M1010 Mini-Mafia

[xorxes]

tbh id be okay just massclaiming and say fuck the damn prs. all weere all doing us sussing innocents and scums having zero problem nuking em as it is

Ridiculous.

[brainbomb]

tbh id be okay just massclaiming and say fuck the damn prs. all weere all doing us sussing innocents and scums having zero problem nuking em as it is

Ridiculous.

meh

[xorxes]

this is very eerily like last game in most respects

First two deaths yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

tbh id be okay just massclaiming and say fuck the damn prs. all weere all doing us sussing innocents and scums having zero problem nuking em as it is

There has been exactly one lynch.

[Jamiet99uk]

tbh id be okay just massclaiming and say fuck the damn prs. all weere all doing us sussing innocents and scums having zero problem nuking em as it is

There has been exactly one lynch.

Literally Brainbomb is trying to make it sound like it's fucking Day Four or something and there has been a succession of mislynches.

Unless...

[xorxes]

This is something that bothered me at the time but I sort of let it pass:

IN THE EVENT THE VENGEFUL DIES

Are you willing to be his kill today
My answer is yes

please answer this question all

I don't understand this question Brain and neither your answer? Why a town would want to be Vengeful target? Why a scum would want to be the target?

Why “scummy”? Why not just “vapid”? Or “useless”?

The question itself is pretty useless as it is unlikely to be answered by most.
The posing of the question is scummy as it smacks of PR hunting.

Bingo. I find really odd only Damo seems to notice this.

@rd, if you did notice it, why did you question brain about it in a way that seemed you didn't really care about those implications? You don't usually refrain from calling out something you think is scummy.

[bozotheclown]

I've got nothing clever right now. ##VOTE DAMO

What happened to this:

I think Bo is the most interesting BunnyGo target. It adds information about whether D1 was TvT or TvS and it helps shed additional light on two other players, me and SarahK. I'm not sure anyone else's flip provides that much useful intel, and I think that would be a good option weighed against the likelihood of aiming for scum and hitting town.

Did I say I thought Bo was scum?

You implied you thought D1 could have been town vs. scum. BunnyGo shooting anyone was a bad idea, since it would likely cost us a mislynch if he hit a town. If you thought flipping bo_sox was useful, you should have been advocating for him to be the next lynch.

[Foxcastle]

What happened to this:

Did I say I thought Bo was scum?

You implied you thought D1 could have been town vs. scum. BunnyGo shooting anyone was a bad idea, since it would likely cost us a mislynch if he hit a town. If you thought flipping bo_sox was useful, you should have been advocating for him to be the next lynch.

And?

[bozotheclown]

Did I say I thought Bo was scum?

You implied you thought D1 could have been town vs. scum. BunnyGo shooting anyone was a bad idea, since it would likely cost us a mislynch if he hit a town. If you thought flipping bo_sox was useful, you should have been advocating for him to be the next lynch.

And?

You are not advocating to lynch him, as would be expected.

[Foxcastle]

You implied you thought D1 could have been town vs. scum. BunnyGo shooting anyone was a bad idea, since it would likely cost us a mislynch if he hit a town. If you thought flipping bo_sox was useful, you should have been advocating for him to be the next lynch.

And?

You are not advocating to lynch him, as would be expected.

And?

[bozotheclown]

I see big contradictions in 1) Bo's in-depth attention to defending himself, 2) his acknowledgement that the deadlines were different, 3) not checking on when the deadline is, 4) not checking on whether he missed the deadline this morning, and 5) proceeding at full speed without regard to whether he missed the deadline.

I've got nothing clever right now. ##VOTE DAMO

Why do you not care anymore about the contradictions you saw?

[Foxcastle]

I’m just curious why you’re being shady rather than solvy, Bozo.

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE BOZO

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE BOZO

Bozo, Brainbomb, and Damo.

[bozotheclown]

bozotheclown - town. I like the way he pushed bo yesterday and reacted to his own pressure, and I think he's coming from a towny mindset.
bo_sox48 - I did think him quitting was scummy but thought he seemed towny when he came back. The biggest thing I don't like about him is that he tried to make it sound like people were only voting for Fox because they thought he was bussing Fox, when half the Fox wagon at the time did it because Fox claimed to be scum. I think that using Sarah's vote as the main case against bo would be silly, but there are enough other reasons for peoples' scumreads of bo that I don't think the pressure on him is unjustified.
brainbomb - brain is really different from last game, imo. He seems more annoyed and less involved. I don't know what that means about his alignment. I didn't like his EOD at all, I think fake claiming to get out of a lynch is really scummy, regardless of if you do that often.
damo666 - I didn't like damo's EOE either, he seemed like he was just watching what happened without really caring about the result, which seemed weird because he had said he thought bo could be town and especially now that he's saying he still thinks brain is scum. I think damo/brain could be scum together, but probably not damo/bo.
e.m.c^42 - emc seems towny. He called himself out for also not having a great EOD, but that's hard for me to parse without being clear on who emc's reads are and why. I don't see where he explained his scumread of Sarah and he said he couldn't articulate why he thought worcej was scummy - hopefully he can figure that out soon and share with us.
Foxcastle - I really don't think Fox claiming scum is that scummy. If it's out of character for him, then maybe, but if he thought he was going to be lynched through no fault of his own (bozo was voting him even though he had a stronger scumread on bo) then I think his claim is NAI. Overall Fox has seemed fairly towny to me. I think a bo/Fox/Sarah scumteam is unlikely, because I don't think if Sarah is noob-scum she'd vote for her teammate.
Jamiet99uk - pretty null, but leaning towards town.
SarahK24 - null. I'm not at all convinced that Sarah and bo are scum together. I think the main point against that theory is that she tried to vote a few hours before bo's Foxcastle vote. And, when she had that invalid vote, Fox and worcej had been talking about how they would deal with their protest later. This is the only thing I can find that would cause Sarah to think worcej was Fox's scheming partner.
rdrivera2005 - towny. He seems similar to last game.
xorxes - town. He seems very different from last game.
worcej - pretty null, but leaning towards town.

I assume scum killed Kgray simply to be vindicate in making us read through her EON reads without any spacing between entries...

I did not see any cop crumbs.

Town reads: Bozo, EMC, Fox, Jamiet, Rdrivera, Xorxes, Worcej.

Scum reads: Brain, Damo.

Nulls: Bo, SarahK.

I think it's early enough that scum aren't worried about eliminating someone who's going to push a wagon, so I think it's more likely that did it to freeze her incorrect reads in place. (As well as avoid the Doctor, I assume.)

What makes you think kgray's reads are incorrect?

[rdrivera2005]

Townlean at the moment, but open to hear a case. His defense of Sarah was so paternalistic that I can't help but see him as town.

You know that we can't let Sarah stay around much longer, don't you?

I think I understand what you're implying, but are you implying she is an issue if she is town because of how she is playing or that you legit think she is scum?

I think she has a decent chance to be scum but mostly she is making impossible to sort her. That's why I am pushing her and she gave a scumlist with Fox and Worcej because they are up to something and Brain because she doesn't like him. I don't know how old are she, but my 11 year old daughter could give something better then this.

[bozotheclown]

I’m just curious why you’re being shady rather than solvy, Bozo.

The way Bozo has handled this has been obscenely opportunistic and so poorly thought out that it's hard to believe it comes from him. Fortunately for him, I don't scumread him for it.

Also, I know he's town, so... That makes it easier.

On D1 you thought I was "obscenely opportunistic" but you still town read me. What has changed?

[bozotheclown]

I’m just curious why you’re being shady rather than solvy, Bozo.

Can you give specific examples for this generalization?

[Foxcastle]

I’m just curious why you’re being shady rather than solvy, Bozo.

The way Bozo has handled this has been obscenely opportunistic and so poorly thought out that it's hard to believe it comes from him. Fortunately for him, I don't scumread him for it.

Also, I know he's town, so... That makes it easier.

On D1 you thought I was "obscenely opportunistic" but you still town read me. What has changed?

And?

[rdrivera2005]

Nope, I'm more or less set in stone about bo_sox, I highly suspect either you or Fox is a teammate and I'm not too sure which, but not both, and by POE I think the last one is one of damo or rivera or brainbomb. Currently damo is my pick, but I still have to look into rivera.

Hmmm.....
Atm I dont really have an urge to prove u wrong or right

OK... I won't be pushing for your lynch today, anyway. I think we have to lynch bo_sox first.

##VOTE bo_sox

I agree with you but I fear we just lose if Bo isn't scum. Are you so sure to take this risk?