M1010 Mini-Mafia

[xorxes]

I'm going to make myself scarce for awhile before I get worn out, but my takeaways are that brainbomb and Jamie both need to die, and when we hit scum perhaps for information's sake I do too. I got very little traction going on either bozo, but I'm open to him being town. I am growing ever more confident that Jamie and brainbomb are teammates.

"either bozo" ?

Are there multiple bozos?

Interesting. Who else was going to go there in the first draft?

[rdrivera2005]

I have 10 pages to read. Why do you choose to lynch Bunny over Bo?

Bo is great at dodging the kill on D1. Last game I was vig I had the order to shoot him wrote and didn't send (and he was scum and I shoot a townie).

Jamiet and Xorxes look pretty bad only based on the bot. Will read now.

[bo_sox48]

I'd happily have lynched him but he was a 2-vote wagon vs a 3-vote wagon and a 4-vote wagon with like 4 minutes left or something, and I had only just moved to BunnyGo.

When you voted for Bunny there were 3 votes on me, 2 on Bunny, 2 on Fox, and 2 on brainbomb.

If you are town, you have very little reason to suspect Jamie was doing any shennanigans. If you are scum, he may have been trying to save you.

I see him avoiding voting someone who I feel is playing the most scummy game of anyone here, not to mention I already told you I think their theatrics were fake. Flip him and let Bunny take care of brainbomb, and then from there I trust this town to figure out the last one.

[xorxes]

I have 10 pages to read. Why do you choose to lynch Bunny over Bo?

Bo is great at dodging the kill on D1. Last game I was vig I had the order to shoot him wrote and didn't send (and he was scum and I shoot a townie).

Jamiet and Xorxes look pretty bad only based on the bot. Will read now.

[xorxes]

When you voted for Bunny there were 3 votes on me, 2 on Bunny, 2 on Fox, and 2 on brainbomb.

If you are town, you have very little reason to suspect Jamie was doing any shennanigans. If you are scum, he may have been trying to save you.

I see him avoiding voting someone who I feel is playing the most scummy game of anyone here, not to mention I already told you I think their theatrics were fake. Flip him and let Bunny take care of brainbomb, and then from there I trust this town to figure out the last one.

You have not answered why Jamie would rather lynch Bunny over you.

[bo_sox48]

If you are town, you have very little reason to suspect Jamie was doing any shennanigans. If you are scum, he may have been trying to save you.

I see him avoiding voting someone who I feel is playing the most scummy game of anyone here, not to mention I already told you I think their theatrics were fake. Flip him and let Bunny take care of brainbomb, and then from there I trust this town to figure out the last one.

You have not answered why Jamie would rather lynch Bunny over you.

Did you ask? Perhaps reading and noticing that he consistently scumread Bunny and never scumread me would answer your question, though.

[xorxes]

That's a strange question from xorx lol

Was that me asking bo_sox why he wasn't voting for Bunny, which was his main counterwagon? Why was it a strange question?

[bo_sox48]

I'd happily have lynched him but he was a 2-vote wagon vs a 3-vote wagon and a 4-vote wagon with like 4 minutes left or something, and I had only just moved to BunnyGo.

When you voted for Bunny there were 3 votes on me, 2 on Bunny, 2 on Fox, and 2 on brainbomb.

Oh. Everything happened extremely quickly - partly due to Brainbomb's shenanigans.

What do you think he was actually doing?

I think that ever since I called him out for playing overtly loosely and scumread him for it, he's just turned his game into an eternal joke, a la Vecna.

[kgray]

I'm back, sorry for my little absence.

I genuinely had to call a friend, he's an older guy who's not on social media and I promised another friend that I would check on him this evening, so I've just been on the phone to him. (He's fine but appreciated the call, and we had a little chat).

Jamie why did you feel the need to explain all this?

[xorxes]

I see him avoiding voting someone who I feel is playing the most scummy game of anyone here, not to mention I already told you I think their theatrics were fake. Flip him and let Bunny take care of brainbomb, and then from there I trust this town to figure out the last one.

You have not answered why Jamie would rather lynch Bunny over you.

Did you ask? Perhaps reading and noticing that he consistently scumread Bunny and never scumread me would answer your question, though.

He had been voting for you for seven hours.

[xorxes]

When you voted for Bunny there were 3 votes on me, 2 on Bunny, 2 on Fox, and 2 on brainbomb.

Oh. Everything happened extremely quickly - partly due to Brainbomb's shenanigans.

What do you think he was actually doing?

I think that ever since I called him out for playing overtly loosely and scumread him for it, he's just turned his game into an eternal joke, a la Vecna.

I can buy that.

[worcej]

Sorry, it's not obvious to me. To clarify: you think bozo is different because he didn't do a survey, and scummy because he built his case on bo based on what Sarah did? What do you think about bozo voting for Fox?

In order:

1. Yes, the lack of a dumb survey is abnormal from bozo. Additionally, his focus on a new player is not normal to me - 19 of his 54 posts are directed at her by my count. I'd expect more of this from an established player because he could get someone to crack, but it just seems too contrived/forced. To then transition it to saying Bo needs to be flipped to confirm her is a weird stretch. As you may know, I hate the team pairs logic, especially this early in the game, and it is weak reasoning to push a lynch.
2. I think bozo is voting with little reason and is being opportunistic, which strikes me as being easy to do as scum. Scum don't want to stick their ass out so that it gets burned - they are cautious.

Okay, you think bozo's questioning of Sarah is forced. I could see that, but she also wasn't being very forthcoming with her answers. Do you not think it's possible that bozo was excited to have found something scummy, and was trying to figure out if it is actually indicative of Sarah being scum? I also did not find where bozo said bo needs to be flipped to confirm Sarah's alignment. Will you please point that post out for me?

I guess my question about bozo voting Fox was more along the lines of: why would scum-bozo build up a case against bo but then vote for Fox? If scum-bozo is trying to be cautious and not stick his neck out, wouldn't it make more sense for him to vote the person who he claims he more strongly scumreads? It was still very early in the day for him to vote for Fox assuming it would remain the largest wagon and he could hide there.

There are numerous people who are not forthcoming to constant questioning, myself included in that group. Perhaps bozo was excited as you mention, but I have never seen an excited bozo so I don't really think that to be the case. Every time I read his posts, I take them as calm and collected.

My wording was off with saying bozo indicated need, but what I saw was bozo pressuring sarah under the context of being new and possibly following a teammate then leading to a case being made on bo (the long Bozo post explaining the case on page 38). I took it as incredibly fabricated.

Why would scum-bozo build a case on bo and then vote for Fox? Good question - it also doesn't make much sense to build a case and then not stand by it with a vote. Though he explains his own reasoning on page 38, so I don't need to put words in his mouth.

[worcej]

In order:

1. Yes, the lack of a dumb survey is abnormal from bozo. Additionally, his focus on a new player is not normal to me - 19 of his 54 posts are directed at her by my count. I'd expect more of this from an established player because he could get someone to crack, but it just seems too contrived/forced. To then transition it to saying Bo needs to be flipped to confirm her is a weird stretch. As you may know, I hate the team pairs logic, especially this early in the game, and it is weak reasoning to push a lynch.
2. I think bozo is voting with little reason and is being opportunistic, which strikes me as being easy to do as scum. Scum don't want to stick their ass out so that it gets burned - they are cautious.

Okay, you think bozo's questioning of Sarah is forced. I could see that, but she also wasn't being very forthcoming with her answers. Do you not think it's possible that bozo was excited to have found something scummy, and was trying to figure out if it is actually indicative of Sarah being scum? I also did not find where bozo said bo needs to be flipped to confirm Sarah's alignment. Will you please point that post out for me?

I guess my question about bozo voting Fox was more along the lines of: why would scum-bozo build up a case against bo but then vote for Fox? If scum-bozo is trying to be cautious and not stick his neck out, wouldn't it make more sense for him to vote the person who he claims he more strongly scumreads? It was still very early in the day for him to vote for Fox assuming it would remain the largest wagon and he could hide there.

Thanks, you covered the 2 things I was going to say about this post. One, that I never said bo_sox needs to be flipped to resolve SK24's alignment. Two, that I think characterizing my vote for Foxcastle to make him the lead wagon as cautious is inaccurate.

Of course you don't like me thinking you're scum. That's a given.

[xorxes]

I'm back, sorry for my little absence.

I genuinely had to call a friend, he's an older guy who's not on social media and I promised another friend that I would check on him this evening, so I've just been on the phone to him. (He's fine but appreciated the call, and we had a little chat).

Jamie why did you feel the need to explain all this?

That is admittedly kind of weird. As if anyone would put in doubt that he needed to make a phonecall.

[bo_sox48]

You have not answered why Jamie would rather lynch Bunny over you.

Did you ask? Perhaps reading and noticing that he consistently scumread Bunny and never scumread me would answer your question, though.

He had been voting for you for seven hours.

He voted for me for emotionally driven reasons, which he acknowledged, and never scumread me. Please read the thread instead of looking at the bot. Hell, he even scumread Bunny in the post where he voted for me.

[kgray]

Damo lurked through this entire EOD without doing anything.

This. Despite the fact that damo had previously said bo was probably town, he didn't seem at all interested in doing anything to prevent bo's lynch. He made no effort to make his vote count in any meaningful way whatsoever.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm back, sorry for my little absence.

I genuinely had to call a friend, he's an older guy who's not on social media and I promised another friend that I would check on him this evening, so I've just been on the phone to him. (He's fine but appreciated the call, and we had a little chat).

Jamie why did you feel the need to explain all this?

It's not much to explain, it took me all of 30 seconds to type. I am an RSA qualified touch-typist and used to have an accurate typing speed of just over 100 words per minute.

Personally, I like to know who is on at EoD, so I like it if people make themselves known. I extend the same courtesy to others.

[xorxes]

Okay, you think bozo's questioning of Sarah is forced. I could see that, but she also wasn't being very forthcoming with her answers. Do you not think it's possible that bozo was excited to have found something scummy, and was trying to figure out if it is actually indicative of Sarah being scum? I also did not find where bozo said bo needs to be flipped to confirm Sarah's alignment. Will you please point that post out for me?

I guess my question about bozo voting Fox was more along the lines of: why would scum-bozo build up a case against bo but then vote for Fox? If scum-bozo is trying to be cautious and not stick his neck out, wouldn't it make more sense for him to vote the person who he claims he more strongly scumreads? It was still very early in the day for him to vote for Fox assuming it would remain the largest wagon and he could hide there.

Thanks, you covered the 2 things I was going to say about this post. One, that I never said bo_sox needs to be flipped to resolve SK24's alignment. Two, that I think characterizing my vote for Foxcastle to make him the lead wagon as cautious is inaccurate.

Of course you don't like me thinking you're scum. That's a given.

@worcej, not sure if you're being naive or disingenuous here. What he said he didn't like is you calling his action cautious, which really I don't see how you can describe it as cautious.

[worcej]

@worcej: I don't think you ever reacted to Sarah's opinion that Fox was conspiring with you. Were you not the least bit curious about what made her think that?

@Sarah, what made you think that? Can you point to one post that gave you that idea?

I didn't think much of it because I did not see any reason why she would think that, especially that her reasoning was it was a sneaking suspicion.

Why dogpile her when she literally explained why she felt that way already?

[Foxcastle]

It's not much to explain, it took me all of 30 seconds to type. I am an RSA qualified touch-typist and used to have an accurate typing speed of just over 100 words per minute.

Weirdest one-sided dick-measuring contest I've ever been to. We get it, Jamiet, if you laid your wang on the keyboard, it would stretch all the way from A to Z.