M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Foxcastle]

I do not see how Balki replays his M46 scum game word for word, and nobody thinks anything of it. He tells us that non-confrontationalism is a longstanding metric he uses, but if that's true, then he knew in M46 that it was NAI for me, and he still pushed it hard this game (and then conveniently dropped it after D3 when he had my vote record to harp on), and nobody sees a contradiction there. Will nobody fucking throw me a coin on this?

[BunnyGo]

If EMC gets lynched, I won't be ranting to the God thread about how bad the town is because I understand that one.

I think I'll stay on Rdrivera though.

1. Switched off Bob (scum) onto EMC eod 3. Did it in a sneaky way by voting someone else between the switch for a small time. No matter how much someone can smoothtalk it, it looks bad on paper.

2. One of the only players (others being Fox and EMC) to never try to engage with or interact with Bob. Scum partners usually try to avoid contact to avoid associative tells or awkward scum vs. scum interaction.

3. I'm always looking for towntells in people, and since day 1, he's had no thoughts that I see more likely coming from a clueless townie perspective. Call this one gut.

4. I've struggled following his thought patterns all game, and seeing a logical progression that town would have. (For example, saying that at least two scum probably bussed Bob, but we should lynch on the EMC wagon - even though there are only 2 buddies in the know) If he was town, I'd feel like he'd realize stuff like this before being pointed out.

5. He'll say stuff and go back on them when convenient for reasons that seem weak to me.

Bunny, can you comment on my case on Rdrivear?

Above I commented to kgray (and recently voted for Jamie) why i think rdr is town. I even said I’ll back him at lylo unless something changes. The crux of it is analyzing what he said when he did all those things.

[BunnyGo]

You are. Read better. I just don’t mind Fox. But I’m staying on you in hope people come back.

Enough vote manipulation. Cast a vote like you mean it.

I DO mean it! I’m on the #2 wagon. I want it to be #1. The #1 wagon is my 2nd choice. This is my vote. It won’t move unless rdr is #1 and fox #2.

Until Damo recently moved back to fox, kgray was tied. This only makes me worried in case Damo is saving his teammate again (if he’s the other scum and had tried hard to save Bob). Join me on kgray. Cast a vote like YOU mean it.

[Foxcastle]

Balki's Day 4 was frenetic telling people to rethink things. I assume because we almost lynched Xorxes.

Balki's Day 5 is "don't think too hard, just vote" (and now Xorxes is trying to force Rdr's and my hand to an early vote, too... Waiting to save yourself with a late vote is NAI.).

What a difference a day makes!

[xorxes]

I do not see how Balki replays his M46 scum game word for word, and nobody thinks anything of it. He tells us that non-confrontationalism is a longstanding metric he uses, but if that's true, then he knew in M46 that it was NAI for me, and he still pushed it hard this game (and then conveniently dropped it after D3 when he had my vote record to harp on), and nobody sees a contradiction there. Will nobody fucking throw me a coin on this?

I did agree with you about that. But do you think rivera and kgray are both town?

[Fluminator]

I do not see how Balki replays his M46 scum game word for word, and nobody thinks anything of it. He tells us that non-confrontationalism is a longstanding metric he uses, but if that's true, then he knew in M46 that it was NAI for me, and he still pushed it hard this game (and then conveniently dropped it after D3 when he had my vote record to harp on), and nobody sees a contradiction there. Will nobody fucking throw me a coin on this?

Meta cases are very easy to fake and cursory evidence is it was cherry picked. If you flip town I will know it was genuine which will definitely make me reread everything you said in a new light.

[brainbomb]

I got laid off any my store went out of business. I may miss this eod

[xorxes]

Balki's Day 4 was frenetic telling people to rethink things. I assume because we almost lynched Xorxes.

Balki's Day 5 is "don't think too hard, just vote" (and now Xorxes is trying to force Rdr's and my hand to an early vote, too... Waiting to save yourself with a late vote is NAI.).

What a difference a day makes!

"Early vote"? It's less than one hour to EOD.

[Foxcastle]

Oh, also, my survey on who was most scumread was going to be used as a jumping off point to sort out who was trying to push my lynch from behind. There was likely never going to be anything all that productive come out of it anyway, with so few scum and so many scumreads.

[Foxcastle]

I got laid off any my store went out of business. I may miss this eod

I'm sorry, BB

[rdrivera2005]

@rdrivera,

Please talk to us about your Fox read. Give us as much detail as possible. This is important.

Are you reading the thread? I already said I will vote Fox over kgray because his voting look worst.
And I find scum Fox will usually lay low but he might be playing differently. And if you are wrong I would really like to see what you will say.

##vote Fox

[rdrivera2005]

Isn’t it weird that Fox wouldn’t suspect rdrivera at this time? Isn’t it weird that rdrivera doesn’t suspect Fox at this time?

The Day 3 vote of EMC, followed by votes away from EMC on Day 3 is cray cray.

@Bunny and @Bozo, I’m just not sure why this doesn’t concern you more. I don’t know how to get through to you.

@Damo, I guess the same goes for you, but you seem to be coming from such an anti-Town place, I am having a hard time seeing you as possibly Town.

rdrivera has said he suspects Foxcastle, and he voted for Foxcastle D4, so I do find it suspicious he seems to be backing off on voting Foxcastle.

However, you did not answer my question, do you think both Foxcastle and rdrivera could be scum? xorxes pointed out that they would be unlikely to vote together like that D3 and D4 as scum teammates.

Yes, I absolutely think they can be teammates. Scum vote together sometimes, especially when it is so clearly in their win condition to do so, and it’s even more likely when there is a prevailing thought on a site that they wouldn’t do so.

I suspect we are teammates, will discover it today one way or another.

[xorxes]

Sorry bb.

How do we end the day if it's a close vote? We use the bot EOD?

[bozotheclown]

I do not see how Balki replays his M46 scum game word for word, and nobody thinks anything of it. He tells us that non-confrontationalism is a longstanding metric he uses, but if that's true, then he knew in M46 that it was NAI for me, and he still pushed it hard this game (and then conveniently dropped it after D3 when he had my vote record to harp on), and nobody sees a contradiction there. Will nobody fucking throw me a coin on this?

I did think your post where you referenced quotes from M46 was your strongest argument, and the amount of effort it took made me think you were town.

[rdrivera2005]

Maybe, but why D4 when avoiding lynching emc was not that critical?

If we hadn't lynched emc we wouldn't have known that D3 was town vs. scum. How does that not matter to you more?

I understand that point, but from a scum perspective, avoiding lynching a town is not important enough to make yourself look suspicious.

Good to see that someone are still thinking.
I understand kgray making this kind of argument, but Balki and Xorxes, it's really unbelievable.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Balki's Day 4 was frenetic telling people to rethink things. I assume because we almost lynched Xorxes.

Balki's Day 5 is "don't think too hard, just vote" (and now Xorxes is trying to force Rdr's and my hand to an early vote, too... Waiting to save yourself with a late vote is NAI.).

What a difference a day makes!

Right. Yesterday, I hated the wagons.

Today, it appears you may be lynched. So, I’m not “frenetic.” What point are you making?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I need to do some parenting. Putting my phone down. Hoping we lynch Fox.

[rdrivera2005]

Balki's Day 4 was frenetic telling people to rethink things. I assume because we almost lynched Xorxes.

Balki's Day 5 is "don't think too hard, just vote" (and now Xorxes is trying to force Rdr's and my hand to an early vote, too... Waiting to save yourself with a late vote is NAI.).

What a difference a day makes!

Xorxes is so obviously scum at this point that it hurts that no one but Fox can see it.

[BunnyGo]

I got laid off any my store went out of business. I may miss this eod

That sucks BB. Do what you need. We’ll hold at EOD.

[bozotheclown]

If we hadn't lynched emc we wouldn't have known that D3 was town vs. scum. How does that not matter to you more?

I understand that point, but from a scum perspective, avoiding lynching a town is not important enough to make yourself look suspicious.

Good to see that someone are still thinking.
I understand kgray making this kind of argument, but Balki and Xorxes, it's really unbelievable.

xorxes has said it is unlikely both of you would do it as scum but one of you could, Balki has said he could see you both doing it as scum.