M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

[Jamiet99uk]

Sigh.

Do you want me to check it and post again?

[Jamiet99uk]

Here:

Balki Bartokomous:
D1 Worcej (Town, 2nd) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 Bob (Scum, 1st) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

bozotheclown:
D1 Temasek (Town, 1st) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 Bob (Scum, 1st) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

BunnyGo:
D1 Worcej (Town, 2nd) / D2 Bo_Sox (Town, 3rd) / D3 Bob (Scum, 1st) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

damo666:
D1 Temasek (Town, 1st) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 EMC (Town, 2nd) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

Fluminator:
D1 Worcej (Town, 2nd) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 Bob (Scum, 1st) / EMC (Town, 1st)

Foxcastle:
D1 Worcej (Town, 2nd) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 Bob (Scum, 1st) / D4 Xorxes (Unknown, 2nd)

Jamiet99uk:
D1 Temasek (Town, 1st) / D2 Bo_Sox (Town, 3rd) / D3 EMC (Town, 2nd) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

kgray:
D1 Temasek (Town, 1st) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 EMC (Town, 2nd) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

rdrivera2005:
D1 Temasek (Town, 1st) / D2 Pjandy (Town, 2nd) / D3 EMC (Town, 2nd) / D4 Xorxes (Unknown, 2nd)

xorxes:
D1 Chaqa (Town, 5th) / D2 Vecna (Town, 1st) / D3 Bob (Scum, 1st) / D4 EMC (Town, 1st)

I suppose a third observation is that Xorxes is the only person still alive who was a viable EoD wagon at some point?

[Fluminator]

That's fine.

Town
Jamiet99uk
damo666
bozotheclown
rdrivera2005
kgray
xorxes
BunnyGo
Foxcastle
Chaqa
Balki Bartokomous
Fluminator
e.m.c^42
Scum

Could you update this list?

[Jamiet99uk]

For sure.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Jamiet, what makes you townread Xorxes now? What do you think of the people voting him yesterday? Do you view their cases as sincere, or do you think they are most likely scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

This is about where I am at the moment:

TOWN
Jamiet99uk
kgray
damo666
xorxes
bozotheclown
Fluminator
rdrivera2005
Foxcastle
BunnyGo
Balki Bartokomous
SCUM


I'm much less sure of my townread on Rdrivera than I was.

I'd like to see Balki vs Fox today, wagon wise, as I fear their exchanges could all be theatre.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Jamiet, what makes you townread Xorxes now? What do you think of the people voting him yesterday? Do you view their cases as sincere, or do you think they are most likely scum?

He is a moderate townread because he seems very sharp and solving yesterday, last night, and today so far. Asking questions, making lots of observations. Town Xorxes may be coming alive. I hope so.

EMC was town, we know that. I tend to scumread Foxcastle . Rdrivera, I'm having trouble with. On D3 I did a full ISO of him that seemed town. I feel like I need to review that, I dunno.

I'm confused to be honest.

[Balki Bartokomous]

This is about where I am at the moment:

TOWN
Jamiet99uk
kgray
damo666
xorxes
bozotheclown
Fluminator
rdrivera2005
Foxcastle
BunnyGo
Balki Bartokomous
SCUM


I'm much less sure of my townread on Rdrivera than I was.

I'd like to see Balki vs Fox today, wagon wise, as I fear their exchanges could all be theatre.

How could that be?

If you think Xorx is Town, how could you think I am scum?

Have you looked to see who anyone has voted for ever?

[Foxcastle]

I'd like to see Balki vs Fox today, wagon wise, as I fear their exchanges could all be theatre.

Just the thought of doing this as theatre sounds exhausting. I'm doing it because I'm town and there's no way I see that he's not scum.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Put me down for Fox, RdRivera, Jamiet.

[Jamiet99uk]

If you think Xorx is Town, how could you think I am scum?

Have you looked to see who anyone has voted for ever?

I don't understand your point.

I'm rather stupid, you see, and I had quite an intense but productive PhD supervision session this afternoon, after which I did a couple of hours of quite intense research, which has left me feeling rather mentally tired, as much as I do want to engage with the game.

Because I have a very low IQ you'll have to help me out.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'd like to see Balki vs Fox today, wagon wise, as I fear their exchanges could all be theatre.

Just the thought of doing this as theatre sounds exhausting. I'm doing it because I'm town and there's no way I see that he's not scum.

Balki thinks that it if Xorxes is town, it is impossible for Balki to be scum.

Do you know why Balki says this? Do you agree?

[Balki Bartokomous]

If you think Xorx is Town, how could you think I am scum?

Have you looked to see who anyone has voted for ever?

I don't understand your point.

I'm rather stupid, you see, and I had quite an intense but productive PhD supervision session this afternoon, after which I did a couple of hours of quite intense research, which has left me feeling rather mentally tired, as much as I do want to engage with the game.

Because I have a very low IQ you'll have to help me out.

Nah, I’m not going to explain it to you. I will just observe you discuss your reads and draw my own conclusions about whether they are sincere.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Also, @Jamiet, for completeness sake, can you give us the reasons I am your top scum read? Try to be as complete as possible. This is important.

[kgray]

@Jamie, Day 4 you posted this:

SCUM:: EMC > CHAQA > FOXCASTLE > KGRAY > RDRIVERA > DAMO > JAMIE ::LEAST SCUM

What changed since then that caused me to become your highest townread, specifically over rdr (who is now your 4th-highest scumread)?

[Foxcastle]

I'd like to see Balki vs Fox today, wagon wise, as I fear their exchanges could all be theatre.

Just the thought of doing this as theatre sounds exhausting. I'm doing it because I'm town and there's no way I see that he's not scum.

Balki thinks that it if Xorxes is town, it is impossible for Balki to be scum.

Do you know why Balki says this? Do you agree?

I do not know why he says that, no. I do not agree with it, I think they're both scum, obviously.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Jamie, Day 4 you posted this:

SCUM:: EMC > CHAQA > FOXCASTLE > KGRAY > RDRIVERA > DAMO > JAMIE ::LEAST SCUM

What changed since then that caused me to become your highest townread, specifically over rdr (who is now your 4th-highest scumread)?

I wouldn't describe him as my fourth highest scumread though. There aren't four scum left. That's why a binary, linear line of "most scum" to "most town" isn't actually all that illustrative at this stage. I townread you and Damo about the same, for example, but that list format forces me to arbitrarily put one of you before the other. Then someone will say "oh why do you townread kgray more than damo??????" and there's no answer because there just isn't.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, @Jamiet, for completeness sake, can you give us the reasons I am your top scum read? Try to be as complete as possible. This is important.

Sorry, I am now going to take at least an hour to do a comparative analysis of your entire voting history, against that of Xorxes, because you have demanded that I do so. First I'm going to get food and a couple of beers, so it might take more like two hours. Bear with me.

[kgray]

@Jamie, Day 4 you posted this:

SCUM:: EMC > CHAQA > FOXCASTLE > KGRAY > RDRIVERA > DAMO > JAMIE ::LEAST SCUM

What changed since then that caused me to become your highest townread, specifically over rdr (who is now your 4th-highest scumread)?

I wouldn't describe him as my fourth highest scumread though. There aren't four scum left. That's why a binary, linear line of "most scum" to "most town" isn't actually all that illustrative at this stage. I townread you and Damo about the same, for example, but that list format forces me to arbitrarily put one of you before the other. Then someone will say "oh why do you townread kgray more than damo??????" and there's no answer because there just isn't.

Okay, I understand that. Can you explain why you think rdr is so much scummier now than you did Day 4?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Also, @Jamiet, for completeness sake, can you give us the reasons I am your top scum read? Try to be as complete as possible. This is important.

Sorry, I am now going to take at least an hour to do a comparative analysis of your entire voting history, against that of Xorxes, because you have demanded that I do so. First I'm going to get food and a couple of beers, so it might take more like two hours. Bear with me.

Great. Thank you.

Please also consider when Xorx has been a viable wagon and who are the folks who have been pushing that wagon (or pushing against it).