M1010 Mini-Mafia

[bo_sox48]

The problem is you hedge too much. You say "in your short posts, you've made several observations that I did not think were scum-motivated ones", he grabs that and runs with it, ignoring all the rest.

I do not believe I will ever make a "not hedging" posts by those standards lol

What I don't quite understand is how he read "not scum-motivated" as meaning NAI, when it's pretty equivalent to "towny"

Because you seem to be using "wifom points" as a way to work around continuing to call them "things I think are scummy." It doesn't read like a townread to me; it reads like a hedge.

[bo_sox48]

I think Bo is the most interesting BunnyGo target. It adds information about whether D1 was TvT or TvS and it helps shed additional light on two other players, me and SarahK. I'm not sure anyone else's flip provides that much useful intel, and I think that would be a good option weighed against the likelihood of aiming for scum and hitting town.

It also sheds quite a lot of info on me, Jamie, rivera and bozo.

If the town at large thinks my death is useful, then I welcome it, but I would rather that happen via lynch so that I have a clear opportunity to do analysis and leave my thoughts behind when I die.

[Jamiet99uk]

HELLO, BO_SOX

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

IT IS TIME TO LEAVE THE CAPSULE.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE bo_sox

[bo_sox48]

If BunnyGo does not fire, it will be 8-3 tomorrow, and we will have 2 mislynches, assuming no doc saves. If BunnyGo fires and hits town, it will be 7-3 tomorrow, and we will have 1 mislynch, assuming no doc saves. If BunnyGo fires and hits scum, it will be 8-2 tomorrow, and we will have 2 mislynch, assuming no doc saves. So, the correct play is for BunnyGo not to shoot, because it could cost us a mislynch, with a low chance of gaining us a mislynch. The only way it would gain us a mislynch is if he hits scum and we get a doc save.

Since BunnyGo ended the day voting for me, I am concerned he could shoot me, which would likely result in town only having 1 mislynch available.

You've posted War and Peace on Bo_Sox, seeming very confident he's scum. Yet rather than advocating for Bunny to shoot Bo, your avowed scumread, you'd rather he simply drifts away to the God QT without firing?

I mean, your numbers aren't wrong, but this suggests you're less confident of your Bo_Sox read than you've been suggesting, Bozo.

We are better off lynching bo_sox in case I am wrong.

But your opinion is irrelevant.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE bo_sox

Do you think his current oblivious weirdness is indicative of anything?

Is it a really weird fake towntell?

What is the matter with him?

[bo_sox48]

##Vote xorxes

Busy all night in the mafia chat?

[bozotheclown]

Here is my list from top scum read to top town read:

bo_sox: fake quitting is enough to be my top scum read, regardless of the other things I have pointed out

Foxcastle: scum claim is enough to be my second scum read, regardless of his connection to bo_sox

Jamie: questionable D1 EOD, but read tied to bo_sox

worcej: questionable reasons for scum reading me, questionable scum reads of others

SK24: seems overly cautious, may be scum, may be town MVP

damo: nothing too suspicious, but did not get involved at EOD

xorxes: seems to agree with me about a number of things, could be pocketing me, but not too worried yet

rdrivera: not a lot of participation, but I generally agree with what he has said

brainbomb: fake claim seems more likely to be town motivated, but you never know

emc: I like his analysis so far

kgray: if she is pocketing me, she is doing a good job

These are remarkably bad reads.

Which reads do you think are remarkably bad (besides my read of you)?

[bo_sox48]

If BunnyGo does not fire, it will be 8-3 tomorrow, and we will have 2 mislynches, assuming no doc saves. If BunnyGo fires and hits town, it will be 7-3 tomorrow, and we will have 1 mislynch, assuming no doc saves. If BunnyGo fires and hits scum, it will be 8-2 tomorrow, and we will have 2 mislynch, assuming no doc saves. So, the correct play is for BunnyGo not to shoot, because it could cost us a mislynch, with a low chance of gaining us a mislynch. The only way it would gain us a mislynch is if he hits scum and we get a doc save.

Since BunnyGo ended the day voting for me, I am concerned he could shoot me, which would likely result in town only having 1 mislynch available.

I think we can safely assume that BunnyGo will shoot brainbomb, his fake counterclaim.

What?

Night has ended.

We know who died.

BunnyGo either targeted Kgray or didn't kill anyone.

I'm reading from page 71 onward. I did not know when the deadline for the night was, as I made perfectly clear last night.

[e.m.c^42]

Did bo prewrite posts and set a bot to post them?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE bo_sox

Do you think his current oblivious weirdness is indicative of anything?

Is it a really weird fake towntell?

What is the matter with him?

My guess is it is fake.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think we can safely assume that BunnyGo will shoot brainbomb, his fake counterclaim.

What?

Night has ended.

We know who died.

BunnyGo either targeted Kgray or didn't kill anyone.

I'm reading from page 71 onward. I did not know when the deadline for the night was, as I made perfectly clear last night.

Well now you've made yourself look like an enormous weirdo.

Bravo.

[xorxes]

That's unfortunate.

I understand the logic of Bunny holding if that's what he did, but I also wanted to see bo flip.

So brain is scum then. bo seems to be scum as well. More later.

[bo_sox48]

Here is my list from top scum read to top town read:

bo_sox: fake quitting is enough to be my top scum read, regardless of the other things I have pointed out

Foxcastle: scum claim is enough to be my second scum read, regardless of his connection to bo_sox

Jamie: questionable D1 EOD, but read tied to bo_sox

worcej: questionable reasons for scum reading me, questionable scum reads of others

SK24: seems overly cautious, may be scum, may be town MVP

damo: nothing too suspicious, but did not get involved at EOD

xorxes: seems to agree with me about a number of things, could be pocketing me, but not too worried yet

rdrivera: not a lot of participation, but I generally agree with what he has said

brainbomb: fake claim seems more likely to be town motivated, but you never know

emc: I like his analysis so far

kgray: if she is pocketing me, she is doing a good job

These are remarkably bad reads.

Which reads do you think are remarkably bad (besides my read of you)?

"seems overly cautious, may be scum, may be town MVP"

"seems to agree with me about a number of things, could be pocketing me, but not too worried yet"

"not a lot of participation, but I generally agree with what he has said"

"I like his analysis so far"

"if she is pocketing me, she is doing a good job"

Why even bother?

"nothing too suspicious, but did not get involved at EOD"

Is this a townread or scumread?

"fake claim seems more likely to be town motivated, but you never know"

???

[bo_sox48]

What?

Night has ended.

We know who died.

BunnyGo either targeted Kgray or didn't kill anyone.

I'm reading from page 71 onward. I did not know when the deadline for the night was, as I made perfectly clear last night.

Well now you've made yourself look like an enormous weirdo.

Bravo.

Coming from you this could not mean less to me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Well now you've made yourself look like an enormous weirdo.

Bravo.

Coming from you this could not mean less to me.

I forgive you for this remark.

Unfortunately, I don't think I'm the only one who thinks you're an enormous weirdo.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE BRAINBOMB

My best theories on Brainbomb's lying, fakeclaiming shenanigans at EoD are as follows:

1. Bo_Sox is the JOAT and Brainbomb is a goon, and he fakeclaimed Vengeful (having crumbed it several times during the day) in the hope of both (a) saving Bo_Sox and (b) pressuring the real Vengeful to counterclaim so they could Strongman kill the Vengeful N1.

Or:

2. Brainbomb thinks I am a town PR, and was hoping my immediate reaction to his claim he was using his Vengeful kill on me, would be that I would either (a) claim my role to stop *him* from being lynched and then killing me too, or (b) react in some other way that would confirm his suspicions about my role.

[e.m.c^42]

"seems overly cautious, may be scum, may be town MVP"
[There is not enough content to tell, so NAI]

"seems to agree with me about a number of things, could be pocketing me, but not too worried yet"
[Town, but due to base of the read there is possibility of it being pocketing]

"not a lot of participation, but I generally agree with what he has said"
[Prob town]

"I like his analysis so far"
[Prob town]

"if she is pocketing me, she is doing a good job"
[Unlikely to be doing this well as scum so town]

Why even bother?

"nothing too suspicious, but did not get involved at EOD"
[Nothing particularly scummy, but the lack of EOD activity is a slight]

Is this a townread or scumread?

"fake claim seems more likely to be town motivated, but you never know" [Prob town off top of head, without digging into it]

???

I am not bozo but this is how I read it

[damo666]

You spent a significant amount of time trying to justify to me that you had a null read on brainbomb instead of a townread as I interpreted you saying. Now you are happy with your vote and hope to be proved right. You do see the contradiction here, don't you?

Why are you blatantly lying? I was scumreading brain from his 'survey' and never moved my vote from him. In ONE post I expressed some doubt over my read. His subsequent posts have reinforced my scumread of him.

I did not spend a significant time trying to justify a null read. I never even used the word 'null'.

I am tired of your badgering me with falsehoods. I gave you the benefit of the doubt regarding your alignment. I am now doubting my judgement in this respect and suspect you are scum trying to set me up for a lynch.

If Bunny doesn't kill brain I hope he kills you.

If we both survive the night I will be voting for you.

You said this, in response to three insignificant reads:

rivera is town
xorx is town
bo is probably town

maybe brain isn't scum...

When you say "maybe brain isn't scum..." you clearly imply that you thought he was, and now you don't. No lies there.

When I called you out on this, you told me this:

I didn't go from scumreading bb to townreading him. I simply expressed doubt about my scumread.

Therefore, you scumread him. Thank you for admitting that.

So, you expressed doubt about your scumread, but you said "maybe brain isn't scum." Therefore, brain maybe is town. At best, that's a null read. At worst, it's a town read. We can go either way; I don't care because there is still no lie.

All of this stems from the fact that you changed your mind on brain because he read three people the same way as you read those three people, and now you are voting for me because you are responding emotionally to being called out for being a dumbass as opposed to taking it as in-game constructive criticism and learning how to hunt more effectively.

You're going to look awful for this when I flip town, and at this stage I have no doubt I will at some point flip.

It IS A LIE to say I spent a significant time trying to justify a null read on brain [paraphrasing].

You are either deliberately trying to wind me up or an arrogant fool with an over inflated opinion of yourself.

I neither want nor need any lessons from you.

[bo_sox48]

You definitely need them, but okay.