M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Fluminator]

Don't you get town tickled when people scumread you? lol

You might have been right on Chaqa, but I think he was intentionally playing scummy for reasons. I guess we'll find out postgame.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Don't you get town tickled when people scumread you? lol

You might have been right on Chaqa, but I think he was intentionally playing scummy for reasons. I guess we'll find out postgame.

I do. And that’s the main reason I’ve been Town reading Jamiet all game. That, and his general obnoxiousness.

But his table that assumed Xorx was Town was suspicious. I’m having a hard time seeing that mistake come from a town mindset. Especially the mindset of a Townie with a healthy Xorxes suspicion.

And if he now thinks Xorx is Town, it is rather puzzling that he still thinks I am scum. If someone thinks Xorx is Town, they cannot possibly not be deeply suspicious of the folks who voted EMC D3, and then tried to lynch Xorx on Day 4. And those are the folks for whom I have been ringing large alarm bells for quite some time.

And then that person (The one who Town-reads Xorx) would see that I voted to kill scum Day 3, and have been vocally trying to push people in the CORRECT, PRO-TOWN direction since the Day 3 flip: to focus on the D3 EMC voters.

So Jamiet would have to be utterly lost in an endless field of dandelions to have me as his top scumread, while conveniently shifting his Xorxes read, right at the moment when it would be the only way to explain his supposed “typo.”

And...I keep hearing about this simple rubric that everyone says: when Jamiet is a dick, he’s town. Maybe Jamiet roller scum, and decided: cool! I’ll just be a dick!

Jamiet has been purposefully poking me all game, with sarcasm and “oh sure you were!”s. And I’ve noticed a bit of delight oozing from his ears on the several occasions when he has gotten a rise out of me. That’s less what I would expect from someone who is sincerely trying to solves the game, but just happens to be a dick. That is more what I expect to see from someone who is purposefully trying to be said Dick.

So all that is to say: Jamiet has moved very much into my lynchpool and onto my suspect list.

But Foxy first.

[Foxcastle]

@Balki did you ever ISO me like you said you were going to?

@Balki did you ever ISO me like you said you were going to?

No. I have ISOed you, but I don’t think I have since I said I was going to.

This is just gross.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Oh my God. Balki said he was going to ISO someone.

And then he...didn’t ISO them!!!

Scum conspiracy!!!

[Foxcastle]

Oh my God. Balki said he was going to ISO someone.

And then he...didn’t ISO them!!!

Scum conspiracy!!!

Honestly, it wasn't even about your response. It was about Kgray. Nice attempt to deflect attention from her, though.

[Foxcastle]

A little drunk right now, so I'll drop off for dinner soon, but Balki, if you're town this game, we should just never play together again.

[Balki Bartokomous]

A little drunk right now, so I'll drop off for dinner soon, but Balki, if you're town this game, we should just never play together again.

I think you’d like me better if you were on my team. Let’s do that some time.

[Foxcastle]

A little drunk right now, so I'll drop off for dinner soon, but Balki, if you're town this game, we should just never play together again.

I think you’d like me better if you were on my team. Let’s do that some time.

Evidence says otherwise.

[Foxcastle]

A little drunk right now, so I'll drop off for dinner soon, but Balki, if you're town this game, we should just never play together again.

I think you’d like me better if you were on my team. Let’s do that some time.

I don't dislike you. I think I largely understand why our mafia personas clash so hard.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Jamiet, you don’t need to put words in my mouth. I have never saved Xorxes.

If Xorxes is Town, and EMC is Town, and Chaqa is Town, and Bob is Scum,

what have I been up to for the past two days? Not just my votes, though those too. What am I trying to do?

I’m your #1 scumread?

Why?

You have spent a lot of the time trying to lynch Foxcastle, making very little headway despite your apparently limitless intellect, then only joining wagons likely to get somewhere when I have nudged you.

Why is that?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Jamiet, you don’t need to put words in my mouth. I have never saved Xorxes.

If Xorxes is Town, and EMC is Town, and Chaqa is Town, and Bob is Scum,

what have I been up to for the past two days? Not just my votes, though those too. What am I trying to do?

I’m your #1 scumread?

Why?

You have spent a lot of the time trying to lynch Foxcastle, making very little headway despite your apparently limitless intellect, then only joining wagons likely to get somewhere when I have nudged you.

Why is that?

I have been trying to lynch Foxcastle because I think he’s scum. I’ve explained why I think that so I won’t repeat it here.

I haven’t been able to get him lynched because I am not as smart as the geniuses on my team who have wisely focused on lynching people who voted to lynch Town on day 3 instead of the people who voted (7-6) to lynch scum.

And of course you are correct. I only vote when you nudge me and because you nudge me. I place just the appropriate amount of credence in the things that you say based on my judgment of your wisdom.

[Jamiet99uk]

And if he now thinks Xorx is Town, it is rather puzzling that he still thinks I am scum. If someone thinks Xorx is Town, they cannot possibly not be deeply suspicious of the folks who voted EMC D3, and then tried to lynch Xorx on Day 4. And those are the folks for whom I have been ringing large alarm bells for quite some time.

Now, here's a point we can talk about.

See, one of those people is Rdrivera. I specifically said in the summary I wrote for you that his vote moves (along with Bunny's) on D3 were very suspect - and indeed they are especially so now that we know Bob's alignment.

I will re-appraise him as I said I would. If my suspicions are true, Balki, you will no longer be my top scumread...

[Jamiet99uk]

Just one more thing before I stop arguing with Balki for a while.

If I'm a dick to you, and it upsets you, I'm sorry. There is just something about the way you communicate that comes across to me as very smug, very superior, very looking-down-your-nose at everybody else. It irritates the hell out of me. I don't like your attitude irrespective of your alignment and you probably don't like mine. I guess that's why we clash and that's why I am a dick towards you.

[rdrivera2005]

@rivera, what do you think of the Jamie "slip"?

Considering that Xorxes is the only alive player that have votes at EOD (which is weird on it's own) I don't know if this is a scumslip or a typo. I still don't think lynching Jamiet is our best option for today But if Jamiet is scum then Xorxes is town, obviously.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Just one more thing before I stop arguing with Balki for a while.

If I'm a dick to you, and it upsets you, I'm sorry. There is just something about the way you communicate that comes across to me as very smug, very superior, very looking-down-your-nose at everybody else. It irritates the hell out of me. I don't like your attitude irrespective of your alignment and you probably don't like mine. I guess that's why we clash and that's why I am a dick towards you.

That's fair. I sort of assume a bit of a persona when I play this game, especially here on this site, for some reason. It is a sort of self-indulgent, cocky, cowboy sort of persona. I don't even know why I do it. I used to write on a blog and I used that same persona (don't ask me why), and for some reason I slip into that particularly when I play mafia here. Your reaction is understandable. I should tone it down.

[kgray]

@Balki did you ever ISO me like you said you were going to?

@Balki did you ever ISO me like you said you were going to?

No. I have ISOed you, but I don’t think I have since I said I was going to.

This is just gross.

Really Fox? You don't think it's relevant if Balki isn't looking into my alignment? The post where he said he needed to ISO me is the last thing he's mentioned about his read on me, and yet he's trying very hard to get someone on the D3 emc wagon lynched. I'd like to know why he has seemed to shrug off whatever suspicion he had of me, and why I'm not in his lynchpool.

I have recently started to townread Balki and I have agreed with almost everything he's said since the last hour or so of Day 4. That concerns me somewhat. Only myself and the scumteam know that I am town. So if Balki "knows" that I am town and doesn't need to look into that anymore, that's obviously suspicious to me.

[kgray]

And if he now thinks Xorx is Town, it is rather puzzling that he still thinks I am scum. If someone thinks Xorx is Town, they cannot possibly not be deeply suspicious of the folks who voted EMC D3, and then tried to lynch Xorx on Day 4. And those are the folks for whom I have been ringing large alarm bells for quite some time.

Now, here's a point we can talk about.

See, one of those people is Rdrivera. I specifically said in the summary I wrote for you that his vote moves (along with Bunny's) on D3 were very suspect - and indeed they are especially so now that we know Bob's alignment.

I will re-appraise him as I said I would. If my suspicions are true, Balki, you will no longer be my top scumread...

Day 4 you had rdr as a townread, though, and obviously the D3 votes had already happened. So if not D3 votes, what caused you to change your read of rdr?

[Jamiet99uk]

And if he now thinks Xorx is Town, it is rather puzzling that he still thinks I am scum. If someone thinks Xorx is Town, they cannot possibly not be deeply suspicious of the folks who voted EMC D3, and then tried to lynch Xorx on Day 4. And those are the folks for whom I have been ringing large alarm bells for quite some time.

Now, here's a point we can talk about.

See, one of those people is Rdrivera. I specifically said in the summary I wrote for you that his vote moves (along with Bunny's) on D3 were very suspect - and indeed they are especially so now that we know Bob's alignment.

I will re-appraise him as I said I would. If my suspicions are true, Balki, you will no longer be my top scumread...

Day 4 you had rdr as a townread, though, and obviously the D3 votes had already happened. So if not D3 votes, what caused you to change your read of rdr?

Reading.

[Jamiet99uk]

If you're town, your reads shouldn't be inscribed onto stone tablets and erected in the town square with a historic planning protection ensuring they can never be changed.

I go back and read things and re-appraise, as everyone should.

[kgray]

If you're town, your reads shouldn't be inscribed onto stone tablets and erected in the town square with a historic planning protection ensuring they can never be changed.

I go back and read things and re-appraise, as everyone should.

Yes, I understand that. But surely there should be some reason for the change? What did you find reading that changed your mind?