M1010 Mini-Mafia

[kgray]

Hmm. I guess you don’t trust what I’m saying. How have I given you doubt that I’m reading, rereading, and trying to listen to motivations?

Most recently, because your reaction to this post was to insinuate that I want our PRs to be revealed. What about my post could possibly lead you to believe that? What possible town motivation could you have for trying to deflect this onto me in a way that makes so little sense?

You said “Brain was literally asking us not to lynch him so he could reveal our PRs”. It’s that STUPID literal reading you’re making that leads me to believe you either WANT our PRs doxxed, or seem only capable of thinking surface level. I know the second isn’t true. So for some reason you decided to attack me for suggesting we should consider lynching somebody promising to dox PRs.

Brain said this:

if you spare my life I will reveal the PR this night phase. before all. to discuss

You said this:

It’s interesting that Brain was literally begging us to NK him by claiming he knew our PRs. Now Fox is doing it to because bozo pissed him off.

So brain is explicitly asking to not be lynched. You are explicitly stating that brain was begging to be lynched (assuming you meant lynched instead of NK). I used the word "literally" because you did, and when I used it, I was actually correct about what brain said. Nowhere did I imply that I believe brain's claim. Nowhere am I advocating that anyone reveal any PRs at all. Please feel free to point out where you think I'm doing either of those things.

[worcej]

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

[BunnyGo]

Most recently, because your reaction to this post was to insinuate that I want our PRs to be revealed. What about my post could possibly lead you to believe that? What possible town motivation could you have for trying to deflect this onto me in a way that makes so little sense?

You said “Brain was literally asking us not to lynch him so he could reveal our PRs”. It’s that STUPID literal reading you’re making that leads me to believe you either WANT our PRs doxxed, or seem only capable of thinking surface level. I know the second isn’t true. So for some reason you decided to attack me for suggesting we should consider lynching somebody promising to dox PRs.

Brain said this:

if you spare my life I will reveal the PR this night phase. before all. to discuss

You said this:

It’s interesting that Brain was literally begging us to NK him by claiming he knew our PRs. Now Fox is doing it to because bozo pissed him off.

So brain is explicitly asking to not be lynched. You are explicitly stating that brain was begging to be lynched (assuming you meant lynched instead of NK). I used the word "literally" because you did, and when I used it, I was actually correct about what brain said. Nowhere did I imply that I believe brain's claim. Nowhere am I advocating that anyone reveal any PRs at all. Please feel free to point out where you think I'm doing either of those things.

Congratulations on being a pedant about people using the word “literally” to me “figuratively”. Are we done with this rabbit hole now?

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE BUNNYGO

[Jamiet99uk]

Stop interacting with Sarah you are scum if you do that.

And if you missed this - Jamie was digging @ BB here.

Wait so through that whole conversation, did he not care if @BB thought he was a scum, or was he actually slyly admitting it hoping everyone would let it go

Hi Sarah,

I usually care very little about Brainbomb scumreading me, because Brainbomb has declared me to be his top scumread, at some point during the game, in every game we have ever been in together. I *respond* to Brainbomb scumreading me, and it sometimes *annoys* me, but I don't take it particularly seriously because he does it. Every. Bloody. Time.

You will learn to understand, and perhaps eventually tolerate, what Brainbomb is like, if you're here long enough. Oh, the joy.

[Jamiet99uk]

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

Worcej, in what way do you observe EMC acting "different" from his established behaviour, so far?

[SarahK24]

And if you missed this - Jamie was digging @ BB here.

Wait so through that whole conversation, did he not care if @BB thought he was a scum, or was he actually slyly admitting it hoping everyone would let it go

Hi Sarah,

I usually care very little about Brainbomb scumreading me, because Brainbomb has declared me to be his top scumread, at some point during the game, in every game we have ever been in together. I *respond* to Brainbomb scumreading me, and it sometimes *annoys* me, but I don't take it particularly seriously because he does it. Every. Bloody. Time.

You will learn to understand, and perhaps eventually tolerate, what Brainbomb is like, if you're here long enough. Oh, the joy.

How often is he right though

[kgray]

Really kgray?! You want our PRs to be doxed at night? Please tell me more.

Okay this is exactly what I'm talking about. There is no way you actually believe either that brain does know the PRs and would out them, or that this is something I'd want.

Ok. So...we agree that it’s stupid to take people’s literal words at face value.

Now, why is he saying it? He was more subtle than Fox and bo_ with their none sense claims.

I think his motivation might have been to blow off the people claiming he was scum hunting and make them feel like moving on. Why didn’t they jump all over him the way they did Fox? I don’t get it.

Do you mean brain was trying to blow off the people claiming he was PR hunting? If so, then yeah, I think that's possible. He could be doing that as either alignment though.

I don't know why people jumped on Fox over brain. Possibly because brain didn't explicitly claim to be scum, but you should ask those people who voted for Fox.

[Jamiet99uk]

Wait so through that whole conversation, did he not care if @BB thought he was a scum, or was he actually slyly admitting it hoping everyone would let it go

Hi Sarah,

I usually care very little about Brainbomb scumreading me, because Brainbomb has declared me to be his top scumread, at some point during the game, in every game we have ever been in together. I *respond* to Brainbomb scumreading me, and it sometimes *annoys* me, but I don't take it particularly seriously because he does it. Every. Bloody. Time.

You will learn to understand, and perhaps eventually tolerate, what Brainbomb is like, if you're here long enough. Oh, the joy.

How often is he right though

This question does not make sense. Please re-read what I said.

[worcej]

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

Worcej, in what way do you observe EMC acting "different" from his established behaviour, so far?

The early post frequency, but I thought this was NAI. He is still a part of the different group.

[Jamiet99uk]

Actually I guess there is a possible answer to that question, Sarah, sorry.

I think I have been scum in about 25% of my games, roughly.

Brainbomb and I have been in a lot of games together.

Therefore Brainbomb will have correctly scum-read me about 25% of the time, and incorrectly about 75% of the time, very roughly.

Please note, however, it is relatively rare for him to consistently town-read or scum-read someone for an entire game. He changes his mind a lot.

[Jamiet99uk]

Note: That 25% includes multi-ball games with multiple "not town" teams like the alien cultists and stuff like that.

[e.m.c^42]

That was a lot of posts. Remind me to elaborate after I return from eating, but compared to usual damo is more blithe, worcej less of everything in general, Bungo is channeling Jamie, why are people taking brain's shitposting seriously.

Sarah appears to be a painful combination of Flavius and firstgame!EMC, but much, much less verbose. Quite possible she's smarter than that and playing off "idk lol" as a persona, but also as likely that it is true, wouldn't know as there aren't even really diplomacy games to go through lol.

Regardless of Bo retcon or not retcon, /shrugs. He's putting in effort which is a bit new for him as town, we shall see if he pops in before EOD or not.

[Jamiet99uk]

EMC, before you eat, you are the only person who has not voted.

Are you going to vote?

[e.m.c^42]

why are people taking brain's shitposting seriously.

In same vein, why are people (you know who you are) taking FoxC's shitposting seriously

[e.m.c^42]

EMC, before you eat, you are the only person who has not voted.

Are you going to vote?

Sure, before EOD, Chaqa would be pissed if he had to modkill me.

[SarahK24]

Actually I guess there is a possible answer to that question, Sarah, sorry.

I think I have been scum in about 25% of my games, roughly.

Brainbomb and I have been in a lot of games together.

Therefore Brainbomb will have correctly scum-read me about 25% of the time, and incorrectly about 75% of the time, very roughly.

Please note, however, it is relatively rare for him to consistently town-read or scum-read someone for an entire game. He changes his mind a lot.

Huh, good to know.......so there is a slight chance u might be scum this time...statistically speaking

[kgray]

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

Sorry, it's not obvious to me. To clarify: you think bozo is different because he didn't do a survey, and scummy because he built his case on bo based on what Sarah did? What do you think about bozo voting for Fox?

[Jamiet99uk]

EMC, before you eat, you are the only person who has not voted.

Are you going to vote?

Sure, before EOD, Chaqa would be pissed if he had to modkill me.

Right so you're back to your strategy of leaving your vote until the last second and avoiding accountability.

Don't you understand why everyone hates this?

Why have you no balls?

[worcej]

My inclination is to stick to voting for people who are being different from an established behavior - which means this excludes kgray and Sarah. I think both are town at this point anyways, so meh.

This drives me to rdr, bozo, emc, and damo as a grouping. Of which, bozo and rdr strike me as the most potential scum. I don't think any traction is going to develope for rdr, because I literally brought it up earlier and got maybe one response from the question, so I'll go with bozo. Reasoning should be obvious if you're reading what I am posting.

##vote bozo

Sorry, it's not obvious to me. To clarify: you think bozo is different because he didn't do a survey, and scummy because he built his case on bo based on what Sarah did? What do you think about bozo voting for Fox?

In order:

1. Yes, the lack of a dumb survey is abnormal from bozo. Additionally, his focus on a new player is not normal to me - 19 of his 54 posts are directed at her by my count. I'd expect more of this from an established player because he could get someone to crack, but it just seems too contrived/forced. To then transition it to saying Bo needs to be flipped to confirm her is a weird stretch. As you may know, I hate the team pairs logic, especially this early in the game, and it is weak reasoning to push a lynch.
2. I think bozo is voting with little reason and is being opportunistic, which strikes me as being easy to do as scum. Scum don't want to stick their ass out so that it gets burned - they are cautious.