M1010 Mini-Mafia

[kgray]

@worcej, you seem to have your head screwed on mostly straight. Which Fox voter seems most opportunistic? Do you think a scum would risk jumping on such a towny wagon? Is kgray simultaneously buddying me and pushing my wagon? Does bo_sox usually have that much sand in his orifices? How do you read the noob?

Are you saying Fox's wagon is towny? What changed from this quote:

I strongly dislike every vote on Fox. I dislike the stated reasons. I dislike the unstated reasons. I dislike the voters. The whole wagon stinks.

[rdrivera2005]

I was a relatively high poster last game too when he called me lazy!xorxes, so that doesn't necessarily mean town, but yes, he is just making noise now.

Maybe, but D1 last game you posted 29 times. You're at 3x that so far. I don't think that posting a lot is the same as not being lazy, but it's pretty different from last game.

I'm much more obvtown than last game, but most people were townreading me on D1 last game anyway. I'm usually mostly townread D1 whatever my alignment, it is later that I start getting scumreads (unless it's from rivera or some other selected individuals).

I only scumread you when you do scummy things. Last game I was townreading you D1, but there is no way town Xorxes will hammer Vecna that way so I was convinced you were scum (and I was right but failed miserably to push my read).

[bo_sox48]

I'm not quitting and never was. I specifically informed Chaqa privately not to replace me. I'll go back and read that sequence again later on and bring forward something to say about it, but not tonight. It's good to see that a number of people are strongly opposed to people quitting. Thanks for the encouragement and/or slaps in the face lol.

It's a bit weird that multiple people have followed me onto Foxcastle, especially those who have done so under the assumption that I'm bussing. I didn't even have a reason for voting Foxcastle beyond a gut feeling that he might be playing with something up his sleeve. I wouldn't be shocked if he got piled on by his teammates, but unless Sarah is the greatest noob who has ever played, I don't think she piled onto her scum mate (or think that she's scum at all, for that matter). To that end, I think it's possible that any of bozo, Jamie, or brainbomb are piling on him, and it would make a strange bit of sense for someone to endhammer on their teammate if they think he's up for a lynch. I'm curious to see which of Jamie and brainbomb change their vote later, why, and whether or not they stick to their guns and nonchalantly try and hammer day 1.

Bozo, could you please explain your "case" on me in more detail, and perhaps explicate on whether you feel that that case stands up against any sort of scrutiny at all? The fact that I am willing to bus someone with my first vote (and, assuming that you're not lying, have done so twice with my first vote out of the last five games I was scum) doesn't mean much of anything. The fact that I'm posting more on day 1 than you apparently have come to expect doesn't mean much of anything. I can tell that you really think you're onto me with the amount of effort you're putting into researching, but I am also rather suspicious that you're tunneling on me, perhaps strategically to try and get me flipped early on and save your team a nightkill. To that end, if you're going to make a case on me, make it one with substance as opposed to one that you've clearly put way too much time but not enough thought into please.

Brainbomb has struck me as noncommittal this game, which is weird because usually brainbomb overcommits. I'm not building a case on D1 as there's no point in doing that, but I am voting for him and I'll probably stay there if there is any traction at all.

I'm around for an hour. Hit me.

##VOTE brainbomb

[bo_sox48]

To expand a bit on brainbomb, here are two other things I've noticed:

• When brainbomb asked if we would all be willing to be the vengeful's kill, he answered yes. This was to gain towncred regardless of his alignment. My answer, and everyone's answer, should be a confident and loud no. I do not recall a scenario in which brainbomb cared about towncred in the past as either alignment.

• Brainbomb is playing extremely loosely, which on its own is obviously NAI. However, brainbomb has said a million and one times that he really enjoys playing as scum. My memory is bad, mostly because if you read more than a third of what brainbomb says you'll go insane, but I don't remember him playing quite this loosely as town on day 1 in the past. I think he's having a lot of fun being snarky, coy, and happy-go-lucky, but as a result he as not taken the time to invest himself in trying to solve the game. Instead, he's spent pages joking about things like PR hunting rather than trying things that might elicit reactions or gain information.

Make of it what you will.

[kgray]

It's a bit weird that multiple people have followed me onto Foxcastle, especially those who have done so under the assumption that I'm bussing.

The only person who claimed to vote for Fox because you could be bussing was bozo, I think. Both Jamie and brain said they're voting for Fox because he claimed he was scum. What do you think about Fox claiming to be scum?

[bo_sox48]

I could not care any less if someone sarcastically claims to be scum.

[brainbomb]

you needed so much less filler speech to try a d1 lynch on me last game bo.

save your breath
no ones gonna demand you explain why bb is your vote. they didnt ask you even once last game when you tried to lynch a cop

[brainbomb]

I dont take issue with your case on me. wasnt aware that id played loose so far

[SarahK24]

Is Foxcastle drunk?

No, but he is town and I think everyone is ridiculous for thinking he is scum.

Can u tell me why you think its ridiculous to think he is a scum?
I'm just wondering why...

[bo_sox48]

you needed so much less filler speech to try a d1 lynch on me last game bo.

save your breath
no ones gonna demand you explain why bb is your vote. they didnt ask you even once last game when you tried to lynch a cop

I anchored on you last game. There was no substance to that vote lol, read the god thread

[bozotheclown]

I'm not quitting and never was. I specifically informed Chaqa privately not to replace me. I'll go back and read that sequence again later on and bring forward something to say about it, but not tonight. It's good to see that a number of people are strongly opposed to people quitting. Thanks for the encouragement and/or slaps in the face lol.

It's a bit weird that multiple people have followed me onto Foxcastle, especially those who have done so under the assumption that I'm bussing. I didn't even have a reason for voting Foxcastle beyond a gut feeling that he might be playing with something up his sleeve. I wouldn't be shocked if he got piled on by his teammates, but unless Sarah is the greatest noob who has ever played, I don't think she piled onto her scum mate (or think that she's scum at all, for that matter). To that end, I think it's possible that any of bozo, Jamie, or brainbomb are piling on him, and it would make a strange bit of sense for someone to endhammer on their teammate if they think he's up for a lynch. I'm curious to see which of Jamie and brainbomb change their vote later, why, and whether or not they stick to their guns and nonchalantly try and hammer day 1.

Bozo, could you please explain your "case" on me in more detail, and perhaps explicate on whether you feel that that case stands up against any sort of scrutiny at all? The fact that I am willing to bus someone with my first vote (and, assuming that you're not lying, have done so twice with my first vote out of the last five games I was scum) doesn't mean much of anything. The fact that I'm posting more on day 1 than you apparently have come to expect doesn't mean much of anything. I can tell that you really think you're onto me with the amount of effort you're putting into researching, but I am also rather suspicious that you're tunneling on me, perhaps strategically to try and get me flipped early on and save your team a nightkill. To that end, if you're going to make a case on me, make it one with substance as opposed to one that you've clearly put way too much time but not enough thought into please.

Brainbomb has struck me as noncommittal this game, which is weird because usually brainbomb overcommits. I'm not building a case on D1 as there's no point in doing that, but I am voting for him and I'll probably stay there if there is any traction at all.

I'm around for an hour. Hit me.

##VOTE brainbomb

I will explain my "case", if you want to call it that.

Within the first hour of the game, there was a period of time when you, BunnyGo, and kgray were posting live and interacting, and that interaction seems a little unnatural to me, so I said the three of you could be the scum team. Also, your participation in this interaction seemed unusual for you, since lately it seems you have not been participating much D1. A quick check showed you have had a tendency to participate more D1 when you are scum. I did not looks at all games, but I have gone back and looked at this more closely, and came up with this list of your D1 post counts:

recent bo_sox games as mafia:
M47: 48
M1004: 42
M36: sub, 25 (D3)
M34: 4
M33: 97

recent bo_sox games as town:
M54: 13
M51: sub, 9 (D2)
M50: 27 (shot in the middle of D1)
M45: 2
M44: 22
M40: 18
M1003: 31
M35: 22
M32: 14

Later you voted for Foxcastle when I happened to be online, and 3 minutes later, SK24 voted for Foxcastle. Neither of you gave a reason, so I asked SK24 if she was influenced by your vote, and she said she was not. SK24 is new, and she says she is inexperience, which I have no reason to doubt, so it is possible she made a mistake and voted for Foxcastle because you did, since, if she is scum, she would not have had the chance to talk to her teammates yet. I could have voted for you, or SK24, but those would be single vote wagons. So, instead, I voted for Foxcastle, pointing out that you "often" bus a scum partner with your first vote as scum, because I knew you had done it before. I later guessed "often" may be about 50% of the time, and looking up past games, you have done it 2/5 of your last scum games (2/4 of the scum games that you played D1). After that, Foxcastle reacted in a way that I am at a loss to explain.

[bozotheclown]

##Vote

What were you trying to do when you posted this?

[bozotheclown]

I'm going with town for emc and bo_sox just because they are actually playing D1.

I was going to say Bunny is scum with kgray and we only need to find the last one, but maybe I'm being too hasty.

I was going to say that BunnyGo, kgray, and bo_sox could be the scum team from what I have read so far.

Tough first post right out of the bat. Last time you had a stated reason for scum reading me. You kept bringing it up. What's your reason at this point for scum reading any of us?

That was after reading the first 1.5 hours of the game, so obviously it was your interaction in the first 1.5 hours of the game.

[bozotheclown]

The way Bozo has handled this has been obscenely opportunistic and so poorly thought out that it's hard to believe it comes from him. Fortunately for him, I don't scumread him for it.

Also, I know he's town, so... That makes it easier.

If you think I was being "opportunistic", yet you think I am town, what do you think I was taking to opportunity to do? Did you consider that I was interested in seeing what bo_sox and SK24 would do if I joined them on your wagon?

[bozotheclown]

At this point, I am willing to lynch Foxcastle, bo_sox, or BunnyGo.

[SarahK24]

##Vote

What were you trying to do when you posted this?

I messed up when I was typing the command, forgot to put a name...just a on honest mistake,

[bozotheclown]

##Vote

What were you trying to do when you posted this?

I messed up when I was typing the command, forgot to put a name...just a on honest mistake,

What name were you planning?

[SarahK24]

What were you trying to do when you posted this?

I messed up when I was typing the command, forgot to put a name...just a on honest mistake,

What name were you planning?

Foxcastle..... ik I'm dumb

[bozotheclown]

I messed up when I was typing the command, forgot to put a name...just a on honest mistake,

What name were you planning?

Foxcastle..... ik I'm dumb

So you were planning on voting for Foxcastle 2 hours earlier than you did?

[SarahK24]

I didn't know what I was doing so I thought I would leave and rethink or something for a while and forgot.... an honest sincere apology here