M1010 Mini-Mafia

[rdrivera2005]

Well, we are screwed. We have only one myslynch left and I don't have a clue who the scumteam are.

Thoughts on brainbomb?

I answered to Damoefore Brain is hard to sort or re-read but his claims and the way he is controlling himself look town Brain. Scum Brain is usually more chaotic, more noisy.

[rdrivera2005]

my scum reads are

damo
worcej
xorxes
emc
sarah

two in those are wrong obviously ^

I would include Jamiet instead of Worcej.

[rdrivera2005]

@bozo, this case you're now mounting against Jamie is something that rivera had already come up with, as soon as N1 I think. Were you aware of that?

Yes, and Jamie's D1 EOD is the reason I had him as my third highest scum read N1.

OK, I had missed this.

So what's your rough order of scummiest to towniest now?

Mine would go something like:

brain > rivera > damo/Sarah/emc/worcej > bozo/Jamie/Fox

This reads are so shitty that I really don't believe them.

[xorxes]

Yes, and Jamie's D1 EOD is the reason I had him as my third highest scum read N1.

OK, I had missed this.

So what's your rough order of scummiest to towniest now?

Mine would go something like:

brain > rivera > damo/Sarah/emc/worcej > bozo/Jamie/Fox

brainbomb was the fifth vote for Foxcastle, do you think he was just piling on a town wagon?

Yes. I think if he was town he would have wanted to see more action. He's not the type to settle on a scumread and be satisfied with it for six hours.

[xorxes]

he doesnt fucking think anything bozo
he has the fucking answer key on who is bloody scum and who is town
he doesnt need to THINK anything
wake the fuck up

That's a very good observ... wait, let me check my answer key first... brainbomb... brainbomb... here it is, ah scum!

I'm still waiting for you to tell me why you think rivera has been so towny this game that you have never doubted him for one minute.

[xorxes]

DAY1

BunnyGo (5) kgray Foxcastle Jamiet99uk xorxes bo_sox48
bo_sox48 (2) rdrivera2005 bozotheclown
bozotheclown (2) BunnyGo worcej
worcej (2) brainbomb e.m.c^42
brainbomb (1) damo666
Foxcastle (1) SarahK24

DAY2

bo_sox48 (7) damo666* bozotheclown xorxes rdrivera2005 brainbomb* SarahK24 e.m.c^42
damo666 (4) Jamiet99uk Foxcastle bo_sox48 worcej

bozo and rivera were not there at EOD1 (they had anticipated they would not be). worcej and Sarah were not posting either. I don't think they announced they would not be there.

damo, brainbomb and emc stayed out of the main wagons.

Jamie and I were the only ones doing anything at EOD. Fox was on the lynching wagon but not so much by doing anything.

brainbomb is to me the most noticeable for being there but not really caring what happened.

I reviewed D1 EOD again and I do not agree with your characterization that you and Jamie were the only ones doing anything. I think brainbomb was trying not to get lynched, he was at just as much risk as BunnyGo of getting lynched until the very end, and bo_sox was pushing for his lynch. damo was voting for brainbomb, and had to deal with bo_sox questioning his read of brainbomb, even though bo_sox was voting for brainbomb as well. emc was engaged until EOD, and he was voting for a wagon that was viable until the last few minutes.

I do agree with you that brain was trying not to get lynched. He was not trying to find scum though.

I agree that damo was being distracted by bo_sox, which was really weird and one of the things that strengthened my scumread of bo_sox.

emc felt detached to me, but that's how he always feels.

[xorxes]

I still don’t recall an answer to my question on if you know sarah in real life or not.

Whenever bozo uses the word "college", you can assume he is making a joke. Ask Jamie about it if you weren't there. He knows because he was roommates with bozo in college, and the joke comes from those days.

That little joke actually made me townread bozo a bit more, even though tonight's blietzkrieg left me a bit shocked.

[Jamiet99uk]

Here is my list from top scum read to top town read:

worcej: too confident bo_sox was town, bad reasons for his votes on me

Foxcastle: I do not like his scum claim, refused to answer my questions D2

Jamie: read change at EOD to get BunnyGo lynched over bo_sox, could have been bussing Foxcastle

xorxes: I do not agree with his characterization of D1 EOD, I would not expect him to want BunnyGo to risk a shot

brainbomb: fake PR claim when at risk of getting lynched, could have been bussing Foxcastle

SK24: too little information to read, but being overly cautious could point to scum

rdrivera: looks OK, but could be lurking as scum

damo: reaction to bo_sox seems town

emc: his comments seem to be from a town perspective


Some scum teams that seem possible to me:

worcej/Foxcastle/Jamie
worcej/xorxes/brainbomb
worcej/xorxes/SK24
worcej/Jamie/brainbomb
xorxes/Jamie/brainbomb
Foxcastle/Jamie/brainbomb

Bozo, I'm slightly exasperated here. I answered all of your questions earlier this phase, as honestly and in as much detail as my memory of D1 would enable me to do. Which, as you must have noticed, was actually quite a lot of detail. It seemed my answers had satisfied you, just a few pages ago. Yet your read on me does not appear to have changed one bit. If you think my answers are unconvincing or inconsistent, or if there is anything I did not address, then please let me know. Otherwise I fear your continued scumread on me must contain more than a little confirmation bias, and I am beginning to understand how Bo_Sox felt while you wrongly tunnelled him to death.

[Jamiet99uk]

Going to bed, in case I don’t live - look at rdr and bozo. I have been preaching this from the moon and back, maybe someone might listen.

Damo seems off as well. I didn’t like the comment that bo was pushing for a mislynch. I feel like I am seeing more words in his posts than I am used to.

Not sure on Brain - I think he falls into frustrated town but if he is scum, we really all suck for giving him a pass this long after his weird claims.

Jamie / xorxes / Fox are my towncore atm. Emc and sarah need to do more, cannot really place them well and their contributions are lackluster.

If you are town, one of us is significantly misreading the game.

I am going comment on this because Worcej already has (I don't like answering on other people's behalf, as previously explained).

Bozo, let's just remember that you scumread BunnyGo for most of Day 1, and he flipped town. You scumread Kgray, who flipped town. You scumread Bo_Sox really, really hard, and he flipped town. You are now scumreading me and I know what my alignment is.

If you are town, so far you have been misreading the game pretty badly, wouldn't you say?

[xorxes]

Here is my list from top scum read to top town read:

worcej: too confident bo_sox was town, bad reasons for his votes on me

Foxcastle: I do not like his scum claim, refused to answer my questions D2

Jamie: read change at EOD to get BunnyGo lynched over bo_sox, could have been bussing Foxcastle

xorxes: I do not agree with his characterization of D1 EOD, I would not expect him to want BunnyGo to risk a shot

brainbomb: fake PR claim when at risk of getting lynched, could have been bussing Foxcastle

SK24: too little information to read, but being overly cautious could point to scum

rdrivera: looks OK, but could be lurking as scum

damo: reaction to bo_sox seems town

emc: his comments seem to be from a town perspective


Some scum teams that seem possible to me:

worcej/Foxcastle/Jamie
worcej/xorxes/brainbomb
worcej/xorxes/SK24
worcej/Jamie/brainbomb
xorxes/Jamie/brainbomb
Foxcastle/Jamie/brainbomb

That's a pretty horrible reads list. brain's fakeclaim is the only thing scummy you see in him? It doesn't bother you that he has no interest in the game? It doesn't bother you that I have posted more than him this game? The only way that can happen is if I am town and he is scum. Any other combination results in him posting more than me every time.

I can unsderstand if you're OMGUSsing on worcej, but it seems an odd pick for top suspect. I have to reread him.

The reasoning for Jamie is pretty bad. If he is scum, he is doing a very good job of looking towny, and I'm not saying this to buddy him.

SK is not being overly cautious at all. She is borderly trolling. I have no idea if she is scum or not, she has made herself unreadable, which is anti-town but impossible to say if scum or not.

I'm impressed by how much of a pass you give rivera.

[Jamiet99uk]

I actually townlean Bozo here, while I always find Bozo hard to read* because BozotheRelentlessInquisitor comes slightly more to the fore as town, I think. He asks a great many detailed, carefully constructed questions, sometimes catches scum and is sometimes wrong, tunnels somewhat, and is prone to confirmation bias once he's decided a target is scum, which makes it hard for him to change his mind. We're seeing all of that here.


* Yes I know that's quite hedgy. Bite me.

[xorxes]

Going to bed, in case I don’t live - look at rdr and bozo. I have been preaching this from the moon and back, maybe someone might listen.

Damo seems off as well. I didn’t like the comment that bo was pushing for a mislynch. I feel like I am seeing more words in his posts than I am used to.

Not sure on Brain - I think he falls into frustrated town but if he is scum, we really all suck for giving him a pass this long after his weird claims.

Jamie / xorxes / Fox are my towncore atm. Emc and sarah need to do more, cannot really place them well and their contributions are lackluster.

I don't see any reason you'd be killed, but you never know, we did kill you relatively early last game. I'm a bit scared by how much I agree with you here, except that you are being too soft on brainbomb. What reason does he have to feel frustrated as town? I can feel frustrated because I was wrong about bo_sox and I was pretty hopeful there, but why would brain feel frustrated? He has not been invested in anything.

[xorxes]

Well, we are screwed. We have only one myslynch left and I don't have a clue who the scumteam are.

What do you think of my brain/Fox/Jamie suggestion?

Of this three I think Jamiet is the more likely scum. After Bo flip I think Fox is less likely to be scum and Brain is hard to sort, but I don't feel scum vibes from him.

I think Xorxes might be playing us again.

Interesting. You find Jamie more scummy than brain. And I may be playing you.

You think you have been playing so towny that brain never once had anything bad to say about you? Has this ever happened to you in a game before? What makes you think I may be playing you and not that brain may be playing you?

[xorxes]

Well, we are screwed. We have only one myslynch left and I don't have a clue who the scumteam are.

Thoughts on brainbomb?

I answered to Damoefore Brain is hard to sort or re-read but his claims and the way he is controlling himself look town Brain. Scum Brain is usually more chaotic, more noisy.

In what way do you see him controlling himself? Has he had any interesting insights this game? Do you remember the game he subbed in as scum (and we lost by lynching Jamie)? Was he chaotic and noisy that game?

[xorxes]

Yes, and Jamie's D1 EOD is the reason I had him as my third highest scum read N1.

OK, I had missed this.

So what's your rough order of scummiest to towniest now?

Mine would go something like:

brain > rivera > damo/Sarah/emc/worcej > bozo/Jamie/Fox

This reads are so shitty that I really don't believe them.

You will obviously disagree about yourself. What's shitty about the rest? Can you give us your sorting?

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyone thinking that Brainbomb is not being chaotic this game is looking at a different game to the one that I'm playing in.

[xorxes]

I actually townlean Bozo here, while I always find Bozo hard to read* because BozotheRelentlessInquisitor comes slightly more to the fore as town, I think. He asks a great many detailed, carefully constructed questions, sometimes catches scum and is sometimes wrong, tunnels somewhat, and is prone to confirmation bias once he's decided a target is scum, which makes it hard for him to change his mind. We're seeing all of that here.


* Yes I know that's quite hedgy. Bite me.

I basically agree with that. Just too much effort for him to be scum, but you never know.

[xorxes]

Anyone thinking that Brainbomb is not being chaotic this game is looking at a different game to the one that I'm playing in.

He is being chaotic in a scummy way. Like when emc says he has not been shitposting enough he starts shitposting, when I say he has not had any scumteams he starts having random scumteams, and so on.

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyone thinking that Brainbomb is not being chaotic this game is looking at a different game to the one that I'm playing in.

He is being chaotic in a scummy way. Like when emc says he has not been shitposting enough he starts shitposting, when I say he has not had any scumteams he starts having random scumteams, and so on.

He is also very rude and disrespectful and will not eat his vegetables.

[xorxes]

Anyone thinking that Brainbomb is not being chaotic this game is looking at a different game to the one that I'm playing in.

He is being chaotic in a scummy way. Like when emc says he has not been shitposting enough he starts shitposting, when I say he has not had any scumteams he starts having random scumteams, and so on.

He is also very rude and disrespectful and will not eat his vegetables.

That's NAI.