M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[xorxes]

@Xorxes,

The Flum flip should be helpful for you, right? That should give you a chance to revisit your reads?

Looking forward to what you come up with.

Yes indeed.

[kgray]

Cool, I also believe TvT is least likely. Can you please explain why you scumread me so much more than damo? I'd like to know why you were so confident that I'm scum over damo that you tried to avoid a tie in mylo by calling for Bunny to vote for me.

xorxes do you not want to answer this for some reason?

I thought damo was town and by POE you were very likely scum. I thought Flum was bussing you because he had been scumreading you for quite a while but was very reluctant to vote for you until the end. I will review my POE in light of Flum's flip.

Can you at least give some reasons for why you thought damo was town? I'm really trying to understand your case but you're not giving me much to work with.

You tried to convince Bunny to vote for me. If he had done so, scum would have won. So if I'm to believe you're town, I have to believe you had a good reason to not only vote for me over damo but to also try to convince Bunny to vote for me.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE kgray

I will be back later.

[Balki Bartokomous]

##VOTE kgray

I will be back later.

Hoping that you’re going to go do a re-read with all this new info.

[xorxes]

xorxes do you not want to answer this for some reason?

I thought damo was town and by POE you were very likely scum. I thought Flum was bussing you because he had been scumreading you for quite a while but was very reluctant to vote for you until the end. I will review my POE in light of Flum's flip.

Can you at least give some reasons for why you thought damo was town? I'm really trying to understand your case but you're not giving me much to work with.

You tried to convince Bunny to vote for me. If he had done so, scum would have won. So if I'm to believe you're town, I have to believe you had a good reason to not only vote for me over damo but to also try to convince Bunny to vote for me.

One of the first signs was when he softed PR. I don't think scum!damo does that sort of thing that calls attention to himself. And generally he has played very relaxed, which is quite unlike how scum!damo plays. I can usually tell when damo is town and this game I never thought he was not. I don't really know how you play so I can't make the same kind of judgement about you. I am still rereading both of you before I make up my mind.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I thought damo was town and by POE you were very likely scum. I thought Flum was bussing you because he had been scumreading you for quite a while but was very reluctant to vote for you until the end. I will review my POE in light of Flum's flip.

Can you at least give some reasons for why you thought damo was town? I'm really trying to understand your case but you're not giving me much to work with.

You tried to convince Bunny to vote for me. If he had done so, scum would have won. So if I'm to believe you're town, I have to believe you had a good reason to not only vote for me over damo but to also try to convince Bunny to vote for me.

One of the first signs was when he softed PR. I don't think scum!damo does that sort of thing that calls attention to himself. And generally he has played very relaxed, which is quite unlike how scum!damo plays. I can usually tell when damo is town and this game I never thought he was not. I don't really know how you play so I can't make the same kind of judgement about you. I am still rereading both of you before I make up my mind.

@Xorx, you seem to be assuming that you’re going to vote for Damo or kgray today. Is that true? If so, why?

[xorxes]

Can you at least give some reasons for why you thought damo was town? I'm really trying to understand your case but you're not giving me much to work with.

You tried to convince Bunny to vote for me. If he had done so, scum would have won. So if I'm to believe you're town, I have to believe you had a good reason to not only vote for me over damo but to also try to convince Bunny to vote for me.

One of the first signs was when he softed PR. I don't think scum!damo does that sort of thing that calls attention to himself. And generally he has played very relaxed, which is quite unlike how scum!damo plays. I can usually tell when damo is town and this game I never thought he was not. I don't really know how you play so I can't make the same kind of judgement about you. I am still rereading both of you before I make up my mind.

@Xorx, you seem to be assuming that you’re going to vote for Damo or kgray today. Is that true? If so, why?

Because at least one of them is most likely scum. Do you have a better suggestion?

[Balki Bartokomous]

One of the first signs was when he softed PR. I don't think scum!damo does that sort of thing that calls attention to himself. And generally he has played very relaxed, which is quite unlike how scum!damo plays. I can usually tell when damo is town and this game I never thought he was not. I don't really know how you play so I can't make the same kind of judgement about you. I am still rereading both of you before I make up my mind.

@Xorx, you seem to be assuming that you’re going to vote for Damo or kgray today. Is that true? If so, why?

Because at least one of them is most likely scum. Do you have a better suggestion?

Yeah, I do.

If you’re Town, you know a lot more than you knew a few hours ago. And you know a ton more than you knew 48 hours ago.

Go read the game and solve it.

[xorxes]

@Xorx, you seem to be assuming that you’re going to vote for Damo or kgray today. Is that true? If so, why?

Because at least one of them is most likely scum. Do you have a better suggestion?

Yeah, I do.

If you’re Town, you know a lot more than you knew a few hours ago. And you know a ton more than you knew 48 hours ago.

Go read the game and solve it.

That's clever, I see what you're doing there. But that's not what I was asking. I meant whether you had a better suggestion of who to vote for.

[kgray]

I'm not going to keep harping on this, but my point about xorxes not having a "good" reason for scumreading me is not about who he decides to vote for today. My point is that he went out of his way to avoid a tie and get me lynched in mylo without a "good" reason to think I'm scum. Even if you don't know that I'm town, that's got to raise some red flags.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Because at least one of them is most likely scum. Do you have a better suggestion?

Yeah, I do.

If you’re Town, you know a lot more than you knew a few hours ago. And you know a ton more than you knew 48 hours ago.

Go read the game and solve it.

That's clever, I see what you're doing there. But that's not what I was asking. I meant whether you had a better suggestion of who to vote for.

I am going to try to spend some time on this tonight. So, if you are taking your cues from me, please give me until tomorrow.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm not going to keep harping on this, but my point about xorxes not having a "good" reason for scumreading me is not about who he decides to vote for today. My point is that he went out of his way to avoid a tie and get me lynched in mylo without a "good" reason to think I'm scum. Even if you don't know that I'm town, that's got to raise some red flags.

Who do you think the full scum team is?

[xorxes]

I'm not going to keep harping on this, but my point about xorxes not having a "good" reason for scumreading me is not about who he decides to vote for today. My point is that he went out of his way to avoid a tie and get me lynched in mylo without a "good" reason to think I'm scum. Even if you don't know that I'm town, that's got to raise some red flags.

I had as good a reason as you can have in this game. I thought damo and Jamiet were much more likely town than you, and I thought it very likely that at least one of you three was scum. So by POE it had to be you. I was also townreading bozo and Bunny, which didn't leave a lot of other options. I didn't think anything you did was specifically scummy, but sometimes POE works better than finding something directly scummy.

[xorxes]

Yeah, I do.

If you’re Town, you know a lot more than you knew a few hours ago. And you know a ton more than you knew 48 hours ago.

Go read the game and solve it.

That's clever, I see what you're doing there. But that's not what I was asking. I meant whether you had a better suggestion of who to vote for.

I am going to try to spend some time on this tonight. So, if you are taking your cues from me, please give me until tomorrow.

I'm not taking cues from anyone, but I definitely want to know your opinion.

[kgray]

I'm not going to keep harping on this, but my point about xorxes not having a "good" reason for scumreading me is not about who he decides to vote for today. My point is that he went out of his way to avoid a tie and get me lynched in mylo without a "good" reason to think I'm scum. Even if you don't know that I'm town, that's got to raise some red flags.

Who do you think the full scum team is?

My best guess right now is damo, xorxes and maybe Bunny as PZ because of how blatantly xorxes was telling him to move his vote.

But I'm confused by Flum being the NK and need to reread and rethink.

Who do you think the scum team is?

[bozotheclown]

OK, just finished rereading my own previous rereads on damo. I don't know how I forgot all that. Fine kgray, hat tip to you if you're scum. ##vote Damo

What exactly were you referring to when you said you "forgot all that"?

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE kgray

I will be back later.

Hoping that you’re going to go do a re-read with all this new info.

Why do you think I have not already considered all of the new information? Are you implying that there is new information that should lead me to believe kgray is town?

[Balki Bartokomous]

##VOTE kgray

I will be back later.

Hoping that you’re going to go do a re-read with all this new info.

Why do you think I have not already considered all of the new information? Are you implying that there is new information that should lead me to believe kgray is town?

Well, I don’t really know.

But I know this: if you are Town, like me:

(1) I need you to vote with me or else we lose; and
(2) The Flum flip and the tied wagons yesterday are huge clues. I myself have not gone back to mine it all for information. But it is really important that all townies bring fresh eyes to the game and re-read. Don’t fall into co formation bias. Do the work.

We need every Townie to vote right today.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I'm not going to keep harping on this, but my point about xorxes not having a "good" reason for scumreading me is not about who he decides to vote for today. My point is that he went out of his way to avoid a tie and get me lynched in mylo without a "good" reason to think I'm scum. Even if you don't know that I'm town, that's got to raise some red flags.

Who do you think the full scum team is?

My best guess right now is damo, xorxes and maybe Bunny as PZ because of how blatantly xorxes was telling him to move his vote.

But I'm confused by Flum being the NK and need to reread and rethink.

Who do you think the scum team is?

I’ll try to answer this tomorrow.

You are coming across as very Town to me.

[damo666]

I am pretty sure that Scum!Balki could have lynched Flum yesterday for the win, right?

What?