M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[kgray]

@Damo, if you are Town, because of the ridiculous hammer rules here, Scum could win right now.

Does ending need 4 or 5?

never mind

[damo666]

Got carried away.

kgray and Balki defo scum

third man Jamie > Bunny>>>>> Xorxes >>>>>>>Bozo

Wait a minute. Moments ago you said if Kgray flipped scum then either Balki OR myself must be scum.

Now you are saying you think we both are.

You are changing your story pretty fast, Damo.

I am using scum as nonPZ scum

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Damo, you have to unend if you are Town.

[kgray]

omg damo please unend. If there is any chance at all that you're town...

[kgray]

##vote damo

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Damo, let’s say it’s a Balki/Jamiet/Kgray team, we could hammer you right now and win the game.

UNEND now or it’s a scum claim.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Damo, you must UNEND now.

Somebody who Damo trusts, tell him to UNEND now.

[damo666]

Everyone slow down.

No End Votes. If you are Town voting end, you give scum a chance to win the game. We just got a ton of info. Let’s use it.

NO END VOTES

## unend

[damo666]

@Damo,

Take a deep breath and explain why you think I am scum.

Taking a break

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Damo,

Take a deep breath and explain why you think I am scum.

Taking a break

Cool.

If I were scum, my team could have hammered you, friend.

[xorxes]

The bot does not recognize the end vote with a space, not sure whether the GM will take it or not. damo, was that on purpose?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Damo,

Take a deep breath and explain why you think I am scum.

Taking a break

Cool.

If I were scum, my team could have hammered you, friend.

I think Damo basically has to be scum, but I need to re-read the day yesterday in particular with an open mind.

Flum flipping is actually great from my point of view. I was really doubting my read on him and this should be very useful.

Everyone needs to wash away their reads again and start new. This is extremely useful info.

[kgray]

@Damo,

Take a deep breath and explain why you think I am scum.

Taking a break

Cool.

If I were scum, my team could have hammered you, friend.

Well, assuming your team was me and Jamie, and that whichever was PZ knew at least one of the other two or damo's alignment.

[Jamiet99uk]

Balki, Kgray, and myself were all clearly online at the same time there, for a period of 20 minutes or more, while Damo had an "end" vote up.

That was ample opportunity for the three of us, if we were scum together, to hammer the day together and end the game.

Anyone who is town, and thinks all three of Balki, Jamie, Kgray are scum, needs to consider why on earth we wouldn't have just done that.

[Jamiet99uk]

Taking a break

Cool.

If I were scum, my team could have hammered you, friend.

I think Damo basically has to be scum, but I need to re-read the day yesterday in particular with an open mind.

Flum flipping is actually great from my point of view. I was really doubting my read on him and this should be very useful.

Everyone needs to wash away their reads again and start new. This is extremely useful info.

Someone should also post the updated vote lists with Flum in green. I will do that in a while if nobody else has.

[xorxes]

Balki, Kgray, and myself were all clearly online at the same time there, for a period of 20 minutes or more, while Damo had an "end" vote up.

That was ample opportunity for the three of us, if we were scum together, to hammer the day together and end the game.

Anyone who is town, and thinks all three of Balki, Jamie, Kgray are scum, needs to consider why on earth we wouldn't have just done that.

One reason could be you knew or suspected that his vote was invalid. Another reason could be that you would have exposed yourselves if he unended while you were getting your act together.

In any case, nobody should end early today.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Xorxes,

The Flum flip should be helpful for you, right? That should give you a chance to revisit your reads?

Looking forward to what you come up with.

[kgray]

xorxes which of these do you think is more likely? And if you assume either case, what conclusions would you draw?

TvT would only make sense if no scum was there at EOD, but everyone was posting at the end, so everyone was there, so that's the least likely. If you were town and damo scum then bozo would have to be his teammate, and one of Balki/Jamiet/Bunny would have to be PZ.

Cool, I also believe TvT is least likely. Can you please explain why you scumread me so much more than damo? I'd like to know why you were so confident that I'm scum over damo that you tried to avoid a tie in mylo by calling for Bunny to vote for me.

xorxes do you not want to answer this for some reason?

[xorxes]

Day 1

Temasek22 (7) brainbomb kgray Jamiet99uk bozotheclown rdrivera2005 Chaqa damo666
worcej (4) BunnyGo Fluminator Balki Bartokomous Foxcastle
brainbomb (3) Vecna bo_sox48 Temasek22
Foxcastle (1) worcej
Chaqa (1) xorxes
No‑Lynch (1) Pjandy
Fluminator (1) e.m.c^42
Non-votes: Sulit

Day 2

Vecna (8) Balki Bartokomous kgray damo666* Fluminator* Foxcastle* Chaqa* xorxes* Vecna* bozotheclown
Pjandy (2) worcej* rdrivera2005*
bo_sox48 (2) BunnyGo* Jamiet99uk
Non-votes: bo_sox48 e.m.c^42 Pjandy BobMcBob

Day 3

BobMcBob (7) xorxes worcej bozotheclown BunnyGo Balki Bartokomous Fluminator e.m.c^42
e.m.c^42 (6) damo666 rdrivera2005 Jamiet99uk kgray Foxcastle Chaqa
Chaqa (1) BobMcBob

Day 4

e.m.c^42 (8) Jamiet99uk BunnyGo Fluminator damo666 Balki Bartokomous kgray xorxes bozotheclown
xorxes (3) e.m.c^42 Foxcastle rdrivera2005
Chaqa (1) Chaqa

Day 5

rdrivera2005 (4) xorxes Jamiet99uk Fluminator kgray
Foxcastle (3) Balki Bartokomous damo666 rdrivera2005
kgray (3) BunnyGo bozotheclown Foxcastle

Day 6

kgray (4) bozotheclown damo666 Fluminator xorxes
damo666 (4) Balki Bartokomous kgray Jamiet99uk BunnyGo

[xorxes]

TvT would only make sense if no scum was there at EOD, but everyone was posting at the end, so everyone was there, so that's the least likely. If you were town and damo scum then bozo would have to be his teammate, and one of Balki/Jamiet/Bunny would have to be PZ.

Cool, I also believe TvT is least likely. Can you please explain why you scumread me so much more than damo? I'd like to know why you were so confident that I'm scum over damo that you tried to avoid a tie in mylo by calling for Bunny to vote for me.

xorxes do you not want to answer this for some reason?

I thought damo was town and by POE you were very likely scum. I thought Flum was bussing you because he had been scumreading you for quite a while but was very reluctant to vote for you until the end. I will review my POE in light of Flum's flip.