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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2141 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:54 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:50 am
xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:56 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:40 pm
I think Bo is the most interesting BunnyGo target. It adds information about whether D1 was TvT or TvS and it helps shed additional light on two other players, me and SarahK. I'm not sure anyone else's flip provides that much useful intel, and I think that would be a good option weighed against the likelihood of aiming for scum and hitting town.
It also sheds quite a lot of info on me, Jamie, rivera and bozo.
Why did you endorse Foxcastle's call for BunnyGo to shoot bo_sox instead of advocating for BunnyGo to withhold his shot?
Because I wanted to see him flip so we had a more informed D2, and I was confident he was scum.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2142 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:13 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:52 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:44 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:38 am


Yes, do you disagree?
I am not sure I would call a 2 vote wagon a side wagon when the top wagons only had 3 votes.
Well, there wasn't a lot of trying to get others to join, so they had very little chance of becoming the lead wagon. Basically they were not interested in deciding between Bunny and bo_sox.
The choice between BunnyGo and bo_sox lasted approximately 2 minutes. At all other times, there were multiple wagons tied with either BunnyGo or bo_sox:

From 42 minutes to 10 minutes it was bo_sox 4, BunnyGo 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 10 minutes to 7 minutes it was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 7 minutes to 5 minutes it was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 3, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 5 minutes to 2 minutes it was BunnyGo 4, bo_sox 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 2 minutes to EOD it was BunnyGo 5, bo_sox 2, worcej 2, bozo 2, brainbomb 1, Foxcastle 1.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2143 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:16 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:54 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:50 am
xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:56 pm


It also sheds quite a lot of info on me, Jamie, rivera and bozo.
Why did you endorse Foxcastle's call for BunnyGo to shoot bo_sox instead of advocating for BunnyGo to withhold his shot?
Because I wanted to see him flip so we had a more informed D2, and I was confident he was scum.
Even if you were confident, why risk giving up a mislynch by trying to get bo_sox shot instead of lynching him D2?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2144 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:18 am

xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:41 pm
That's unfortunate.

I understand the logic of Bunny holding if that's what he did, but I also wanted to see bo flip.

So brain is scum then. bo seems to be scum as well. More later.
Why did you say this about brainbomb at the start of D2?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2145 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:18 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:13 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:52 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:44 am


I am not sure I would call a 2 vote wagon a side wagon when the top wagons only had 3 votes.
Well, there wasn't a lot of trying to get others to join, so they had very little chance of becoming the lead wagon. Basically they were not interested in deciding between Bunny and bo_sox.
The choice between BunnyGo and bo_sox lasted approximately 2 minutes. At all other times, there were multiple wagons tied with either BunnyGo or bo_sox:

From 42 minutes to 10 minutes it was bo_sox 4, BunnyGo 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 10 minutes to 7 minutes it was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 7 minutes to 5 minutes it was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 3, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 5 minutes to 2 minutes it was BunnyGo 4, bo_sox 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 2 minutes to EOD it was BunnyGo 5, bo_sox 2, worcej 2, bozo 2, brainbomb 1, Foxcastle 1.
So what's your take on brainbomb's, emc's and damo's attitude throughout that time?

Also, did you see my question about your case on Jamie (and to some extent on me) having already been brought up by rivera? Were you aware of that?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2146 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:23 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:16 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:54 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:50 am


Why did you endorse Foxcastle's call for BunnyGo to shoot bo_sox instead of advocating for BunnyGo to withhold his shot?
Because I wanted to see him flip so we had a more informed D2, and I was confident he was scum.
Even if you were confident, why risk giving up a mislynch by trying to get bo_sox shot instead of lynching him D2?
I had no way of knowing if Bunny would shoot or not. If he was going to shoot, I preferred that he shoot bo over you (which would have been the obvious choice if his vote for you was an indicator). I did not consider a mis-shot to be a much worse outcome than a mislynch.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2147 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:24 am

xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:23 pm
Revisiting damo's only post with any significant game related content (aside from the somewhat absurd discussion he had with bo_sox), from the point of view of assuming scum!damo:
damo666 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:51 am
Well, seems like a week's worth of activity since my last post.

I take Fox's confession with a pinch of salt and townlean him for it. Double bluff possible but unlikely.
Consistent with town Fox.
Bo's tantrum (fake or teal) I didn't like but couple with the reversal statement seems town motivated.
Consistent with hedgy defense of teammate.
I think Xorxes is town (I always do).
Buddying.
rdr is sensible and I townlean
Buddying.
Sarah is obviously finding her feet. Funny start but increased rate of posting seems more town than scum to me.
Strange appreciation of Sarah's "progress". Could be teammate.
Bozo seems to be tunneling on Fox and Sarah. Not sure what to make of this. His patient zero performance last game has unnerved me.
No mention of bo.
Bunny is full of rabbit (haha), somewhat overdone, scumleaning.
Jokey, non-threatening scumreading of someone already under some pressure.
Still happy with my vote on brain with his vengeful obsession.
A comfortable spot to park his vote all day.
Nothing particularly outstanding from EMC, Jamie, kgray and worcej.
Here he run out of inspiration.

In conclusion: bo_sox-Sarah-damo, not a bad fit.
What was your reason for scum reading SK24 at this point?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2148 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:24 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:18 am
xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:41 pm
That's unfortunate.

I understand the logic of Bunny holding if that's what he did, but I also wanted to see bo flip.

So brain is scum then. bo seems to be scum as well. More later.
Why did you say this about brainbomb at the start of D2?
Because he started the day with a vote for me.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2149 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:25 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:24 am
xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:23 pm
Revisiting damo's only post with any significant game related content (aside from the somewhat absurd discussion he had with bo_sox), from the point of view of assuming scum!damo:
damo666 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:51 am
Well, seems like a week's worth of activity since my last post.

I take Fox's confession with a pinch of salt and townlean him for it. Double bluff possible but unlikely.
Consistent with town Fox.
Bo's tantrum (fake or teal) I didn't like but couple with the reversal statement seems town motivated.
Consistent with hedgy defense of teammate.
I think Xorxes is town (I always do).
Buddying.
rdr is sensible and I townlean
Buddying.
Sarah is obviously finding her feet. Funny start but increased rate of posting seems more town than scum to me.
Strange appreciation of Sarah's "progress". Could be teammate.
Bozo seems to be tunneling on Fox and Sarah. Not sure what to make of this. His patient zero performance last game has unnerved me.
No mention of bo.
Bunny is full of rabbit (haha), somewhat overdone, scumleaning.
Jokey, non-threatening scumreading of someone already under some pressure.
Still happy with my vote on brain with his vengeful obsession.
A comfortable spot to park his vote all day.
Nothing particularly outstanding from EMC, Jamie, kgray and worcej.
Here he run out of inspiration.

In conclusion: bo_sox-Sarah-damo, not a bad fit.
What was your reason for scum reading SK24 at this point?
It was the most obvious explanation for bo's freakout. You know that, why are you asking?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2150 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:23 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:16 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:54 am


Because I wanted to see him flip so we had a more informed D2, and I was confident he was scum.
Even if you were confident, why risk giving up a mislynch by trying to get bo_sox shot instead of lynching him D2?
I had no way of knowing if Bunny would shoot or not. If he was going to shoot, I preferred that he shoot bo over you (which would have been the obvious choice if his vote for you was an indicator). I did not consider a mis-shot to be a much worse outcome than a mislynch.
Did you where I pointed out that, unless there was a doc save, shooting a town would take us from 2 mislynches to 1 mislynch, but shooting a scum would not give us another mislynch?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2151 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:23 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:16 am


Even if you were confident, why risk giving up a mislynch by trying to get bo_sox shot instead of lynching him D2?
I had no way of knowing if Bunny would shoot or not. If he was going to shoot, I preferred that he shoot bo over you (which would have been the obvious choice if his vote for you was an indicator). I did not consider a mis-shot to be a much worse outcome than a mislynch.
Did you where I pointed out that, unless there was a doc save, shooting a town would take us from 2 mislynches to 1 mislynch, but shooting a scum would not give us another mislynch?
I don't remember if my comment was before or after reading your suggestion, but yes, I did read your suggestion at some point and I thought it made sense but I still wanted to see the flip.

I am answering your questions, I would appreciate it if you answered mine as well.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2152 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:25 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:24 am
xorxes wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:23 pm
Revisiting damo's only post with any significant game related content (aside from the somewhat absurd discussion he had with bo_sox), from the point of view of assuming scum!damo:



Consistent with town Fox.



Consistent with hedgy defense of teammate.



Buddying.



Buddying.



Strange appreciation of Sarah's "progress". Could be teammate.



No mention of bo.



Jokey, non-threatening scumreading of someone already under some pressure.



A comfortable spot to park his vote all day.



Here he run out of inspiration.

In conclusion: bo_sox-Sarah-damo, not a bad fit.
What was your reason for scum reading SK24 at this point?
It was the most obvious explanation for bo's freakout. You know that, why are you asking?
I thought it was at the time, but did you consider kgray's argument from N1 against the assumption that SK24 followed bo_sox's vote onto Foxcastle?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2153 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:32 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:23 am


I had no way of knowing if Bunny would shoot or not. If he was going to shoot, I preferred that he shoot bo over you (which would have been the obvious choice if his vote for you was an indicator). I did not consider a mis-shot to be a much worse outcome than a mislynch.
Did you where I pointed out that, unless there was a doc save, shooting a town would take us from 2 mislynches to 1 mislynch, but shooting a scum would not give us another mislynch?
I don't remember if my comment was before or after reading your suggestion, but yes, I did read your suggestion at some point and I thought it made sense but I still wanted to see the flip.

I am answering your questions, I would appreciate it if you answered mine as well.
Did I miss a question?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2154 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:36 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:25 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:24 am


What was your reason for scum reading SK24 at this point?
It was the most obvious explanation for bo's freakout. You know that, why are you asking?
I thought it was at the time, but did you consider kgray's argument from N1 against the assumption that SK24 followed bo_sox's vote onto Foxcastle?
Was that the one where Sarah's naked vote came some time after an exchange between Fox and worcej? Yes, I did think about it. Still, the explanation for bo's reaction was that either Sarah or Fox were his teammates, and I thought Sarah was more likely, but I still considered Fox a close contender.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2155 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:38 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:32 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:26 am


Did you where I pointed out that, unless there was a doc save, shooting a town would take us from 2 mislynches to 1 mislynch, but shooting a scum would not give us another mislynch?
I don't remember if my comment was before or after reading your suggestion, but yes, I did read your suggestion at some point and I thought it made sense but I still wanted to see the flip.

I am answering your questions, I would appreciate it if you answered mine as well.
Did I miss a question?
Twice.

Were you aware that rivera had made pretty much the same argument you made about Jamie's (and my) votes from EOD1?

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2156 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:40 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:18 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:13 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:52 am


Well, there wasn't a lot of trying to get others to join, so they had very little chance of becoming the lead wagon. Basically they were not interested in deciding between Bunny and bo_sox.
The choice between BunnyGo and bo_sox lasted approximately 2 minutes. At all other times, there were multiple wagons tied with either BunnyGo or bo_sox:

From 42 minutes to 10 minutes it was bo_sox 4, BunnyGo 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 10 minutes to 7 minutes it was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 7 minutes to 5 minutes it was bo_sox 3, BunnyGo 3, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 5 minutes to 2 minutes it was BunnyGo 4, bo_sox 2, worcej 2, brainbomb 2, bozo 2, Foxcastle 1.

From 2 minutes to EOD it was BunnyGo 5, bo_sox 2, worcej 2, bozo 2, brainbomb 1, Foxcastle 1.
So what's your take on brainbomb's, emc's and damo's attitude throughout that time?

Also, did you see my question about your case on Jamie (and to some extent on me) having already been brought up by rivera? Were you aware of that?
OK, I missed the first question here, but I did answer the second.

I agree that brainbomb, emc, and damo did not seem concerned who got lynched.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2157 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:41 am

I also asked about your take on brain's, damo's and emc's attitudes at EOD1.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2158 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:42 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:38 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:32 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:31 am


I don't remember if my comment was before or after reading your suggestion, but yes, I did read your suggestion at some point and I thought it made sense but I still wanted to see the flip.

I am answering your questions, I would appreciate it if you answered mine as well.
Did I miss a question?
Twice.

Were you aware that rivera had made pretty much the same argument you made about Jamie's (and my) votes from EOD1?
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:42 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:34 am
@bozo, this case you're now mounting against Jamie is something that rivera had already come up with, as soon as N1 I think. Were you aware of that?
Yes, and Jamie's D1 EOD is the reason I had him as my third highest scum read N1.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2159 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:44 am

xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:41 am
I also asked about your take on brain's, damo's and emc's attitudes at EOD1.
I think I am caught up.

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Re: M1010 Mini-Mafia

#2160 Post by xorxes » Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:52 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:42 am
xorxes wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:34 am
@bozo, this case you're now mounting against Jamie is something that rivera had already come up with, as soon as N1 I think. Were you aware of that?
Yes, and Jamie's D1 EOD is the reason I had him as my third highest scum read N1.
OK, I had missed this.

So what's your rough order of scummiest to towniest now?

Mine would go something like:

brain > rivera > damo/Sarah/emc/worcej > bozo/Jamie/Fox

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