M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[BunnyGo]

lol, looking at the brightside, this was better than voting no lynch in the end.

Definitely, no mislynch plus tons of info

Info good. Ending scummy.

[kgray]

lol, looking at the brightside, this was better than voting no lynch in the end.

no...no it wasn't. That was the scummiest possible end to the day.

Wait, how so?

[Jamiet99uk]

No one has died.

Night has begun

Thank god we're done with Brain's flavor text.

You're no fun. I liked Brainbomb's flavour.

[damo666]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

[bozotheclown]

BunnyGo's vote change to damo looks bad after he was pushing to lynch kgray for 2 days.

[BunnyGo]

lol, looking at the brightside, this was better than voting no lynch in the end.

no...no it wasn't. That was the scummiest possible end to the day.

Wait, how so?

Why didn't scum swap teams? Either:

1) It was S v S
or more likely
2) We had S v T and one of the town needs to change. But hard to know which on.

I guess the plus side, in case 2 it means one wagon was 3 scum 1 town and the other wagon was 4 town.

[BunnyGo]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

And neither scum jumped? What, they don't like winning?

[kgray]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

If any scum were on your wagon they would have switched to mine in the end for the mislynch. I didn't think of PZ, though, I guess you're right one of them could be PZ who doesn't know either of our alignments.

[Balki Bartokomous]

This was a great thing that happened.

I don't really know what conclusions to draw yet. But this was definitely the best way to get to No Lynch.

Hopefully everyone can put in time over the next 24 hours to work and solve this, because anyone could be the Night Kill.

[bozotheclown]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

You assume everyone not voting for you are town?

[BunnyGo]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

If any scum were on your wagon they would have switched to mine in the end for the mislynch. I didn't think of PZ, though, I guess you're right one of them could be PZ who doesn't know either of our alignments.

If it was T v T, then scum could always move either way. They don't care.

[Jamiet99uk]

As much as I was townreading Kgray….

That could have been a S v S end to the day.

If it was T v T, scum would surely have jumped to ensure someone got lynched, thus ensuring their win.

If it was T v S, scum would jump to save their buddy.

If it's S v S, keeping a tie is the best outcome for scum in that scenario.

Thoughts?

[xorxes]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

If it was TvT one of the scum could have changed their vote and won.

[kgray]

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

If any scum were on your wagon they would have switched to mine in the end for the mislynch. I didn't think of PZ, though, I guess you're right one of them could be PZ who doesn't know either of our alignments.

If it was T v T, then scum could always move either way. They don't care.

I realize that. But I know I'm town, so I know that nonPZ scum knew I would be a mislynch.

[damo666]

no...no it wasn't. That was the scummiest possible end to the day.

Wait, how so?

Why didn't scum swap teams? Either:

1) It was S v S
or more likely
2) We had S v T and one of the town needs to change. But hard to know which on.

I guess the plus side, in case 2 it means one wagon was 3 scum 1 town and the other wagon was 4 town.

Not case 1

It could be TvT

[Fluminator]

Balki, Jamie and Bunny are town

Idiot

It could have been TvT with 2 scum on one and PZ the other.

Do you think scum would find it too risky to switch their vote and win the game out of it?

[Jamiet99uk]

Wait, how so?

Why didn't scum swap teams? Either:

1) It was S v S
or more likely
2) We had S v T and one of the town needs to change. But hard to know which on.

I guess the plus side, in case 2 it means one wagon was 3 scum 1 town and the other wagon was 4 town.

Not case 1

It could be TvT

But then surely a scum would have moved?

There's no incentive for scum to prolong the game in that situation.

[Fluminator]

lol, looking at the brightside, this was better than voting no lynch in the end.

no...no it wasn't. That was the scummiest possible end to the day.

You're crazy if you disagree.... hmmm

[Balki Bartokomous]

As much as I was townreading Kgray….

That could have been a S v S end to the day.

If it was T v T, scum would surely have jumped to ensure someone got lynched, thus ensuring their win.

If it was T v S, scum would jump to save their buddy.

If it's S v S, keeping a tie is the best outcome for scum in that scenario.

Thoughts?

That is incomplete. It's not that simple, and I think you can see some of the other possible scenarios. For example, if it was TvS, it is possible that there was no bussing, or no known bussing. It is also possible that scum was thinking hard about swapping, but it just felt too dangerous. But...this needs a lot of analysis. There is definitely info to be gleaned.

[BunnyGo]

As much as I was townreading Kgray….

That could have been a S v S end to the day.

If it was T v T, scum would surely have jumped to ensure someone got lynched, thus ensuring their win.

If it was T v S, scum would jump to save their buddy.

If it's S v S, keeping a tie is the best outcome for scum in that scenario.

Thoughts?

This ^

There's no way it was T v T. So our goal for tonight is figure out if it was S v S or S v T. In the S v T case, then ALL the scum were voting on the town (or could have jumped to win).