confession
brain well, he's brain but mainly the PR fishing

What worries me is that you are only looking for scumtells, but you don't seem to care about towntells at all.

As you are talking about this, what are the towntells you have on Fox, Jamiet and Bozo?

bozo obsessing and putting in a lot of effort on a case I think is more of a towntell than a scumtell for him. For example, last game he had a pretty solid case on Bunny, but he didn't care enough to pursue it with much zest.

Jamie oozes towniness, and I find it strange that you don't see it. I might be blind to something, but I can't see the slightest bit of imposture there. The "case" you have on him, changing his vote to Bunny in preparation for a mislynch of bo_sox, can easily be turned against you: you seemed to know bo_sox was a mislynch that Jamie would be preparing for, so you were preparing a mislynch of Jamie for after bo flipped. I'm not making that case because it is just as weak. Is there anything against Jamie besides that vote change?

Fox I'll grant you I don't have huge confidence in. He feels towny at times, but I put him there more because of POE and the fact that others were giving me more bad vibes. I hated the scum claim, it looked forced, unnecessary, out of place. But it can just as easily be town awkwardness as scum.

[xorxes]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

NO COUNTERCLAIMS PLEASE

Let's hear what worcej has to say

[xorxes]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

do we believe this?

if bb is not tracker should the tracker cc?

I don't believe it, but let's not be hasty.

No counterclaims.

[xorxes]

This is at best useless, at at worst deliberately misleading, unless you include why you think Rdr is townie enough to be excluded and specific reasons for removing individual teams.

Yes, you should at least explain which pairs you are excluding and why.

[xorxes]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

do we believe this?

if bb is not tracker should the tracker cc?

I think it's reasonable to lynch Worcej and if Worcej flips town, to lynch Brainbomb. If we mislynch today, tomorrow is LyLo.

That's assuming Brainbomb doesn't change his mind.

That would be the obvious course of action. But let's think about it, I'm very dubious that the claim is true.

[damo666]

I know some of you won't like or appreciate this but it's time for one of my theory posts:

In the following I have assumed rdr is town and eliminated some scum pairings that I deem as unlikely.

b=brain z = bozo rest are obvious

Possible scumteams

b f j
b f x
b j s
b j z
b j x
b s z
b s x
b z x
f j w
f j x
f w x
j s w
j s z
j s x
j w x
j z x
s w x
s z x

If anyone can highlight a reason that any particular scumteam is highly unlikely please do so in order that it may be eliminated. Don't bother if you're a member of said team though!

Team membership frequency:

10 j
7 b s
6 z
5 f w

So ##vote Jamie

I am willing to lynch Jamie, brain, Sarah or Fox*

* despite him only appearing in 5 teams

This is at best useless, at at worst deliberately misleading, unless you include why you think Rdr is townie enough to be excluded and specific reasons for removing individual teams.

I omitted rdr because he is my top townread. If I include him the list would be unwieldy and he would be in 17 possible scumteams. His inclusion would be more obfuscatory than helpful.

Pairs I omitted (source: VCA)

bw fs fz wz

[damo666]

##Vote worcej
##End

Im the tracker I saw worej perform the kill

do we believe this?

if bb is not tracker should the tracker cc?

I think it's reasonable to lynch Worcej and if Worcej flips town, to lynch Brainbomb. If we mislynch today, tomorrow is LyLo.

That's assuming Brainbomb doesn't change his mind.

Reasonable