M1010 Mini-Mafia

[Foxcastle]

Noted - we'll sort out said protest at a later date.

What do you think there is to sort out?

I am trying not to get into a worthless argument with you that will lead me to scum read you almost immediately based on your responses. Everything else you've done so far is townie and I wanna keep you there instead of WIFOM'ing away.

That's all good. I don't even think there's anything on this particular thing to come back to, even.

[xorxes]

This is the first non joke post I read in this thread.

You discounted everything I wrote as jokey? Or did you read none of them?

This entire thread. I thought it was all tongue-in-cheek needling, as xorx made a joke about rivera and he responded in kind (i.e. "the first non joke post" to describe a joking comment). Bunny then jumps in as a "faux-hurt, you didn't notice me?" kind of thing, just to continue the banter - especially as he's been trying so much to appear serious with banter that is not specific to this particular game.

I read everything, took me some time to start posting because I need to catch up.

Just liked Xorxes post about always scumreading me independently of our alignments. And I discounted your posts.

But then rivera replies with this again, and it makes me unsure of whether he was actually being serious all along. Could be a continuation of subtle sarcasm but it does not appear so. If he is not then I would have questions.

See why I say that emc is perceptive.

[brainbomb]

if town decides to keep a joke phase going 20 pages
scum has to decide to get too serious or join the joking

if town gets ultra serious early scum has to either blend in by looking serious in a muted way or lurk like crazy to let ultra serious cannibalization grab hold

if town lurks then scum can lurk and its a quiet game with low energy which favors scum

if town all has their own ego and arrogant ideas about accuracy
scum can just latch onto the dumbest blockheads and kill anyone smart
(this is webdip)

[xorxes]

There's also been excessive amount of sarcasm compared to normal, from page 11-20 ish. However some appear to be taking it seriously so I don't know anymore.

Would it be worth anything to anyone should I pull it up?

All observations are worth noting.

I first read that with an extra h.

[brainbomb]

Ok, Brain. How do you approach and think about this game?

posted this on a diff mafia forum 2 days ago in a thread called how to play as town

talk to everyone
talk about everyone
sort sincerely
think proactively
question abnormality
seek out the inexplicable
maintain healthy skepticism
avoid overdosed paranoia
be memorable
have fun
be innovative
be harmonious

You are almost ready to write a self-help book.

whats wrong with these philosophies of townplay

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote

Hi Sarah,

You have to actually name the person you are voting for.

Here, try typing "##Vote Brainbomb".

That's how it works.

[xorxes]

posted this on a diff mafia forum 2 days ago in a thread called how to play as town

talk to everyone
talk about everyone
sort sincerely
think proactively
question abnormality
seek out the inexplicable
maintain healthy skepticism
avoid overdosed paranoia
be memorable
have fun
be innovative
be harmonious

You are almost ready to write a self-help book.

whats wrong with these philosophies of townplay

Nothing wrong with them, just like self-help books.

[brainbomb]

the whole valiant routine of trying to defend PR from unscrupulous villains is played out on here too. Its why I stopped faking being PR ages ago. granted I staryed randing PR all the time but when you see the game from a position of responsibility you have an opportunity to hide, to lead or to follow.

as town cop I identified multiple scum day 1, and that wasnt why I got maf nkd. xorxes decided I was obvious PR. but in addition to being obvious, having never been cop, I also had decent reads.

other than temasek.

What are you gonna do in a game where town wins as auto by day 3 if scum hasnt hit a pr

try to get killed. or try to lynch scum.

have fun.

let the dick measuring begin

[Jamiet99uk]

What are you gonna do in a game where town wins as auto by day 3 if scum hasnt hit a pr

You say this as if the setup is horribly imbalanced but really it's a mini-game and they rarely go beyond four days and nights...

[e.m.c^42]

I try to answer questions asked to me.

Are you scum?

Nope. But I view your question as similarly useless.

This later half of this thread. The quote function only shows up to three so I suggest the clicking the arrows for full context.

It starts off as genuine misunderstanding on rivera's part, I believe, but then Bungo seemingly taunts him about it? As rivera continues to ask, Bungo answers in increasingly snarky, "duh, this is obvious" responses, and doesn't really add more to it.

This game, a bit more than usual Damo is being sarcastic (more on this later), or at least jocular for him and quips in with that "Are you scum?" question, and it appears that Bungo took it in earnest, contrasted with the mildly teasing undertones he has previously.

So the question is, was the exchange just serious all from Bungo's responses, and I am adding in ambiance that is not there, or was there actually a tone switch/misread of the banter from Damo.

[brainbomb]

What are you gonna do in a game where town wins as auto by day 3 if scum hasnt hit a pr

You say this as if the setup is horribly imbalanced but really it's a mini-game and they rarely go beyond four days and nights...

the vts should be most excited to do their part. was my point

[rdrivera2005]

most people on here play town and hope they get lucky and hit scum.

thats what theyve decided is their style of play. so you either have to be so eximpliry and accurate that other town follow you, or you just have to watch and hope theres a shred of intellect in 1 towny who eats the nk because their reads rock.

of course then the town usually ignores nk analysis too.

so basically we gotta hope someone very eloquent takes the reigns. last game it never happened

The problem is people are waiting for someone to take the reigns instead of actively trying to paint a case.

Here is one for you: I find it odd that rdr has indicated he has read the thread, dismissed all the content up until a xorxes comment about himself, and then went into Bunny and most posts on others were related to Bunny. Almost all of his posts are continued questions, similar to what kgray did last game.

This strikes me as more unusual than anything else. Do others agree?

Why is it unusual?

Also, did you understood the context of my exchange with Xorxes?

[bo_sox48]

It is the nature of the interaction, and because bo_sox making any kind of effort earlier typically means he is scum. I would expect scum to do what they think town would not expect them to do as scum.

Goodness why do you think I'm that smart

I did some research, and your D1 post count has only been high when you are scum. Based on your participation in the first hour of the game, I anticipated a high D1 post count.

There may be a trend there. I'm too lazy to validate your assumption, but from memory I imagine you're onto something. In that case, I'm going to be a bit more active the rest of this phase to break that trend so that next time I'm scum you won't get to use that against me. Much appreciated.

[BunnyGo]

the whole valiant routine of trying to defend PR from unscrupulous villains is played out on here too. Its why I stopped faking being PR ages ago. granted I staryed randing PR all the time but when you see the game from a position of responsibility you have an opportunity to hide, to lead or to follow.

as town cop I identified multiple scum day 1, and that wasnt why I got maf nkd. xorxes decided I was obvious PR. but in addition to being obvious, having never been cop, I also had decent reads.

other than temasek.

What are you gonna do in a game where town wins as auto by day 3 if scum hasnt hit a pr

try to get killed. or try to lynch scum.

have fun.

let the dick measuring begin

So you weren’t specifically claiming Vengeful before?

[xorxes]

Do you really not remember, or are you choosing to not remember as a scum ploy?

I think it was Chaqa, but there's always the chance I'm misremembering, so I have to add the obligatory hedge.

And then I realize why you were asking.

Maybe it was you, this is from M39:

Why is brainbomb before bozotheclown in the alphabetical player list? This must mean something, I'm just not sure what yet.

Yeah, that's not what I was thinking of. Someone kept asking the GMs to provide an alphabetical an list, and I think it was Chaqa.

[worcej]

There's also been excessive amount of sarcasm compared to normal, from page 11-20 ish. However some appear to be taking it seriously so I don't know anymore.

Would it be worth anything to anyone should I pull it up?

All observations are worth noting.

I first read that with an extra h.

That is probably something I would say if I was being sarcastic

[brainbomb]

the whole valiant routine of trying to defend PR from unscrupulous villains is played out on here too. Its why I stopped faking being PR ages ago. granted I staryed randing PR all the time but when you see the game from a position of responsibility you have an opportunity to hide, to lead or to follow.

as town cop I identified multiple scum day 1, and that wasnt why I got maf nkd. xorxes decided I was obvious PR. but in addition to being obvious, having never been cop, I also had decent reads.

other than temasek.

What are you gonna do in a game where town wins as auto by day 3 if scum hasnt hit a pr

try to get killed. or try to lynch scum.

have fun.

let the dick measuring begin

So you weren’t specifically claiming Vengeful before?

I dont see a reason to answer this

[xorxes]

bozo is town actually. hes only annoying when hes town

Depends on what you define annoying.

inexplicably idiotic surveys or horrible reads that sound confident

bozo towntells

His read of Bunny last game was pretty much on point but nobody followed him.

[e.m.c^42]

There is some more but the majority of it can sum up to, I do not know how to read Bungo correctly. He swings from joking to serious and back to more jokes, while claiming all the time he's been serious - if not outright said but at least with how he has been posting. It is also not so clear whether this taunting is intentional or not.

For example, most obvious ones

When bozo and I are on the same page, it can mean one of three things: we're both town and correct, one of us is scum buddying the other like crazy, or we're both scum like last game.

You sound like damo.

This is a great post.

Nope. I actually think vengeful is a shite character. It’s only useful in lylo or something to give 2 shots at getting scum (say in a CC situation). Otherwise probably best to hold the shot. Why gamble the game on your personal read? You’re not better than everyone.

Stop evading the actual question you are being asked Bunny.

Why I picked “yes” specifically? It’s what BB picked, and I was just choosing anything. Like your question it’s all meaningless, if I’d answered you that I was scum, would that have meant anything?

If it was purposefully being snide, then it has very different implications than if it was not. Despite Jamie's usual thing about taking jokes seriously (which I feel is more for the sake of keeping up his persona then actually not getting things at this point, hah), it either validates or invalidates his post here:

BunnyGo's initial response to Brainbomb's little Vengeful poll, his evasiveness when questioned about it, and then his U-turn and back-tracking, look pretty scummy to me.

[BunnyGo]

Depends on what you define annoying.

inexplicably idiotic surveys or horrible reads that sound confident

bozo towntells

His read of Bunny last game was pretty much on point but nobody followed him.

Yup.