M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[damo666]

@damo, what was your reasoning for those four?

the least townread

You don't think rdr belongs in this list?

Correct

[kgray]

the least townread

You don't think rdr belongs in this list?

Correct

You think that more people townread rdr than townread you...?

[Balki Bartokomous]

I have recently started to townread Balki and I have agreed with almost everything he's said since the last hour or so of Day 4. That concerns me somewhat. Only myself and the scumteam know that I am town. So if Balki "knows" that I am town and doesn't need to look into that anymore, that's obviously suspicious to me.

Yeah.

You're my damn spirit animal.

I know. I agree with the things that you say. Almost all of them. How come if you're so smart, you were on the wrong wagon on Day 3? What was it about EMC vs. Bob that caused you to vote EMC?

[damo666]

RIP Chaqa

Slightly odd kill.

If I was scum I would have considered Chaqa a possible mislynch.

Which is precisely why I said to him that he wouldn't be the NK.

So, what does this tell us? Inexperienced scum team maybe?

[Jamiet99uk]

If you're town, your reads shouldn't be inscribed onto stone tablets and erected in the town square with a historic planning protection ensuring they can never be changed.

I go back and read things and re-appraise, as everyone should.

Yes, I understand that. But surely there should be some reason for the change? What did you find reading that changed your mind?

His voting patterns.

[Jamiet99uk]

RIP Chaqa

Slightly odd kill.

If I was scum I would have considered Chaqa a possible mislynch.

Which is precisely why I said to him that he wouldn't be the NK.

So, what does this tell us? Inexperienced scum team maybe?

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

[damo666]

This is about where I am at the moment:

TOWN
Jamiet99uk
kgray
damo666
xorxes
bozotheclown
Fluminator
rdrivera2005
Foxcastle
BunnyGo
Balki Bartokomous
SCUM


I'm much less sure of my townread on Rdrivera than I was.

I'd like to see Balki vs Fox today, wagon wise, as I fear their exchanges could all be theatre.

Surely you have kgray and Bunny the wrong way round.

[kgray]

I have recently started to townread Balki and I have agreed with almost everything he's said since the last hour or so of Day 4. That concerns me somewhat. Only myself and the scumteam know that I am town. So if Balki "knows" that I am town and doesn't need to look into that anymore, that's obviously suspicious to me.

Yeah.

You're my damn spirit animal.

I know. I agree with the things that you say. Almost all of them. How come if you're so smart, you were on the wrong wagon on Day 3? What was it about EMC vs. Bob that caused you to vote EMC?

Okay but can you not say stuff like that? Fox is gonna go nuts.

I don't know exactly what it was about emc that made me think he was scum over bob. I thought that because he did contribute sometimes and then dropped off, that maybe it was intentional. But it wasn't a very strong preference, and I think I just went with my "older" scumread in the end.

We didn't have a lot to go on either way, but now that we do know one scum teammate we have a lot more information, so I have a lot more basis for my reads. I think this is something people are overlooking, and I don't know if that's intentional or not.

[kgray]

If you're town, your reads shouldn't be inscribed onto stone tablets and erected in the town square with a historic planning protection ensuring they can never be changed.

I go back and read things and re-appraise, as everyone should.

Yes, I understand that. But surely there should be some reason for the change? What did you find reading that changed your mind?

His voting patterns.

His D3 voting patterns that you re-analyzed later? Or his D3 voting patterns combined with his D4 voting patterns?

[damo666]

You don't think rdr belongs in this list?

Correct

You think that more people townread rdr than townread you...?

Yes

[damo666]

RIP Chaqa

Slightly odd kill.

If I was scum I would have considered Chaqa a possible mislynch.

Which is precisely why I said to him that he wouldn't be the NK.

So, what does this tell us? Inexperienced scum team maybe?

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

Good point. An experienced scum team then lol?

[rdrivera2005]

RIP Chaqa

Slightly odd kill.

If I was scum I would have considered Chaqa a possible mislynch.

Which is precisely why I said to him that he wouldn't be the NK.

So, what does this tell us? Inexperienced scum team maybe?

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

Ok what you base this affirmation? I don't see this.

[rdrivera2005]

Correct

You think that more people townread rdr than townread you...?

Yes

Really? I don't see this. Besides Bozo I don't see anyone pushing your lynch while I have a pretty extensive fan club of my lynch

[rdrivera2005]

Which is precisely why I said to him that he wouldn't be the NK.

So, what does this tell us? Inexperienced scum team maybe?

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

Good point. An experienced scum team then lol?

Why is this a good point?

[damo666]

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

Good point. An experienced scum team then lol?

Why is this a good point?

Because I think what he says has a reasonably high likelihood of being true.

[Jamiet99uk]

Which is precisely why I said to him that he wouldn't be the NK.

So, what does this tell us? Inexperienced scum team maybe?

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

Ok what you base this affirmation? I don't see this.

Everyone on the D1 Worcej wagon is still alive.

D4, 8 people voted for EMC but Chaqa, in a last minute bout of petulence, voted for himself, and that's the person they NK'ed.

[rdrivera2005]

No, it's as I said before. They are trying to give as little VCA information as possible. That's what I think anyway.

Ok what you base this affirmation? I don't see this.

Everyone on the D1 Worcej wagon is still alive.

D4, 8 people voted for EMC but Chaqa, in a last minute bout of petulence, voted for himself, and that's the person they NK'ed.

The Worcej wagons is an interesting thing, but unless there is two scum on him I don't see any reason to avoid killing people on that wagon. And I don't remember to ever saw a scumteam deciding the NK based on avoiding VCA. Do you remember?

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok what you base this affirmation? I don't see this.

Everyone on the D1 Worcej wagon is still alive.

D4, 8 people voted for EMC but Chaqa, in a last minute bout of petulence, voted for himself, and that's the person they NK'ed.

The Worcej wagons is an interesting thing, but unless there is two scum on him I don't see any reason to avoid killing people on that wagon. And I don't remember to ever saw a scumteam deciding the NK based on avoiding VCA. Do you remember?

Tell me what you think they are doing, then?

[rdrivera2005]

Everyone on the D1 Worcej wagon is still alive.

D4, 8 people voted for EMC but Chaqa, in a last minute bout of petulence, voted for himself, and that's the person they NK'ed.

The Worcej wagons is an interesting thing, but unless there is two scum on him I don't see any reason to avoid killing people on that wagon. And I don't remember to ever saw a scumteam deciding the NK based on avoiding VCA. Do you remember?

Tell me what you think they are doing, then?

I think they are either trying to find the last PR or killing people that vote on them. As I didn't really see anything that indicates Chaqa was crumbing Watcher the second option seems likely.

[BunnyGo]

RIP Chaqa.

My reads have been pretty damn good in this game after Day 1, I have to say.

That gives us some more info on Day 3. And Day 1.

##vote Fox

This is a very weird Balki post. So far this game his posts have been in the category of:

1) State good (but obvious) advice and questions for town
2) Berate town for not listening enough
3) Voting Fox for some reason.

What is this post? "I, Balki, happen to know that what I've said is correct."