M1010 Mini-Mafia

[SarahK24]

Also.... I think quite a few people are on to bo and I really agree with them sooo...
##Vote Bo_sox48

[SarahK24]

its a way to play
and it works for some folks

Okay...

[Chaqa]

M1010 Day 2 Vote Count 1
bo_sox48 (5): damo666, bozotheclown, xorxes, rdrivera2005, brainbomb
bozotheclown (2): Foxcastle, worcej
brainbomb (1): SarahK24

Need to vote: Jamiet99uj, bo_sox48, e.m.c^42

Roughly 4.5 hours left in the day.

[Chaqa]

M1010 Day 2 Vote Count 1.2
bo_sox48 (6): damo666, bozotheclown, xorxes, rdrivera2005, brainbomb, SarahK24
bozotheclown (2): Foxcastle, worcej

Need to vote: Jamiet99uj, bo_sox48, e.m.c^42

Roughly 4.5 hours left in the day.

(Sarah sniped me lol)

[SarahK24]

sorry

[brainbomb]

Jamiet99uj is Jamies loveable scuffy twin from Jutland

[damo666]

##end

let's get this done

[brainbomb]

Also.... I think quite a few people are on to bo and I really agree with them sooo...
##Vote Bo_sox48

oh good.

[SarahK24]

Also.... I think quite a few people are on to bo and I really agree with them sooo...
##Vote Bo_sox48

oh good.

Were you surprised?

[brainbomb]

I'm going to walk away from this game because there's no way I'm going to enjoy myself when the "aRe YoU aNd sArAh tEaMmAtEs" crowd is going to harass me into oblivion. I don't blame yall for doing it at all because it's obviously suspect as hell, but since I have been robbed of the credibility necessary to hunt scum and persuade anyone to give a fuck about what I think and am probably not going to take a NK (at least before Sarah is dead, and only then in the event that she flips town), I have no purpose here given my role, so I'm not going to spend any of my time spinning my wheels over it.

Chaqa, if you want to replace me, go for it, but if you don't then I'll keep the seat warm for ya

bo gave up in this post. and yet he tries to survive eod. So certainly something odd happened. I am wondering why he would think his ability to be listened to was shattered here. he never cares that much what ppl think

[brainbomb]

Brainbomb has struck me as noncommittal this game, which is weird because usually brainbomb overcommits. I'm not building a case on D1 as there's no point in doing that, but I am voting for him and I'll probably stay there if there is any traction at all.

I'm around for an hour. Hit me.

##VOTE brainbomb

To expand a bit on brainbomb, here are two other things I've noticed:

• When brainbomb asked if we would all be willing to be the vengeful's kill, he answered yes. This was to gain towncred regardless of his alignment. My answer, and everyone's answer, should be a confident and loud no. I do not recall a scenario in which brainbomb cared about towncred in the past as either alignment.

• Brainbomb is playing extremely loosely, which on its own is obviously NAI. However, brainbomb has said a million and one times that he really enjoys playing as scum. My memory is bad, mostly because if you read more than a third of what brainbomb says you'll go insane, but I don't remember him playing quite this loosely as town on day 1 in the past. I think he's having a lot of fun being snarky, coy, and happy-go-lucky, but as a result he as not taken the time to invest himself in trying to solve the game. Instead, he's spent pages joking about things like PR hunting rather than trying things that might elicit reactions or gain information.

Make of it what you will.

So much for no case

[brainbomb]

↑brainbomb: "why give up on a plan that caught scum

oh you bussed duh"

Lol vote for bozo then. Remember when you townread me

Bo trying to convince me to vote bozo, while bo is voting me. weird af lol

[e.m.c^42]

Jamie, my thoughts on Sarah yesterday were rivera's current ones.

I don't think the "noob" explanation really carries that far (to explain away all her current posts) - Off the top of my head see me, bob, kit, flav - there's definitely more people I'm forgetting.

and playing up being confused when you are confused is incredibly, incredibly easy. So I think that is a possibility.

Voting came to be not necessarily a strong scumread of any sort but out of not really scumreading any of the top wagons then.

Would you like to try that again in English?

Aw fuck, yeah.

[brainbomb]

If you want to pick at my verbiage instead of acknowledging my point, I will beat you at your own game. I promise.

Your reads are your own. Other people's reads matching yours should have no bearing on what you think of them. If someone's reads did not match yours, you should take it upon yourself to qualify their statements. Are their reads justifiable? Do their reads indicate that they are trying to protect someone, or contrarily do they tunnel on someone and put more focus on that person that they should? We do not all think like you, and you clearly do not think like all of us, brainbomb included. Whether or not his reads match yours has absolutely no bearing on anyone's alignment, and the fact that you just magically go from scumreading him to townreading him because he posted reads on three people leads me to wonder whether you're just flat out stupid or whether or not you wanted an excuse to get away from voting for brainbomb because I was trying to drive traction back toward him.

This was directed at damo
looks like he was annoyed at damo waivering on scumreading me.

[Foxcastle]

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let's get this done

I assume Damo is trying to score some extra time in the Mafia chat to strategize.

[brainbomb]

there might be 2 scumteams also in this setup
which means theres 6 scum not 3

Can you stop with this, Brainbomb? Isn't this "angleshooting" that you're so adamant should be against the rules? There's no place in the game for trying to create confusion based on out-of-game angles about the GMs intention and actions.

forced

[brainbomb]

its a boring conclusion but it looks like its bo, fox and sarah

[Foxcastle]

there might be 2 scumteams also in this setup
which means theres 6 scum not 3

Can you stop with this, Brainbomb? Isn't this "angleshooting" that you're so adamant should be against the rules? There's no place in the game for trying to create confusion based on out-of-game angles about the GMs intention and actions.

forced

No. It's like when you make cheating accusations in the thread, or when somebody invokes the GM as a ploy. Besides that it should be out of bounds, saying that the GM is running some secret backend to the game is a shitty thing to do; the GM has to either sit there and take it or intervene and interrupt the flow of game.

[worcej]

Sorry, I see the issue - auto correct screwed me. Dismissive is what I wanted.

I see. You don't believe scum!bo_sox would be dismissive of people scumreading him?

It's more a matter of experience. I've seen him be more dismissive and agitated when he is town and gets scummed. Do you agree with this assessment?

[worcej]

People's opinions on Sarah, our newbie, are interesting.

Rdrivera claims to be very keen to lynch Sarah but after voting her briefly, has moved off.

Xorxes claims to scumread Sarah but is opposed to lynching her.

Brainbomb claims to scumread Sarah (but his reads have been all over the place as usual)

Bo_Sox potentially wanted to lynch her last night but hasn't mentioned her today.

Foxcastle has gone from "probably town" on Sarah to a null read.

Worcej appears to townlean her.

Bozo has implied she could be either depending on how Bo flips. (Also I don't like how everyone is calling her "Sarah" except Bozo using "SK24")


@Foxcastle: What changed your read on Sarah from "probably town" to null?
@Bo_Sox: Current Sarah read?

I townlean her because she appears overwhelmed, which makes sense for a town person due to the normal town lack of information.

While some think this is something she could be faking, I think it would be a lot easier to detect now and we would have seen a large increase in her quality of posting/play after coaching, but I just don't see it. I've also been against the thought that she decided to follow Bo that quickly because I cannot remember someone being that bad in their first game, let alone first scum game.

Lots of interesting talk here...
Am I really *that* bad

It's not that you're bad, but I don't see a noticeable shift to suggest you were coached.